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To think my friend stopped talking to me because I received a settlement from work?

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 10:36

I recently went through a tough time at my last workplace and ended up receiving a settlement after being treated horribly. It was a stressful experience, but the outcome helped me feel some sense of justice. However, ever since I told my friend about it, she’s been distant and barely spoken to me.

We used to be really close, but now she’s completely withdrawn, and I can’t help but wonder if it’s related to the settlement. There’s been no argument or falling out, but it feels like my news changed something. I’ve tried reaching out, but she’s just cold or makes excuses not to talk. I thought she’d be happy for me, but instead, it feels like she’s cut me off.

AIBU to think she’s stopped talking to me because of the settlement? Or am I overthinking this and it’s just a coincidence?

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Lucy377 · 22/09/2024 14:36

Sometimes people get miffed when they see someone looking after their own needs and standing up for themselves, it comes across as a sort of injustice and they feel wounded.
In a sort of - that's not fair look what she got from Mum and Dad, I never got that and I struggle all the time too but I don't complain!

CraftyOP · 22/09/2024 14:39

You never know what goes on in other people's heads, especially with money. I had a friend I really liked and can barely bring myself to talk to her now. Our kids are friends but her behaviour is so cold and distance and she plays so many games. I can't do it anymore. In your situation it could just be coincidence. Having received a settlement in the past I'm pleased for you, people often don't realise that it's little compensation often to a well paid role that's no viable or career that was going one way and is now another.

user1471538283 · 22/09/2024 14:41

It's jealousy. Sometimes as I've found out recently, you never really know anyone.

You've got a will of steel and you fought this alone. And she can't stand it that you succeeded.

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 14:44

Cerialkiller · 22/09/2024 13:49

Has it changed your level of wealth in comparison to her? Were you the 'poor' friend that she could feel superior over? Alternatively it works the other way. If you were similar or higher wealth then her she could feel like the money wasn't 'deserved' because you were already doing well. People can be very funny about these things.

I can freely admit that I would feel envious in these circumstances (about the money not the work issues) but I would be fully aware that it would be my issue and i get over it without effecting the friendship.

I don’t think our financial situations were ever a point of comparison in our friendship. I’m in my 30s and live independently and she’s slightly older and always referred to herself as my ‘older sister.’ She treats me like a surrogate little sis, taking me out for dinner on my birthdays and when we meet up. Given our long history, I don’t see why she would compare us in that way.

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BESTAUNTB · 22/09/2024 14:55

LokiDoki75 · 22/09/2024 14:35

I wonder if she feels like you got more than she thinks you deserve? It sounds as though she felt that 10k was an adequate amount and any more than that was “greedy” in her eyes (even though she has been proved wrong) and she’s annoyed about it.

I think it was this.

I was pushed out of a job (horrible, vindictive behaviour to make my working life difficult to force me to resign) for becoming pregnant 20 years ago. I remember my MiL thought that I should have just resigned because I’d only been there eight months. That was her opinion and she was of course allowed it, but the law said something else.

They offered me six weeks PILON to go away. I threatened tribunal, rang ACAS, and got a better settlement. However I knew that MiL (although we got on well) thought I had milked it.

It is never wrong to call out poor employer behaviour.

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 14:56

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/09/2024 13:57

She might be feeling weirded out that you're discussing your settlement, as they invariably include an absolutely binding non-disclosure clause as part of the agreement.

I wouldn't want somebody to risk their settlement by talking to me or anybody else about it, so I'd always try and avoid the subject altogether - especially if it's going to result in you being sued for breaching the terms and you're going to be looking to trace how it got back to the ex-employer that you were doing so.

Edited

I understand the sensitivity around discussing settlements, and I’ve been mindful of what I share.

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GenAvocadoOnToast · 22/09/2024 15:00

meercat23 · 22/09/2024 14:33

I think that it is not uncommon for some people to not be pleased at what they see as others enjoying a windfall however that comes about. Many years ago, when my parents died, as an only child I inherited all of their modest estate. It meant we were able to buy a car for the first time. I was shocked at the attitude of some of the people we knew then.

