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'i would die for my kids' ..but would people really?!

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ShouldIGoHigher · 19/09/2024 21:34

Had a very interesting discussion today with my mum and wondered other peoples thoughts.

We were talking about how a lot of people say 'i would die for kids' as a testament of how much they love their children but don't actually mean it or really think about what that actually means and actually.. wouldn't.

So in my mind if someone says they would die for them I take that to mean there's nothing on this earth they wouldn't do for them and to keep them safe.
But then so many people say that but yet won't do basic things for their DC if it's at an inconvenience to themselves let alone put themselves in harms way.

Several examples of this from minor to more extreme.

A work colleagues mum and dad wouldn't watch their grandchildren so my colleague could attend a mammogram for possible cancer. They didn't want to use up annual leave for it. Colleague had to postpone to appointment and unfortunately did have cancer. Of course her parents have said 'i wish I could trade places with you!' ..but they wouldn't even use a leave day for a scan?!

A more extreme example, one of my closest childhood friends has recently left an extremely violent man. She took years of absolute hell from him including violent sex attacks. He battered her in the end and caused lifelong injuries.
Before the final attack she had left him. Her parents new all the ins and outs and saw the bruises. When she left they gave all the lip service of he's a bastard and evil etc. gave her praise for leaving. But the police wouldn't do anything to keep her safe. She kept saying she was worried he was going to come and kill her and he said he would. They saw him say it and knew he was capable. Yet.. they did nothing. Didn't want to get involved and instead gave moral support. I understand this for a friend but your own child?!
In the end he did find her and he absolutely battered her.

My mum knows this friend and her family well and the was aghast at the lip service of how they could say in one breath 'id die for my kids' and in the next sit back and watch their daughter's life be under threat.
She said if it were me or my siblings in that situation with the police unable to help then she would've moved into my house during this period of threat or is with her, without question. Then been prepared to spend the remainder of her days behind bars or dead herself than let him lay a hand on her children.
I honestly believe her and know she would. But then when I think of my kids, I know id do the same. I could definitely make peace with going to prison for the rest of my days for my children's life. How can you say your prepared to literally die for your kids but not go to prison to protect them?

There's also people who say they'd die for their kids but yet they'd not help them financially when they themselves are rich and kids are on the breadline etc.

Do these people genuinely believe it when they say it?
What do they actually mean?

Am I being unreasonable when I say loads of people don't truly mean it when they say it?

YABU - parents do mean it
YANBU - it's lip service because it sounds good to a lot of people.

OP posts:
Josette77 · 19/09/2024 22:48

I would. I fought for over a decade to be a Mom and the day the judge said " he's yours" I knew I would die for him, and kill for him.

My mom didn't give up drugs for her kids. Or alcohol. We were all removed into care and she chose herself time and time again. BUT, I do think if there was a life and death situation her primal urge would protect us.

Dying for yours kids is much easier than living for them each and every day.

AgileGreenSeal · 19/09/2024 22:49

poppyzbrite4 · 19/09/2024 21:50

I know someone who wanted to tell the police she was responsible for the crime her son had committed as he was going to prison. She was prepared to go to prison for him.

However it really aggravates me when I hear someone living with an abuser say, "I'd do anything for my kids". Except keep them safe, obviously.

However it really aggravates me when I hear someone living with an abuser say, "I'd do anything for my kids". Except keep them safe, obviously.”

It might not be as simple as it seems though- if they are his kids too he will be able to get contact, even with a history of domestic abuse against the mother, and that contact will include overnights where they will be alone with him.

Sometimes mothers stay with an abuser to try to avoid that while the children are babies at least.

ShouldIGoHigher · 19/09/2024 22:49

I also think about that news story here in the UK a few years ago of that woman who found out her sons had been SA by a neighbour. The offender was found guilty but her son's got no justice for some reason and the man was walking free (forgot the details as to why, was some loophole). I think the offender may have had previous too so likely to offend again.

