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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To organise a 40th and not include drinks or food?

545 replies

IVFendomum · 17/09/2024 19:33

I’m organising drinks for my husbands 40th in January. I’ve booked an area in a bar in central London so relatively easy for most of our friends to get to. I have asked some of his close friends from further afield but said no expectation at all.

I’m spending quite a bit on taking him away for a night and I also want to buy him a gift to open. I don’t have much spare cash - am PT at the mo and really feeling the slashed income.

AIBU to not include drinks or food for everyone? Would you be offended? Or is it okay to just organise a get together and book an area and that be enough?

OP posts:
Moonshine5 · 17/09/2024 21:40

CinnamonTart · 17/09/2024 21:17

And it’s actually a really relaxed and fun way to do it. There’s 0 stress on all sides. I went to a celebrity’s birthday party and they did exactly this. It works!

Not that big of a "celebrity' then 😂

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/09/2024 21:40

Gosh, how times change! In my twenties, for my birthdays, I'd go out for a nice not too expensive meal with friends, each of us paying for ourselves; for my 30th, I hosted a party at home, providing food and drinks and floor/beds for those who needed to stay; for subsequent milestone birthdays, I've either ignored them completely or hosted a party at a venue where people ate, drank and danced at my expense. My seventieth is coming up and I'll either ignore it or have a huge knees up at a venue I like, again at my own expense.

Penguinmouse · 17/09/2024 21:40

Just book an area and say you’re having birthday drinks. If I received an invitation like that, I wouldn’t expect to be bought drinks - in fact I’d be buying for the birthday boy.

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/09/2024 21:40

theleafandnotthetree · 17/09/2024 21:38

Or you could just NOT have a party. I'm of the 'do it right or don't do it at all' school of thought, especially with something as discretionary as a birthday celebration. I have never had a birthday party since I was 21 - am now 51 - and lo, still have friends and the sky hasn't fallen in. I would be frankly appalled if I hauled my ass in the city centre, paid for a babysitter possibly etc and was met with tumbleweed. 🙄

Agree. You chose to spend your money on the weekend away. That is fine. But you don't have the budget for a party so.... don't have one.

One small glass of prosecco isn't going to cut it. Can't you have the party at a less "smart" venue and at least pay for beer and wine for all? Or at home? How many people do you plan to invite that your home can't handle it?

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/09/2024 21:42

rainsofcastamere · 17/09/2024 21:22

Right OP, lovely idea, I just think you need to reword it! Instead of invites I'd just send text
Messages/WhatsApp.

'Obviously cash is tight for us all at the minute and whilst we'd love to provide an epic shindig for Barry's 40th the budget just doesn't stretch, but as our closest friends it would be lovely if you could join us at the woolpack on 13th of October to celebrate his birthday - no pressure but we'll be in there from 7pm - please no presents'

We went to a a wedding reception on Saturday at the pub where we all used to knock about, there were 250 people there - no food and no drink put on but it was a fabulous night and people went and paid for their drinks because they wanted to celebrate with their mates.

I find that grim. "Come on out and celebrate us but don't expect any hospitality."

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/09/2024 21:45

Countingcactus · 17/09/2024 21:32

This. We recently went to a friend’s 50th birthday party. It was in his house. Everyone brought their own drinks and no food was provided. We also got him a present, although that was because we felt like it, rather than feeling any pressure. I honestly didn’t think twice about any of this. Why would anyone expect a celebration for a friend to involve freebies? 🧐

That is beyond the pale, really. Expecting people to show up with gifts AND their own food and drink?

Talk about poor form. If one invites people to one's home, one provides the best that one can offer. If one can offer nothing, sit there alone. Don't take up people's time and effort without so much as a glass of wine and some cheese.

Countingcactus · 17/09/2024 21:45

IVFendomum · 17/09/2024 20:24

Exactly

I think you’re getting some strange responses of this thread. Just tell your friends you’ve reserved an area in a bar and ask if anyone would like to come for a drink. I’m sure your friends will understand what this means. As others have said, just set the start time for late ish to allow people time to eat first.

