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To think my friend stopped talking to me because I received a settlement from work?

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 10:36

I recently went through a tough time at my last workplace and ended up receiving a settlement after being treated horribly. It was a stressful experience, but the outcome helped me feel some sense of justice. However, ever since I told my friend about it, she’s been distant and barely spoken to me.

We used to be really close, but now she’s completely withdrawn, and I can’t help but wonder if it’s related to the settlement. There’s been no argument or falling out, but it feels like my news changed something. I’ve tried reaching out, but she’s just cold or makes excuses not to talk. I thought she’d be happy for me, but instead, it feels like she’s cut me off.

AIBU to think she’s stopped talking to me because of the settlement? Or am I overthinking this and it’s just a coincidence?

OP posts:
CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:13

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2024 18:47

You have hit her in the self esteem.

She had herself in the role of "big sister", so the grown up compared to you as the "little sister" so the kid. She obviously places great importance on this, hence her trying to undermine your efforts to increase your settlement with her not so subtle attempts to imply you are not as capable as her, the grown up, as you are "only a kid".

But you won. You proved her wrong and you did a big girl grown up thing all on your own and that takes you out of your baby sister box. And she doesnt like it. She first met you when you were 16 and I suspect in her head you have always been 16, and now she has to acknowledge that you're not a kid anymore.

Its rather like the mother who still tries to boss her adult kids around as a self styled Matriarch because they cant face not being needed in that role anymore.

ETA.....does she make a big deal about helping people or doing things for people? Sounds like she needs to be needed and making sure everyone knows how much she does for others, and you have shown that you dont need her so she doesnt need you anymore as you dont validate her existence.

Edited

I see what you’re saying. It does feel like her need to be the supportive ‘big sister’ has shifted with my recent achievements. I’ve noticed her trying to undermine my efforts, which makes me wonder if it’s less about the money and more about her own insecurities and how she perceives our roles.

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:16

Tiredofallthis101 · 22/09/2024 18:47

I think if it has been a d3cent friendship you owe it to her to ask her out to celebrate the settlement. You could just say sorry you've not been able to catch up for a while but you feel you owe big sister a meal for all her support. If she blows you off then fine, you tried your best. Maybe she feels like you don't value the relationship as much as she did given you didn't bother to tell her your news (in her eyes). I'd decide which is more important, your pride or yhe relationship. If your pride is more important and/or she's annoyed you too much don't make any further effort. She might come back eventually.

I appreciate your perspective, but I’ve mentioned multiple times that she’s been cold and makes excuses not to talk when I’ve reached out. In the early part of this thread, I also mentioned that while she was aware of what I was going through, she wasn’t particularly supportive during the process, especially regarding the settlement. She often scaremongered me and suggested I should just take £10k, while I ultimately fought for much more. So, I don’t feel I 'owe' her anything. It's definitely not about my pride; it’s more about how she has reacted since I shared my news.

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Calliopespa · 22/09/2024 19:17

Jumpingthruhoops · 22/09/2024 18:57

Respectfully, that's bullshit. I wouldn't have someone go cold on me without asking them what the issue is. Not accuse them of it being because of the money, just ask them generally if I had upset them in any way and see what they say.

My guess is it absolutely IS the issue... but of course to admit that would be admitting she's a jealous cow, which she's not going to do, so has opted for the silent treatment instead.

Yes I agree that jealousy isn’t a lazy explanation. Lots of MNers tend to say that; but just because something is a commonly correct explanation doesn’t make it lazy to conclude it. The world is drenched in jealousy.

silentassassin · 22/09/2024 19:18

Yes I think you're getting to the root of it now!

I dont think she's a good friend. We all change and grow as people and thats really healthy and normal. As long as we are growing in a good way thats beneficial for us its really not for anyone else to stifle that out of a need to keep us in our perceived "box" because it makes them feel more comfortable that way.

You see this all the time with issues like weight loss/fitness- one friend loses weight and at first people are verbally supportive but then they dont like it when that person changes their lifestyle. If she can only be friends with you as long as she is the "big sister" then its not a very equal friendship and neither is it fair to you because that means you can never grow and develop either.

I think looking back, you'll realise you are better off without her in the long run.

Tiredofallthis101 · 22/09/2024 19:32

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:16

I appreciate your perspective, but I’ve mentioned multiple times that she’s been cold and makes excuses not to talk when I’ve reached out. In the early part of this thread, I also mentioned that while she was aware of what I was going through, she wasn’t particularly supportive during the process, especially regarding the settlement. She often scaremongered me and suggested I should just take £10k, while I ultimately fought for much more. So, I don’t feel I 'owe' her anything. It's definitely not about my pride; it’s more about how she has reacted since I shared my news.

Fair enough, if it is more that you are upset with her than that you don't want to be rejected then just let thw friendship go. Life's too short to spend it chasing after people you aren't that fond of anyway.