Anyways she planned and murdered him and I think got 10 years thereabouts.

She did an interview on her release and had 0 regrets. She knew 100% what the outcome would be and said she'd do it again. Her son's were proud of her and stood by her.

I think I read it before having kids. I've since had 2 children and now I 100% get it.

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LSTMS30555 · 19/09/2024 22:52

I think intuition kicks in as soon as you see your children in danger.

My brother thought it would be clever to tie 3-4 fireworks together after lightning them they tipped over and started shooting towards all our kids; without thinking I ran over to the fireworks to stamp them out while screaming at my brother & sister to get the kids away and safe.

Another time a stray dog came towards us again instincts kicked straight in and I throw myself in front and gave the dog my arm until the kids were safe & I fought it off.

I believe it's really a motherly instinct to protect our children at all costs.

PuppiesLove · 19/09/2024 22:54

Yes, I would die for my children, but they can still check with me when it works for me for watch their children if they have an appointment they need to go to. I'm not talking about emergency needed right then kind of stuff but things where you have options of time, etc. If there was no other time and they were being squeezed in as urgent, I'd do it though.

ProvincialLady2024 · 19/09/2024 22:55

I'm o my I've for my DC, so yes, I'd sacrifice my life for their benefit in a minute.

poppyzbrite4 · 19/09/2024 22:56

AgileGreenSeal · 19/09/2024 22:49

However it really aggravates me when I hear someone living with an abuser say, "I'd do anything for my kids". Except keep them safe, obviously.”

It might not be as simple as it seems though- if they are his kids too he will be able to get contact, even with a history of domestic abuse against the mother, and that contact will include overnights where they will be alone with him.

Sometimes mothers stay with an abuser to try to avoid that while the children are babies at least.

And sometimes mothers stay when they have other options. Children get taken away from mothers who won't leave because it's considered abuse.

AgileGreenSeal · 19/09/2024 22:57

poppyzbrite4 · 19/09/2024 22:56

And sometimes mothers stay when they have other options. Children get taken away from mothers who won't leave because it's considered abuse.

That can and does happen.
Mothers often get blamed whatever they do.

Nosleepforthismum · 19/09/2024 22:59

I went to the park with my toddler last week and some kids were playing football. The ball accidentally came flying in our direction and I stepped to the side and let my DS take the hit. My poor baby. I was mortified. Clearly the primal instinct to protect absolutely fucking escaped me. Before this I’d have said I’d absolutely die for my kids (assuming I’d have enough time to think about it and override my defective primal instinct obviously)

Jasperj · 19/09/2024 22:59

Clumsy12345 · 19/09/2024 21:49

I think people say this about children not adult children.

I like to think I will still feel like I would die for my child when they’re an adult too! 😂

Thegiantofillinois · 19/09/2024 23:01

I think I would. Especially as I'm middle aged and can't see live getting better from here on in. I've done the really good bits.
I wouldn't go to prison for them though. Fuck that.

Josette77 · 19/09/2024 23:02

Nosleepforthismum · 19/09/2024 22:59

I went to the park with my toddler last week and some kids were playing football. The ball accidentally came flying in our direction and I stepped to the side and let my DS take the hit. My poor baby. I was mortified. Clearly the primal instinct to protect absolutely fucking escaped me. Before this I’d have said I’d absolutely die for my kids (assuming I’d have enough time to think about it and override my defective primal instinct obviously)

Lol I actually love this. 💖 I think lots of us would do the same without thinking.

Smidge001 · 19/09/2024 23:02

Nosleepforthismum · 19/09/2024 22:59

I went to the park with my toddler last week and some kids were playing football. The ball accidentally came flying in our direction and I stepped to the side and let my DS take the hit. My poor baby. I was mortified. Clearly the primal instinct to protect absolutely fucking escaped me. Before this I’d have said I’d absolutely die for my kids (assuming I’d have enough time to think about it and override my defective primal instinct obviously)

Grin
PuppiesLove · 19/09/2024 23:05

Jasperj · 19/09/2024 22:59

I like to think I will still feel like I would die for my child when they’re an adult too! 😂

I don't think it changes really. And then you'd probably die for your grandchildren too, if any, because I think the only thing harder than losing my own child (happened) would be having to watch my child go through that pain.

