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CF coffee meet-up - opinions needed!

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timtamfan21 · 17/09/2024 14:39

Have recently started dating a coworker I have known for a few years. We socialised often on work nights but the few weeks we have been dating, it has mainly consisted of us having either cinema date nights (where we tend to take it in turns to pay, based on who can access a discount through their phone provider rewards scheme on that particular night) or cooking for each other and having a cosy night in at our respective homes. We haven’t really been eating out much or going for coffee - we don’t work in a particularly high-paying field.

Anyway, he has close friend who he often meets for coffee - just to clarify I have no issue with him having a female friend. She’s one of the only people who he is able to speak his mother tongue with on a regular basis and they both have no family in this country, so they having a sibling dynamic. She has a young baby so coffee shops are an ideal meet-up space for them.

He recently wanted to introduce us so invited me to their weekly coffee meet-up, I was happy to go. He bought the first round of drinks and mentioned that it was his turn because she had bought them last time - makes sense. When the 2 of them met up, they both had a coffee and I just had a water. We did small-talk in English. It got a bit awkward after a few minutes because he said something that upset her (he questioned a parenting choice she had made - leaving the baby with a mutual friend for 2 days who is apparently known to be flaky, and she got offended) and then they switched to their own language to have the argument. There was some back and forth for about 20 minutes so I just went on my phone.

Eventually they 'made up' and we decided to get another drink. We all fancied something different so went up to have a look at the menu. They were both expecting me to pay for this round in hindsight, but I didn’t clock on to this. I understand he had paid for the last round, but I wasn’t present last time they met up when she paid, so I didn’t realise there were expectations of me. For some reason I just had it in my head that he would pay, since he had bought me to meet his friend. I was the “guest” in a long-standing tradition, so I didn’t feel obligated to pay, it didn’t occur to me. I also think that being excluded from so much conversation felt quite rude to me and made me less inclined to step up and buy her a coffee. Though I did feel cheeky letting him buy another one for me, especially since I fancied one of the £££ artsy-fartsy frappe drinks, so I got my phone out and said “I’ll get mine”. I got daggers from the both of them and he said “You don’t buy a coffee just for yourself! Forget it, I’ll get them!”. I did wonder if I should offer to pay for me and him, but then that would’ve felt awkward too because it would've made her feel like the 3rd wheel. Anyway, he paid and we went back to sit down.

There was still a bit of post-argument tension between the two of them and now they both seemed irritated at me too, so we all finished our drinks quickly in relative silence and parted ways with her.

As he drove me back to my flat, he said I had been rude to her and him with the coffee-buying situation and apparently when I nipped to the toilet as we were leaving, she told him she felt like I didn’t like her because of it. She also said I seemed disinterested in her 6 month old baby because I didn’t coo or ask to hold - I love babies but I didn’t really acknowledge the baby too much on this occasion as it felt inappropriate on my first time meeting the mum. I defended myself and he said he won’t bother introducing me to his friends next time and that I seem disinterested in his life. He hasn’t messaged me since, this was all on Sunday. I really liked him and I thought we had the same life goals. I’d hate for it to end over something as trivial as this.

So, MN, was I cheeky? Should I have offered to buy them both a coffee? Or was my offer to buy my own coffee enough?

Also because I know somebody is going to ask (my own friends questioned it and took some convincing otherwise, and I shared the exact same facts I have done in this post) - no, my boyfriend isn’t secretly the father of her child. Won’t get too much into this as it’s not my place but looking at the child it is physically impossible for the child to be the product of my boyfriend and this woman, - there is no question, it’s a race thing. And they really do have a brother-sister dynamic, so this isn’t about jealousy.

OP posts:
timtamfan21 · 20/09/2024 13:21

It's a non-starter anyway as I've used up all my annual leave on this week, but omg it's so fucking weird!

OP posts:
Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 20/09/2024 13:22

I think he's in a relationship with her, daddy is their vaby and you're the beard.

Avertmyeyes · 20/09/2024 13:23

That is so suspect.
Those two are in fantasy land and dragging you in so they can both say to her baby-daddy.
Mr Godfather had a GF, she knows we are just friends!

Stay away.

NotSoHotMess24 · 20/09/2024 13:24

Have you not broken up with him yet??

Dump him and move on.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 20/09/2024 13:24

They will be sleeping in the bed together and you'll be in the sofa.

TrickyTrifle · 20/09/2024 13:26

Fuck my life.
Trust me, I have been in a very similar position - the script is always the same with these fuckers. They can have each other. They are playing you, and you'll be the fool. Get out with your head held high and someone who deserves you.

I cannot say this any louder - GET RID, OP!!!!!

timtamfan21 · 20/09/2024 13:27

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 20/09/2024 13:22

I think he's in a relationship with her, daddy is their vaby and you're the beard.

Eh?

OP posts:
Avertmyeyes · 20/09/2024 13:32

timtamfan21 · 20/09/2024 13:27

Eh?

Think she was trying to say.
This couple, are using you as a “beard” term gay man uses for fake GF so people don’t know he’s gay.

They have a relationship that they are hiding.

They are using you as Godfather love interest so they can say. Nothing to see here … Godfather in serious relationship w OP. See, she knows nothing going on, she trusts him, we are close friends etc

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 20/09/2024 13:36

timtamfan21 · 20/09/2024 13:27

Eh?

Sorry typing fast- he is the baby's daddy, although you said it may not be the case, it seems pretty obvious the flaky daddy is himself, or at the very least he is so involved he effectually took on that role. I presume they have been in a relationship for a long time and wanted each other, maybe not good together not good apart situationship.
So they need someone (you) to continue the relationship but look normal to the outer world.