Mary46 · 22/09/2024 19:56

Jealousy not nice. Hard know op. I would phase her out. My neighbour was saying parents went sour after exam results. You could def believe it!

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 22/09/2024 20:16

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:09

I mentioned in my post that whenever I’ve tried reaching out, she’s been cold and makes excuses not to talk. It’s been a few months of this now, which makes me hesitant to invite her out.

Hmm ok. There was nothing in your earlier posts to suggest this has been going on for months. And "reaching out " could have just been hi how's it going for all anyone here knew, hence the many suggestions of actual ways of trying one more time. If you think there's a friendship worth saving. But going from your updates I don't think you really think there is, and I don't think you were really posting for advice, and that's fine. I'm sorry you've lost a friend and I wish you well.

PixieLaLar · 22/09/2024 22:41

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:07

Actually, I know she’s been bullied in the workplace before, so maybe that’s playing a role in how she’s reacting now.

Edited

Oh that’s interesting and might explain her reaction. Maybe she’s feeling resentful towards you because you managed to stand up for yourself when she didn’t….Whatever the reason though you have done nothing wrong OP.

Fastback · 23/09/2024 14:12

It’s clearly simple jealousy. She hates that you’d got a pay out from an employer for their shit treatment of you. You have money now. She does t.

Of course it’s not her being morally affronted by it 😂

browneyes77 · 23/09/2024 18:28

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:09

I mentioned in my post that whenever I’ve tried reaching out, she’s been cold and makes excuses not to talk. It’s been a few months of this now, which makes me hesitant to invite her out.

When you say you’ve tried reaching out, what have you said to her when you have?

Have you asked her outright what the problem is?

Or has it just been more of a “Hi, how are you. Everything ok?” type thing.

CheekyMoose · 23/09/2024 19:18

browneyes77 · 23/09/2024 18:28

When you say you’ve tried reaching out, what have you said to her when you have?

Have you asked her outright what the problem is?

Or has it just been more of a “Hi, how are you. Everything ok?” type thing.

Yeah my reaching out been more than just casual check-ins. I’ve tried to express my concerns and ask how she’s doing, but the responses have often been cold or evasive. I haven’t specifically asked her outright about the problem yet, but it feels like there’s a barrier whenever I try to contact her.

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90yomakeuproom · 23/09/2024 19:20

You've disagreed, been snappy and rude in most of your responses. So maybe if you've spoken to her like that it may have something to do with it, not your money.

browneyes77 · 23/09/2024 19:29

CheekyMoose · 23/09/2024 19:18

Yeah my reaching out been more than just casual check-ins. I’ve tried to express my concerns and ask how she’s doing, but the responses have often been cold or evasive. I haven’t specifically asked her outright about the problem yet, but it feels like there’s a barrier whenever I try to contact her.

Hmm. See I think if I felt the friendship was at the point where I was about to give up, I’d probably just ask outright what her problem is.

You said this has gone on for a fair few months the now. You’ve tried the polite way to find out what her issue is.

Maybe now it’s time to be more blunt and just say something like “I’ve noticed a massive shift in your behaviour towards me over the last few months. If I’ve done something to upset you, just be honest and tell me what the problem is. Because honestly I’m getting the impression you don’t want this friendship anymore. That’s your right, but at least have the decency to tell me what it is I’ve done to upset you”.

If she doesn’t respond or still doesn’t want to tell you what the problem is, then I’d pull back and not continue trying to reach out. At that point leave her to it and assume she isn’t the friend you thought she was.

thepariscrimefiles · 23/09/2024 19:40

90yomakeuproom · 23/09/2024 19:20

You've disagreed, been snappy and rude in most of your responses. So maybe if you've spoken to her like that it may have something to do with it, not your money.

The OP has only challenged you because you because you posted a snarky comment that a setttlement didn't mean that she was innocent.

You are one of those posters that is rude to the OP but gets annoyed when the OP bites back.

PixieLaLar · 23/09/2024 20:14

thepariscrimefiles · 23/09/2024 19:40

The OP has only challenged you because you because you posted a snarky comment that a setttlement didn't mean that she was innocent.

You are one of those posters that is rude to the OP but gets annoyed when the OP bites back.

This!

RecallRecall · 23/09/2024 20:25

It's true though that a settlement doesn't necessarily reflect the true situation. What it could mean ( and this sounds likely from what the Op has said) is that the Op knows how to fight hard.
The friend thought the situation warranted £10k. Maybe it's not jealously of the amount but the feeling that it's excessive.
I had a similar thing with a friend that was very articulate and got herself a massive redundancy. You could say good for her but the reality was she was off work more than she was there and it felt wrong they were paying anything to get rid of her. I didn't like her ethics and our friendship faded.

