Am I the only one who thinks Trumps assassination attempts were a set up ?

[Snowdrops17]

I dunno I genuinely think Trump is either unhinged enough or stupid enough to set up two association attempts in order to try win the election ? Anyone else ?

The second one definitely. All those guns and the would be assassin couldn't hit a barn door 😳

Don't you think a bullet grazing so close to your head is a big deal?

I mean who would be able to deal with that?

And if you think it was a set up why would the FBI go along with it?

(Haven’t read the whole thread.) Title aside, this piece is a good rundown of why it’s, to say the least, extremely unlikely.

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/you-have-to-be-an-absolute-lunatic

A few excerpts:

”At the time of the assassination attempt Trump had a comfortable lead over Joe Biden, whose campaign appeared to be collapsing. You’re going to throw an enormously risky Hail Mary like this when every national and swing state poll shows that you’re in a commanding position in the race? Why?”

”The FBI and Secret Service have both confirmed the conventional narrative of events. The FBI and Secret Service are two organizations that I trust a little less than I do the Weekly World News, but why would they participate in a brazen and illegal Trump campaign operation? While the Democrats control the executive branch? For what purpose? Why would the Secret Service consent to take part in an operation that made them look so remarkably incompetent? How would the Secret Service control the actions of the local police? Were the local police in on it, too?”

“To reiterate, the shooter is a real person, and we know that from documentary evidence, from testimonials by people who knew him, from video evidence, and from his online presence. We know where he went to school and when. He’s not some Manchurian Candidate-style automaton or a secret CIA asset or whatever. So… what’s the deal? We have a very young young man, two years past his high school reunion [sic], with no military or espionage experience and (evidently) very limited ability to use his rifle. Why was he chosen for this job? Why would he agree to take part in a suicide mission? Was he really so fanatically loyal to the Trump reelection effort that he’d sacrifice his life at 20? Or perhaps you think he’s a patsy, that he didn’t really understand what he was getting himself into. How big of an idiot was he, then? He’s lying on a roof, exposed to fire, surrounded by armed law enforcement agents and thousands of witnesses. He can’t have been so stupid as to think he was leaving there alive. So, like… how did all of this work? Did they contact some school shooter outreach program and find a willing participant?”

Oh right so it wasn't a set up after all - it's just that the bullet only grazed his ear? Got it

Yeah, I think it probably nicked the edge of his ear. I scraped the side of my ear once and although there was a lot of blood, it healed fast.

Regardless of where the bullet hit, it did in fact injure him, and he could have easily died if the bullet had hit another inch or two closer.

The FBI did confirm Trump was hit by a bullet, after Wray had said there was a question whether it was a bullet or shrapnel.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jackson-christopher-wray-cb780b9d1a078f0be4191682e75101cf

If these were indeed staged events I have no doubt that it'd be quickly discovered by FBI in the course of their investigation. Trump's campaign are notably abysmal at planning anything, I doubt they could organize a phony assassination attempt without leaving a trail of evidence.

Also, Trump was miles out ahead in the polls at the time of the first one (it was before Biden dropped out). Why take the huge risks associated with staging an assassination attempt, and potentially being exposed for it (and likely be criminally liable for the deceased rally-goers death) when he was already comfortably winning?

I never ever said I thought first one was. I just have major questions about the narrative from Trump and his supporters and something does feel off to me, but maybe that's because Mr Trump can't be believed.

Was it a shooting attempt, yes. Was Trump's ear "pierced" by a bullet, his words. Nope. Did he "take a bullet". Nope. Exaggerating for effect, minimum.

I shall take myself off to Bogrom, Alaska as penance for my cynicism.

In the grand scheme of Trump's exaggerations, describing a bullet as "piercing" his ear as opposed to "grazing" it is about as mild and inconsequential as it gets.

Another lie in the piles and piles of them isn't it.

I mean if you accept it wasn't a set up @SuePreemly this is a nothing don't you think up against being shot at and hit so closely to fatal

I don't know if it's even really a lie tbh. I mean, it did pierce the skin of his ear. I think you're quibbling semantics.

He has told many, many lies - many of which have been blatant, dangerous, absurd and baseless. I don't think this is one.

Yes however, it's a lie which can be utilised if he loses. After January 6th events, the rhetoric around Trump "taking a bullet" for his country etc could come back in an awful way in the not too distant future.
Democrats tried to shoot me
Democrats didn't stop assassinations
I took a bullet
I was shot for this county
I won't be silenced, neither will you

It can very very easily be whipped right up into a frenzy and that is why this stuff is dangerous.

The Bogrom/Canada tap things are just the ravings of a delulu old man. This stuff has potential for inciting violence.

Why do you think this isn't showing it's not a set up?

The FBI did confirm Trump was hit by a bullet, after Wray had said there was a question whether it was a bullet or shrapnel.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jackson-christopher-wray-cb780b9d1a078f0be4191682e75101cf

If these were indeed staged events I have no doubt that it'd be quickly discovered by FBI in the course of their investigation.

Yup.

And there's no love lost between Trump and the FBI. I'm sure many would have loved to have revealed it as a hoax (which probably would have resulted in Trump and others involved being charged with murder, conspiracy and alike, given the man who died).

Even if Trump had loads to benefit from the first assassination attempt - which he did not, at the time - we're talking about a campaign who accidentally organized a major press conference in a back alley behind an "adult" store, because they confused the Four Seasons Hotel with a small business called Four Seasons Landscaping - no way are they pulling off stage assassination attempts without the FBI uncovering something in the investigation.

I mean I am cynical about both sides here. I suspect Jo Biden has staged a political situation with his debate "performance" and COVID being spectacularly well timed for after the RNC etc etc. it's terribly convenient timing to step down and one suspects planning of it.

Similarly the Epstein filed went off the news very fast the day of the first shooting too

And ever since Trump was a disaster on stage at the debate and elsewhere these "threats" are ramping up.... to take the heat of his incoherence and lying? I dunno, it all seems rather convenient too.

Policiticans are almost without exception, shits. Trump is just more dangerous than most and I wouldn't put anything past him, with his history.

That's true, although no Rudy to balls things up whilst sweating off his "just for men" this time 🤣

The first one no.
Second one yes.

Honestly, I think this just shows that you're incredibly conspiratorially-minded. This is all a bit loopy.

It does seem to go round in circles

People post the FBI response and still this

I'm leaning that way too. First one was definitely "made the most of" for effect and was a convenient shiny object to distract from the Epstein Files.

Second one seems more like the competence of the Trump campaign actually

You should be ashamed of yourself. I thought conspiracy theories were for MAGA types? Of course the double standards of the left.

Still beats the absence of standards of the American right!

Oh I don't doubt both sides are up to shady shenanigans. It's definitely never exclusively one sided! I mean Trump is an awful, awful candidate but i have no qualms whatsoever in thinking both sides are equally as underhanded in their political movings

I think so too, he is definitely stupid enough and unhinged enough to do it, also I doubt he would care about people getting hurt in the process.

Also, can the second one even he called an assassination attempt? The dude was there for 12 hours, had no line of site to trump and never took a shot. It's America, some weirdo camped out on a golf course with a gun is a Tuesday, not an assassination attempt.

He has said he could personally shoot someone in the street and get away with it. I think his contempt for all human life other than his own would allow him to ignore the collateral damage of an assassination attempt.