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Skinny shaming is so accepted

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chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 13:59

I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but skinny shaming is so wildly accepted and tolerated due to slim people being at an advantage due to their body size. As if it's acceptable, because they're slim. I've been body shamed my whole life for being slim. Right from when I was at junior school, to now at 30 years old.

I was relentlessly bullied at school and college. I am not an anomaly, I am a 5'5 size 6-8 female with a normal BMI. I don't need to be shamed about my body. The only people who have ever shamed or bullied me about my weight have been fat or obese people. And I'll be honest I'm trying my hardest not to judge them for their eating habits and size, but when it's a running theme I am starting to think that only fat people have a problem with slim people.

'Skinny privilege' shouldn't be an excuse to exempt bullying and shameful behaviour.
Stop trying to normalise skinny shaming just because it's the 'more desirable' image. It's not our fault that agenda has been pushed so much.

AIBU to think that skinny shaming is just as bad as fat shaming, and that slim people aren't to an advantage on this? I don't believe in the whole 'well at least you're skinny and being shamed.' Interested to know others thoughts.

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SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:08

TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:06

Billionaires are a minority; I'd say they're still pretty privileged.

Billionaires truly inherited such status

Slim people simply just did not gain weight.

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 15:09

Onwardsandsidewaysyetagain · 17/09/2024 15:01

I don't think anyone is saying 'it's ok' and I think having gone through your illness, that's a double-layer of horribleness that anyone would say that to you.

I don't think it's the same as living in an obese body, but that doesn't make it not hurtful.

But I couldn't help my cancer, or what it did to my body. I didn't have a choice in that.

Whereas most people that are overweight or obese, are that due to lifestyle choices and family ties.

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TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:09

SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:06

As I said, anecdotal.

Ime, younger, shorter, thinner women were considered....not as competent.

There are always reasons for people to assume women are incompetent - too young and pretty, too old and fat and everything in between. Women of all ages and appearance experience sexism and discrimination, but the idea that we live in a society that values older women is still a beautiful dream not yet reflected in many places.

RandomUsernameHere · 17/09/2024 15:09

YANBU. I hate stupid comments about slim women not being "real women" and people claiming they're against body shaming while at the same time body shaming slim women.

Frozenberries · 17/09/2024 15:09

Autumn38 · 17/09/2024 14:55

I think I’d question the language you’ve used. I’d accept that insecure people wrongly bully very slim women. However, I think the concept of shame is trickier. Fat women often feel shame about their weight because of assumptions about things like diet, health, fitness, longevity, personal hygiene, sex, laziness…the list goes on.

if you are being bullied for being thin - I’d argue it’s much less loaded. Added to that is the fact that fat people are actively discriminated against in things like employment etc, I don’t think you can really compare the two.

You think OP should question the use of the word shame? She feels how she feels. If someone shames somebody by making derogatory comments about their weight then they are shaming them. If OP feels shame, she feels shame.

thin people gets assumptions of having eating disorders, exercise addiction, attention seeking, their every mouthful monitored. As I said above, my friends workmates staged an intervention for bulimia because she ate all her roast dinner on a Christmas works do and then dared to go for a wee. Fat people on the table ate their food and went to the loo without question

weight shaming is weight shaming and it’s equally as unacceptable for skinny people as it is for fat people

TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:10

SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:08

Billionaires truly inherited such status

Slim people simply just did not gain weight.

I'm not equating slim people with billionaires, just saying that a minority can absolutely experience privilege if their status is considered desirable and aspirational. Which slim bodies are.

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 15:10

@Idratherbepaddleboarding completely hear you on the 'trying to steal husbands' comment!

We are not some weird species that are out to get anyones husbands. We're quite happy with our own.

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Idontjetwashthefucker · 17/09/2024 15:10

No-one should be shamed for their weight regardless of whether they are under or overweight but @SpudleyLass can you expand on this If anything obese people enjoy a certain privilege as I've been obese and certainly did NOT enjoy any privilege

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 15:12

@Harvestfestivalknickers

Thank you ❤️

All finished (for now at least).

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TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:12

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 15:09

But I couldn't help my cancer, or what it did to my body. I didn't have a choice in that.

Whereas most people that are overweight or obese, are that due to lifestyle choices and family ties.

You're making a judgement about fat people based on your assumptions about their character or situation. You're prejudiced against fat people even in a thread complaining about weight based prejudice. It's so deeply ingrained to feel contempt and superiority over fat people that it's almost invisible. It's just part of the fabric of everyday life.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 17/09/2024 15:14

I’ve never been shamed for being skinny and was the same size and build as you OP.

In my first two years of high school there was light teasing as me and another girl were the slimmest in our class and year. But we just ignored it.

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 15:16

@TinyRowboats I don't feel any prejudice over fat people. I don't make comments on anyone's bodies and never have.

I was just saying, I've been shamed for being skinny when I had chemo. I had no choice in that.