Pebbles16 · 17/09/2024 21:45

IVFendomum · 17/09/2024 19:33

I’m organising drinks for my husbands 40th in January. I’ve booked an area in a bar in central London so relatively easy for most of our friends to get to. I have asked some of his close friends from further afield but said no expectation at all.

I’m spending quite a bit on taking him away for a night and I also want to buy him a gift to open. I don’t have much spare cash - am PT at the mo and really feeling the slashed income.

AIBU to not include drinks or food for everyone? Would you be offended? Or is it okay to just organise a get together and book an area and that be enough?

In the kindest possible way, you are trying to do something beyond your means.
Just scale it back

fortheveryfirsttime · 17/09/2024 21:47

Cosyblankets · 17/09/2024 20:19

If my friend said she'd reserved an area of a bar for her husband's birthday then i would think she'd reserved an area of the bar. I would not expect anything else. OP says it's easy for their friends to get to and there's no expectation on those who might need to travel.

This! I'd never expect to be provided with drinks and food in a bar.

Party at home I'd be taking at least a bottle of wine with me.

Village hall or function room I'd check if it was BYOB or a paid bar.

Restaurant or bar I'd assume I'd be buying my own meal/drinks.

I don't expect the birthday person to pay for me, if anything it would be the other way around.

I'm glad I don't have friends that expect this because we'd never be able to afford to have celebrations!

Hoolihan · 17/09/2024 21:47

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/09/2024 21:45

That is beyond the pale, really. Expecting people to show up with gifts AND their own food and drink?

Talk about poor form. If one invites people to one's home, one provides the best that one can offer. If one can offer nothing, sit there alone. Don't take up people's time and effort without so much as a glass of wine and some cheese.

PMSL

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/09/2024 21:47

Penguinmouse · 17/09/2024 21:40

Just book an area and say you’re having birthday drinks. If I received an invitation like that, I wouldn’t expect to be bought drinks - in fact I’d be buying for the birthday boy.

This must be generational. Or maybe cultural (I'm only a quarter English, quarter Irish, the rest of me is French)? But in my world, you invite people, you give them hospitality!

KatyaKabanova · 17/09/2024 21:48

Countingcactus · 17/09/2024 21:39

He had lots of people coming over, and most were drinking alcohol. I don’t see why he should have to buy it for everyone. It’s not like he just invited a couple of friends over for a cup of tea.

Why did he invite lots of people to his house and provide nothing? I find that strange.

ClaudiaWinklepanda · 17/09/2024 21:48

I’ve been skint at times in my life, and had skint friends. I think I’d say, “It’s DH’s birthday and we’d love to hang out in the pub with you, we’ll be at X place at X time. Please don’t bring a present, we just want to catch up and see everyone.”

Vetiver · 17/09/2024 21:49

Penguinmouse · 17/09/2024 21:40

Just book an area and say you’re having birthday drinks. If I received an invitation like that, I wouldn’t expect to be bought drinks - in fact I’d be buying for the birthday boy.

Ditto!

Hoolihan · 17/09/2024 21:49

So let me get this straight - people on this thread would rather not see their friends on their birthdays for the sake of a bowl of crisps?

Countingcactus · 17/09/2024 21:50

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/09/2024 21:45

That is beyond the pale, really. Expecting people to show up with gifts AND their own food and drink?

Talk about poor form. If one invites people to one's home, one provides the best that one can offer. If one can offer nothing, sit there alone. Don't take up people's time and effort without so much as a glass of wine and some cheese.

One would think that one might remember to eat their supper before attending a house party. One wouldn’t want to be hungry. Failing that, one could always get a quick kebab on the way home.

KatyaKabanova · 17/09/2024 21:51

Hoolihan · 17/09/2024 21:49

So let me get this straight - people on this thread would rather not see their friends on their birthdays for the sake of a bowl of crisps?