Crumpleton · 23/09/2024 20:35

90yomakeuproom · 23/09/2024 19:20

You've disagreed, been snappy and rude in most of your responses. So maybe if you've spoken to her like that it may have something to do with it, not your money.

I can't see that the OP has been any of the above...we've asked questions and the OP has replied with valid answers.

CheekyMoose · 23/09/2024 20:37

RecallRecall · 23/09/2024 20:25

It's true though that a settlement doesn't necessarily reflect the true situation. What it could mean ( and this sounds likely from what the Op has said) is that the Op knows how to fight hard.
The friend thought the situation warranted £10k. Maybe it's not jealously of the amount but the feeling that it's excessive.
I had a similar thing with a friend that was very articulate and got herself a massive redundancy. You could say good for her but the reality was she was off work more than she was there and it felt wrong they were paying anything to get rid of her. I didn't like her ethics and our friendship faded.

I ask that you don’t project your experiences onto my situation. My friend suggested £10k for reasons unrelated to the validity of the situation. If you’ve been through this, you’d know that employers often lowball initial offers. Once lawyers and potential tribunals are involved, the dynamics change significantly. Fighting hard for what you deserve doesn’t diminish anyone’s worth.

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RecallRecall · 23/09/2024 20:51

CheekyMoose · 23/09/2024 20:37

I ask that you don’t project your experiences onto my situation. My friend suggested £10k for reasons unrelated to the validity of the situation. If you’ve been through this, you’d know that employers often lowball initial offers. Once lawyers and potential tribunals are involved, the dynamics change significantly. Fighting hard for what you deserve doesn’t diminish anyone’s worth.

You still don't know why your friend isn't talking to you though do you. So any experience we have might be helpful.

Why is her suggestion of £10k not valid ( and why did you mention it if it wasn't').
What if they had offered you £80k. Would you have taken that?

Foy19 · 23/09/2024 20:56

90yomakeuproom · 23/09/2024 19:20

You've disagreed, been snappy and rude in most of your responses. So maybe if you've spoken to her like that it may have something to do with it, not your money.

My thoughts too, commented further up about this.

PixieLaLar · 23/09/2024 22:01

Good on you OP!

I think it’s quite clear your ‘friend’ and random strangers on here are jealous of your payout, assertiveness and confidence not to back down. You only have to read some of the silly comments on this thread to see that.

Ignore them OP, most likely projecting their own issues here.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 23/09/2024 22:09

I don't know what is going on, but it could easily be envy. When my dad died suddenly and horribly when I was in my thirties, my manager who I'd always been on very good terms with, was kind and arranged time off for me. Then when I mentioned some months later that the estate was finally sorted and I had paid off my mortgage, she was kind of furious and never treated me in a friendly way again. She had a good income, partner and children; I was fortunate to be mortgage-free but was single and with almost no family, so I hadn't expected her to be envious.

Dragonfly97 · 23/09/2024 22:14

greencheetah · 22/09/2024 12:13

Honestly, she’s not a real friend if she’s behaving like this.

When my arthritis got so bad that I qualified for a Blue Badge, a colleague stopped talking to me. Utterly bizarre.

My Mum died as a result of medical negligence. We got compensation, and a "friend" dropped me when she found out how much money I got. It's opened my eyes to how jealousy affects people. I told a mutual friend about it, and she said "Why would she be jealous of YOU?!" As if I couldn't possibly have anything that would make her jealous. As I've got older I've got less patience for so-called friends who pretend to care about me.

CocktailsAtNoon · 24/09/2024 07:06

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 23/09/2024 22:09

I don't know what is going on, but it could easily be envy. When my dad died suddenly and horribly when I was in my thirties, my manager who I'd always been on very good terms with, was kind and arranged time off for me. Then when I mentioned some months later that the estate was finally sorted and I had paid off my mortgage, she was kind of furious and never treated me in a friendly way again. She had a good income, partner and children; I was fortunate to be mortgage-free but was single and with almost no family, so I hadn't expected her to be envious.

Edited

This reminded me of the time my FIL died. It was a very sad and protracted death and we were very involved in his last month as he had taken ill while staying with us. It was just an awful situation and a very painful time.

When he finally passed I of course said to one of my closest friends 'FIL died last night' and he immediate response - immediate was she snapped 'So you'll inherit then'. I was so taken aback. I spoke about it here at the time actually because she dropped me like a stone. She is godmother to my 2 Dcs for crying out loud. She refused to speak to me. refused to acknowledge my messages. We belong to the same sporting club and she would turn her face away from my direction when I was around.

That was 10 years ago and she has never spoken to me since.

Twinklefloss · 24/09/2024 07:42

Yet again I’m astounded by how much people share about money. Why on earth would a PP share how much was received in a medical negligence compensation case! I suppose it had the useful effect of flushing out jealous “friends”.

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