Some fat and obese people choose to not diet and exercise, or change their lifestyle choices. So they aren't comparable.
My point excludes medical conditions etc.

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Nooneknowsbutme · 17/09/2024 15:16

I've recently lost 3 stone, so this is the first time I have experienced 'skinny shaming'... it blows my mind, as people think it's ok to say 'you've lost enough weight now, you're too slim'
But if I were to reply with 'well it's about time you lost some weight as you're morbidly obese' all hell would break lose...

And yes, it's normally huge or very lazy/unhealthy people who think they can make these comments.

SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:17

Idontjetwashthefucker · 17/09/2024 15:10

No-one should be shamed for their weight regardless of whether they are under or overweight but @SpudleyLass can you expand on this If anything obese people enjoy a certain privilege as I've been obese and certainly did NOT enjoy any privilege

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People these days are less likely to feel comfortable making comments about your weight.

As we see from this thread, slim women are considered "privileged" even though the reasons for slimness are varied so it's considered less bad and more justified in some people' (misguided) eyes.

It's all equal as far as I'm concerned. Don't squeal about what happens to you if you're prepared to inflict it on another.

ImFckingMattDamon · 17/09/2024 15:19

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 14:58

Thanks for your faux concern, but I'm not underweight, thanks. I am under and have been under a medical team, including dieticians, for the best part of 6 years due to my cancer and I am very proud that I've managed to maintain my weight.

I and they would know if I was underweight.

I am just small naturally, not gaunt, thanks.

Were you much slimmer than this when the comments about twig legs etc were made though because from these pictures you don't look skinny (like underweight skinny) at all. Your figure looks pretty perfect to me! Not that that kind of bullying is acceptable even if you were underweight of course!

TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:22

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 15:16

@TinyRowboats I don't feel any prejudice over fat people. I don't make comments on anyone's bodies and never have.

I was just saying, I've been shamed for being skinny when I had chemo. I had no choice in that.

Some fat and obese people choose to not diet and exercise, or change their lifestyle choices. So they aren't comparable.
My point excludes medical conditions etc.

Never mind medical conditions. Obesity is strongly correlated with lower socioeconomic status. Is that a 'lifestyle choice' in your opinion? Children born into poorer families are more likely to be overweight or obese - but that's their fault?

What else is a high predictor of weight gain? Dieting! A lot of women who end up fat get there from making the choice to do what society expects of women - go on a diet. But the vast, vast majority of people who diet gain more weight over time and end up heavier than their starting point. But you blame them for their 'lifestyle choices'.

Many fat people suffer from eating disorders, something else I would argue is not a choice. That's widely dismissed and poorly understood.

I see it all the time on here, the belief that people can be naturally thin but that all fat people are only fat because of their bad choices. In fact, there are all sorts of variables in a person's life, their genetics and their experiences which lead to weight gain. But what people see is a simple equation - fat people are greedy, lazy and uncontrolled and they choose to be that way.

That's prejudice, whether you can see it or not.

Mebebecat · 17/09/2024 15:23

Skinny shaming includes 'youre all skin and bones' 'oi! flat arse/tits' 'looks like you'll blow away' 'no man wants a coat hanger/ skeleton...in bed' 'ffs do some squats ' 'a streak of piss ' ''you can get padded bras/pants you know '
And yes, it's hurtful and boring after a lifetime of it.

SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:25

ImFckingMattDamon · 17/09/2024 15:19

Were you much slimmer than this when the comments about twig legs etc were made though because from these pictures you don't look skinny (like underweight skinny) at all. Your figure looks pretty perfect to me! Not that that kind of bullying is acceptable even if you were underweight of course!

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Disagree. OP is rather worryingly slim.
Bur IP has explained the reasons as to why

SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:27

TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:22

Never mind medical conditions. Obesity is strongly correlated with lower socioeconomic status. Is that a 'lifestyle choice' in your opinion? Children born into poorer families are more likely to be overweight or obese - but that's their fault?

What else is a high predictor of weight gain? Dieting! A lot of women who end up fat get there from making the choice to do what society expects of women - go on a diet. But the vast, vast majority of people who diet gain more weight over time and end up heavier than their starting point. But you blame them for their 'lifestyle choices'.

Many fat people suffer from eating disorders, something else I would argue is not a choice. That's widely dismissed and poorly understood.

I see it all the time on here, the belief that people can be naturally thin but that all fat people are only fat because of their bad choices. In fact, there are all sorts of variables in a person's life, their genetics and their experiences which lead to weight gain. But what people see is a simple equation - fat people are greedy, lazy and uncontrolled and they choose to be that way.

That's prejudice, whether you can see it or not.

I think the main problem and joining link, is mentally illness.

I grew up poor. Was very skinny as a child and then went onto overcomplicated with calories.

Therapy likely would have helped.