No.

TrickyTrifle · 17/09/2024 21:51

SavingNotSpending · 17/09/2024 20:26

I think it’s a generational thing. My parents would expect food, I (and everyone else I know/socialise with in our early 30s) would not.

An invite to a bar to me means going out for a drink to celebrate a birthday - people will probably buy the birthday boy a drink but otherwise will get their own/do their own rounds. If I was going to drinks in the evening I’d eat something before I went, other people might order something while they’re there. Just because you’ve booked an area it doesn’t mean you’re hosting a party, just that you’ve been organised and are making sure there’s space for everyone to stand/sit together!

I think some of the responses are unfair. OP, just make sure you word it as “we’ll be at X on this date if you’d like to come for a drink to celebrate” rather than anything more formal and don’t feel bad for not having the money to cater to everyone all night.

I agree. Lots of friends have reserved areas for their birthdays in London. I've (nor my friends) have gone expecting to be fed and watered at the expense of the birthday person- it's always been a chance to get together, see some old faces and enjoy a evening out. I know this is a generational (and perhaps regional) thing though - my parents would never dream of hosting and expecting others to pay, whereas my generation wouldn't host and be expected to pay, as it would just be a get together in a bar. I know everyone is different though and guess it just depends on the group and the 'norms'

nOasistickets · 17/09/2024 21:51

If you're broke then dont have this?! Bladdy bonkers if you ask me - why not just spend an evening with him just you two?!

fortheveryfirsttime · 17/09/2024 21:51

Hoolihan · 17/09/2024 21:49

So let me get this straight - people on this thread would rather not see their friends on their birthdays for the sake of a bowl of crisps?

Lots of people on here don't actually like their friends or want any. 😄

Hoolihan · 17/09/2024 21:52

KatyaKabanova · 17/09/2024 21:51

No.

Do you actually have any friends, just out of interest?

Kitkat1523 · 17/09/2024 21:53

ClaudiaWinklepanda · 17/09/2024 21:48

I’ve been skint at times in my life, and had skint friends. I think I’d say, “It’s DH’s birthday and we’d love to hang out in the pub with you, we’ll be at X place at X time. Please don’t bring a present, we just want to catch up and see everyone.”

Except it’s not the pub….it’s a swanky central London bar

fortheveryfirsttime · 17/09/2024 21:56

IVFendomum · 17/09/2024 20:13

Okay thanks for responses.

In an ideal world I’d have enough money to not worry about this and pay for everyone’s drinks and food all night!

It does sound I need to provide food at least - it won’t be the cocktail sausage type cheapo option as it’s quite a smart bar, it’ll be pretty pricey I think.

Am going to ask DH if he can contribute towards food - and perhaps we can buy enough Prosecco for everyone to have a glass.

Ugh I wish I earned more and didn’t have to worry about this! I would have hosted a party at home but our place isn’t big enough.

Honestly don't overthink it. In a bar people won't be expecting food. At the most I'd see if they can do some nuts and olives or other bar snacks. People will eat first.

It sounds like a lovely idea and hopefully your friends won't be as desperate to be snarky as some on here. 😉

saltinesandcoffeecups · 17/09/2024 21:56

Did I miss something or have you already invited people? Seems like a cart/horse situation and now you’re looking for reassurance that it’s ok not to provide anything.

So if that’s the case and you don’t have the money to provide a drink(s) and food, your option is to not provide drinks or food.

Not sure there is full agreement in this thread so his friends will either be fine with it or they’ll think you rude. 🤷‍♀️

Penguinmouse · 17/09/2024 21:58

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/09/2024 21:47

This must be generational. Or maybe cultural (I'm only a quarter English, quarter Irish, the rest of me is French)? But in my world, you invite people, you give them hospitality!

Edited

I think it is generational - finding a lot of these responses quite odd! (I’m mid 30s)