I think the instinct is there though. Once I was holding my toddler and slipped on a very slippery patch by a pool. I was going to fall down with the toddler hitting the ground or falling in the pool. I instinctively turned my body as I fell to keep the toddler away from the pool and protect them from hitting the ground. Totally did my back in and lost consciousness hitting my head, because I couldn't break my own fall in protecting my child, but the toddler was completely safe and unharmed.

bakewellbride · 19/09/2024 23:14

@PuppiesLove I had similar but before ds was born! I was cleaning the bathroom and stood on a ledge to reach up high and I fell. I instinctively fell in a way that really hurt me but protected my huge bump.

bakewellbride · 19/09/2024 23:14

I would die for my children 100%.

Stickytoffeepudding6 · 19/09/2024 23:17

No children. But I'd die for my cat as she's my baby - does that count? I'd hurt anyone who hurt her too.

The same with my immediate family, I would die for them. Mum, Dad, Sister, Neice.

Oh yes and my DP!

sweeneytoddsrazor · 19/09/2024 23:19

The urge to protect is very strong, and yes I think I would want to die for my kids if it kept them safe. But is it truly the best course of action. As someone has said is it better for your young children to lose their mother or their sibling? Neither is a nice option but which would be less traumatic and have the least negative long term consequences.

On a slightly different note I remember after the boxing day tsunami a newspaper columnist wrote that her child asked her which of her 2 children she would save in those circumstances given she would have to hold on to something with one hand to stop being swept away and that only left one hand for a couple of children.

bakewellbride · 19/09/2024 23:19

@Stickytoffeepudding6 you'd seriously die for your cat?

Jasperj · 19/09/2024 23:20

PuppiesLove · 19/09/2024 23:05

I don't think it changes really. And then you'd probably die for your grandchildren too, if any, because I think the only thing harder than losing my own child (happened) would be having to watch my child go through that pain.

I think the instinct is there though. Once I was holding my toddler and slipped on a very slippery patch by a pool. I was going to fall down with the toddler hitting the ground or falling in the pool. I instinctively turned my body as I fell to keep the toddler away from the pool and protect them from hitting the ground. Totally did my back in and lost consciousness hitting my head, because I couldn't break my own fall in protecting my child, but the toddler was completely safe and unharmed.

I’m so sorry to hear about your loss.

Yes, my husband and I often remark on the love our parents have for our DC and, though we both came from loving homes, we (half) joke that it seems they love their grandchildren more!

Stickytoffeepudding6 · 19/09/2024 23:20

Thegiantofillinois · 19/09/2024 23:01

I think I would. Especially as I'm middle aged and can't see live getting better from here on in. I've done the really good bits.
I wouldn't go to prison for them though. Fuck that.

Yes I wouldn't go to prison for anyone. If you've done something bad enough to go to prison then you're on your own there. Take it as a life lesson.

But if anyone hurt my parents etc then I'd be willing to go to prison.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 19/09/2024 23:20

Even in their old age my parents would walk to the ends of the earth for their kids they would never in a million years act like the ones in your examples. Accordingly I would be the same with mine

Kirstyshine · 19/09/2024 23:22

@Josette77 “Dying for yours kids is much easier than living for them each and every day.”
Yes.

Stickytoffeepudding6 · 19/09/2024 23:23

bakewellbride · 19/09/2024 23:19

@Stickytoffeepudding6 you'd seriously die for your cat?

Yep. Think what you want but I couldn't leave her to be hurt if I could stop it.

I don't have children though so it would be different if I had baby. I wouldn't then obviously.

itsmabeline · 19/09/2024 23:23

Yes I would.

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