Chatgbt · 20/09/2024 14:03

Id probably have said " let's all calm down and I'll get the coffees! "

Beautiful3 · 20/09/2024 14:14

The more you post about their friendship, the weridier it gets. I wouldn't want to go out with someone, with an intense friendship with a female.

Foxlovesfruit · 20/09/2024 14:28

Can you imagine things going forward into the future? If you have a baby together, get married, all of that. Her loitering in the background. He will be at her beck and call, dropping everything when she clicks her fingers. It's like he owes her. It's bizarre.

Ohnobackagain · 20/09/2024 14:51

@timtamfan21 just no! He has no boundaries. He can’t invite you on their trip? And he shouldn’t be having the trip anyway, at least not same room. This is totally weird and in your shoes - I’d be running a mile. Just don’t go there!

MarkingBad · 20/09/2024 14:52

timtamfan21 · 20/09/2024 13:20

Is it concerning that he and this friend have booked a holiday for mid-November? It will be those 2 and the baby. Same hotel room to save money but she'll have the bed and him the sofa, and it's an apartment/self-catering style room. She has a friend over there so the plan is that he can babysit whilst she spends time with the friend. They will also have some time together too as she wants to eat out in the evening with him and her other friend. They will be gone for a week. He is still trying to win me over into giving him another chance and has said I can come if I want and he'll ask if she'd be willing to let us have the bed and her the sofa. I asked him if he had asked her about this plan (to have me join them) and he said she wasn't a fan of it but if I wanted to come he'd be able to convince her.

It is as plain as the nose on a face this is not a good couple to get entangled with. What next, a threesome, or even a throuple with you as chief housemaid, cook, and babysitter?

I think the term narcissist is over used but I do know narcissists are attracted to each other because it is like looking in a mirror for them. They can't have a normal relationship so often stick together like glue and drag their poor maniplated victims around in casual relationships to full blown marriage and families suffering at these twin personalities hands.

You are his second choice here, she is always going to be his first and she keeps him along for the ego boost he gives her.

Wow, these people are really something. Please OP, don't even consider it.

If you need proof tell him you don't want him to go and you would prefer he stopped all contact with her, for you to be his priority and watch him blow up again with unrightious indignation.

OilLamp · 20/09/2024 15:10

timtamfan21 · 20/09/2024 13:20

Is it concerning that he and this friend have booked a holiday for mid-November? It will be those 2 and the baby. Same hotel room to save money but she'll have the bed and him the sofa, and it's an apartment/self-catering style room. She has a friend over there so the plan is that he can babysit whilst she spends time with the friend. They will also have some time together too as she wants to eat out in the evening with him and her other friend. They will be gone for a week. He is still trying to win me over into giving him another chance and has said I can come if I want and he'll ask if she'd be willing to let us have the bed and her the sofa. I asked him if he had asked her about this plan (to have me join them) and he said she wasn't a fan of it but if I wanted to come he'd be able to convince her.

What have I just read??

This gets weirder by the post.

EPankhurst · 20/09/2024 15:12

timtamfan21 · 20/09/2024 13:20

Is it concerning that he and this friend have booked a holiday for mid-November? It will be those 2 and the baby. Same hotel room to save money but she'll have the bed and him the sofa, and it's an apartment/self-catering style room. She has a friend over there so the plan is that he can babysit whilst she spends time with the friend. They will also have some time together too as she wants to eat out in the evening with him and her other friend. They will be gone for a week. He is still trying to win me over into giving him another chance and has said I can come if I want and he'll ask if she'd be willing to let us have the bed and her the sofa. I asked him if he had asked her about this plan (to have me join them) and he said she wasn't a fan of it but if I wanted to come he'd be able to convince her.

I think it's fucking weird that you're still talking to him TBH.

OilLamp · 20/09/2024 15:15

Before you dump him tell him that you are going on holiday with a male friend at a one bed apartment but not to worry as male friend will be sleeping on the sofa.

His response will make you want to dump him even more.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/09/2024 15:28

Sounds like he is also sleeping with her tbh!

Theotherone234 · 20/09/2024 15:43

You asked if it's weird that they're going away together, so you don't think his behaviour so far is weird?

You considered joining them?

You posted on here to ask what we thought yet you aren't prepared to listen to our advice and opinions.

We think you should end the relationship.

WoolySnail · 20/09/2024 15:48

Bin him OP

greencheetah · 20/09/2024 15:54

Where’s your self esteem?

Just dump him. He’s in love with another woman. Seeing you was supposed to make her jealous but it all went wrong.

He is actually going on holiday with her and sharing a room!!! Seriously?

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 20/09/2024 15:59

Foxlovesfruit · 20/09/2024 14:28

Can you imagine things going forward into the future? If you have a baby together, get married, all of that. Her loitering in the background. He will be at her beck and call, dropping everything when she clicks her fingers. It's like he owes her. It's bizarre.

Except it's not the friend who would be loitering in the background, but the OP. As a third wheel, in the background of her own relationship.

Cem82 · 20/09/2024 16:56

He’s in love with her and she is stringing him along to get free child care! Run away!

Cardinalita90 · 21/09/2024 10:15

I'll preface this by saying i'm a staunch believer men and women can be friends. But in this case they've developed a weirdly enmeshed dynamic so understand if you stay with him that there will be 3 of you in this relationship. You might not see her but she'll know about every argument, your sex life, every surprise etc. This intense enmeshment will probably only end when she gets a new partner.

If you're content to know She'll be part of your relationship go right ahead. But know you'll never be his priority.

BeansOnToast41 · 21/09/2024 13:51

Miniopolis · 17/09/2024 15:27

I mean it’s as a simple as ‘you argued for 20 mins in a language I can’t understand and then you wanted me to buy you both a drink?’

This basically sums it up