I knew someone who I considered to be a close friend, but the more stuff she shared with me the more I realised she was lacking empathy and quite an unpleasant person. She was bitter about and jealous of a friend of hers who had managed to buy a house young despite having health difficulties and not working full time. I asked how she managed it and friend casually relayed that her parent died by suicide when she was 13, like it was no big deal. There were other things too, like ranting about people on benefits while she had always worked throughout her own difficulties, seemingly lacking any understanding of how health problems and adversities come in all shapes and sizes and no acknowledgement of the enormous amount of emotional, practical and financial support she received from her parents. It made me wonder what she said about me behind my back.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 22/09/2024 15:01

BESTAUNTB · 22/09/2024 14:55

I think it was this.

I was pushed out of a job (horrible, vindictive behaviour to make my working life difficult to force me to resign) for becoming pregnant 20 years ago. I remember my MiL thought that I should have just resigned because I’d only been there eight months. That was her opinion and she was of course allowed it, but the law said something else.

They offered me six weeks PILON to go away. I threatened tribunal, rang ACAS, and got a better settlement. However I knew that MiL (although we got on well) thought I had milked it.

It is never wrong to call out poor employer behaviour.

It’s completely the right thing to call out poor employer behaviour. They will hopefully have learned an expensive lesson and treat their employees better in future. Although I have never sought or received compensation, I view others that have as having done a public service.

Barney16 · 22/09/2024 15:15

She has stopped speaking to you because you got forty grand and she didn't. I know that sounds insane because you went through a very difficult situation and she didn't but she's just plain jealous of the money you got.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 22/09/2024 15:19

When you say she would take you out to dinner etc...was that always equally reciprocated? Could she feel that she subbed you over the years and now you've not offered to share any of your 'good fortune'?

Mymanyellow · 22/09/2024 15:19

I think she was used to you being ‘little sis’ now the dynamic changed about going out for meals etc she doesn’t like. Either that she’s miffed you haven’t given her any.

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 15:27

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 22/09/2024 15:19

When you say she would take you out to dinner etc...was that always equally reciprocated? Could she feel that she subbed you over the years and now you've not offered to share any of your 'good fortune'?

I’ve always appreciated her treating me, and I’ve tried to reciprocate in other ways like gifts on birthdays and Christmas. Our dynamic has been like this since I was 16, and she’s 10 years older, so it’s always felt like this “big sister relationship” she proudly claims. Our friendship has always been about support, not competition.

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Josephinesnapoleon · 22/09/2024 15:28

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 14:44

I don’t think our financial situations were ever a point of comparison in our friendship. I’m in my 30s and live independently and she’s slightly older and always referred to herself as my ‘older sister.’ She treats me like a surrogate little sis, taking me out for dinner on my birthdays and when we meet up. Given our long history, I don’t see why she would compare us in that way.

And have you offered or ever reciprocated?

CocktailsAtNoon · 22/09/2024 15:34

I think it is envy. My BF married a very wealthy man and overnight she was dropped by a surprising number of our mutual friends. And was the subject of some really awful talk, and people who tried to milk her by expecting her to pay for everything.

Last year my older DS was awarded middle rate care DLA and lower rate mobility. I have told not a single soul because I know we will be the recipient of nastiness. Even though I doubt anyone would want their own child to have the significant difficulties mine has.

spuddlesmcgoo · 22/09/2024 15:37

If she’s not a colleague then yes that’s weird that she’s acting funny about it given there’s no chance of it effecting her.

I don’t agree with PP suggestion that it’s NDA related either. Nobody in the real world thinks omg you shouldn’t be telling me this info that your random boss who I don’t know from adam has asked you not to repeat.