But there is no direct reason why poverty should result in obesity, imo.

TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:28

Nooneknowsbutme · 17/09/2024 15:16

I've recently lost 3 stone, so this is the first time I have experienced 'skinny shaming'... it blows my mind, as people think it's ok to say 'you've lost enough weight now, you're too slim'
But if I were to reply with 'well it's about time you lost some weight as you're morbidly obese' all hell would break lose...

And yes, it's normally huge or very lazy/unhealthy people who think they can make these comments.

The idea that 'all hell would break loose' if a fat person were insulted for their size really doesn't stand up. Fat people are insulted all the time - from abuse hurled in the street or out of van windows to bullying to snide comments to faux concern and monitoring of eating habits to people protesting to cabin crew about being seated next to a fat person on a plane to to being mocked online or told they're going to die early - there's loads of it everywhere. Look at the comments section of a plus-size influencer to see what kind of abuse they get. Any woman online gets an absolute ton of misogynistic abuse by the way; I'm certainly not denying it happens to thin women too or saying that's fine. But the idea that fat people are protected and that no one dares say anything to them is just patently and absurdly untrue.

ImFckingMattDamon · 17/09/2024 15:29

SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:25

Disagree. OP is rather worryingly slim.
Bur IP has explained the reasons as to why

Op has said she is a healthy weight? Her figure looks pretty similar to mine (shes possibly slightly slimmer) and I have a bmi of around 21, so slap bang in the middle of the ideal weight range for my height!

TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:29

SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:27

I think the main problem and joining link, is mentally illness.

I grew up poor. Was very skinny as a child and then went onto overcomplicated with calories.

Therapy likely would have helped.

But there is no direct reason why poverty should result in obesity, imo.

And yet it does. Statistics show us that lower socioeconomic status is correlated with obesity, whether you think it's valid or not. It's just a fact.

FrostFlowers2025 · 17/09/2024 15:31

TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 14:57

Well, it doesn't appear equal from the replies. I don't see the same judgemental assumptions being made about slim women or see all of society's problems being laid at their door. I see some cruel comments and some bullying, which happens across the spectrum to many people based on different physical attributes. But I don't see the same condemnation, the same moral panic or the same dehumanisation taking place on a wide scale. I don't see that slim women are widely considered stupid, selfish, disgusting and immoral the way that fat people are. There is a real difference in the way slim and fat people are perceived and treated, certainly in the way they're written about on this forum. That's not to say slim women should be fair game for unkindness, but we are talking about very different scales.

Whenever there is a news segment about the obsesity-"pandemic" (as though it's contatious like covid) you always see footage of headless (if they are lucky) fat people. I sure hope that one day that won't be me. I still have to show my face at work the next day.

I have never seen them do that to skinny people. Even if the topic is annorexia, it's treated much more humanely and people who have or had annorexia are interviewed and invited to share their experiences and their feelings. I have never seen them do the same for fat people. We are protrait as walking diseases and examples of moral failing. It's really dehumanizing.

SpudleyLass · 17/09/2024 15:31

TinyRowboats · 17/09/2024 15:29

And yet it does. Statistics show us that lower socioeconomic status is correlated with obesity, whether you think it's valid or not. It's just a fact.

But not directly.

Let's be honest, people who can afford excess calories, aren't that impoverished.

Serencwtch · 17/09/2024 15:32

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 14:31

What's skinny shaming? During PE in the changing rooms having a group of girls hide your clothes so you're standing there in your underwear having taken off your PE kit, and then laughing at your 'twiglet legs.'
Choosing to have a salad for lunch in the canteen at school, being told I was 'making others feel uncomfortable by my lifestyle choices.'
Being told I look like a roadmap with visible 'speed bumps' when people were seeing my collar bones through my skin, when I was actually having chemotherapy at 23 due to cancer.
Being told at the age of 12 I would never succeed in being a gymnast as I don't have the 'structure' to take the injuries.
Being called a rake.
Being told my pregnancy wasn't a 'proper pregnancy' and I must've been 'starving my unborn baby' due to the fact I had a small bump. She came out at 7lb 4oz.
Being told I would be blown away by the wind.
Scoffed at and having an audience when I ate a cookie at a work place as everyone thought I either don't eat, or only eat leaves.
Being accused of being bulimic, when in actual fact me puking in the toilet was due to me just having had a round of chemo.

I could go on forever. But there's a few. But these are all fine and acceptable, as 'at least I was slim.' So many on here have proven my point already.

May I add, at all stages in life I have always been a healthy weight, never had an underweight or low BMI.

That all sounds like bullying to be honest & definitely not normal. The girls in the changing room at school weren't 'skinny shaming' they were outright bullies

I'm at the bottom end of healthy weight (BMI 18/19) and had anorexia as a teenager/early 20's and never experienced anything like that.

Obese people (many also battling eating disorders) face a very different type of judgement & discrimination.

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