Is she perhaps in financial difficulty herself at the moment so struggling not to be a bit jealous? I’d hedge my bets on that or as others suggested, she’s enjoyed being the one with money, orrrrrr as she’s treated you in the past she’s annoyed that you haven’t yet returned the favour now she feels you are able.

DeathNote11 · 22/09/2024 15:40

You really do find out who your friends are in the good times. People love to be around others misfortune, because it makes them feel 'lucky' & elevates them. But only a real friend can be happy for your good fortune. I found this out when I unexpectedly came into money.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/09/2024 15:45

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 14:56

I understand the sensitivity around discussing settlements, and I’ve been mindful of what I share.

Usually the terms involve not even saying you've got a settlement in the first place. I don't agree with this, but all the ones I've been aware of in some way have made it absolutely clear you can't mention it exists, much less that you got forty thousand or whatever out of it.

TimelyIntervention · 22/09/2024 15:46

I was going to say jealousy and/or a changed dynamic, and your later posts support this. She’s always been the “big sister”. Now you’ve shifted gears, you’ve taken charge of things, you’ve stood up for yourself (against her advice), you’ve got a good payment from it. Maybe she needs to be needed.

librathroughandthrough · 22/09/2024 15:47

Op, are you not bound by non-disclosure clause?

thepariscrimefiles · 22/09/2024 15:55

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 14:44

I don’t think our financial situations were ever a point of comparison in our friendship. I’m in my 30s and live independently and she’s slightly older and always referred to herself as my ‘older sister.’ She treats me like a surrogate little sis, taking me out for dinner on my birthdays and when we meet up. Given our long history, I don’t see why she would compare us in that way.

Given your relationship, I think that she is miffed that you didn't take her advice to settle at £10,000 and the fact that you then were awarded 4 times as much means that you were right not to take her advice. She is used to being in the more experienced older sister role that always knows best. This has put her nose out of joint.

Mary46 · 22/09/2024 16:02

I think its jealousy op. Would def keep a distance. I dont tell people much now as its not worth it!

thisoldcity · 22/09/2024 16:04

user1471538283 · 22/09/2024 14:41

It's jealousy. Sometimes as I've found out recently, you never really know anyone.

You've got a will of steel and you fought this alone. And she can't stand it that you succeeded.

I think this is it. People are not always as nice as you think they are. Ask anyone who's had a serious illness - there are always some 'friends' who don't help in any way at all, sometimes others who avoid them.

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 16:09

spuddlesmcgoo · 22/09/2024 15:37

If she’s not a colleague then yes that’s weird that she’s acting funny about it given there’s no chance of it effecting her.

I don’t agree with PP suggestion that it’s NDA related either. Nobody in the real world thinks omg you shouldn’t be telling me this info that your random boss who I don’t know from adam has asked you not to repeat.

Is she perhaps in financial difficulty herself at the moment so struggling not to be a bit jealous? I’d hedge my bets on that or as others suggested, she’s enjoyed being the one with money, orrrrrr as she’s treated you in the past she’s annoyed that you haven’t yet returned the favour now she feels you are able.

Right, it’s unrealistic to think we wouldn’t share significant events in our lives, including what happens at work with friends and family. Like be for real.

Maybe there’s more going on for her, like you say, but it doesn’t make sense for her to hold that against me.

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 16:11

librathroughandthrough · 22/09/2024 15:47

Op, are you not bound by non-disclosure clause?

Interestingly, I’m not; it was inadvertently omitted from the settlement agreement. However, I’ve been mindful of what I share, and this thread isn’t about the specifics of my settlement. I’d appreciate it if we could focus on the main topic at hand.

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limmie · 22/09/2024 16:18

Lucy377 · 22/09/2024 14:36

Sometimes people get miffed when they see someone looking after their own needs and standing up for themselves, it comes across as a sort of injustice and they feel wounded.
In a sort of - that's not fair look what she got from Mum and Dad, I never got that and I struggle all the time too but I don't complain!

Sounds like this to me too

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