Am I the only one who thinks Trumps assassination attempts were a set up ?

[Snowdrops17]

I dunno I genuinely think Trump is either unhinged enough or stupid enough to set up two association attempts in order to try win the election ? Anyone else ?

Well Trump himself said the bullet pierced his ear.

Jackson that it took a chunk out of the top of his ear.

Either of those and it still wouldn't be healed now! Anyone who has a cartilage piercing will tell you it's 6 months of healing and yet two weeks later no hole, no scabbing, no swelling, no bruising of the ear or surrounding tissue. It's wasn't even vaguely "recent tissue injury pink" a fortnight later.

I've got a glass cut on my easier to heal limb tissue from June.... which is still pink and I'm significantly younger than Trump.

So the bullet neither pierced, nor took anything out the top of his ear, as Trump and his wacko doctor put onto truth social. They lied about it.

At no point has Trump said the would damaged the cartilage in his ear.

I think the second one was something that happens all the time. Nutter hiding in bushes. Not exactly an imminent attack.

First one - smells off. Maybe it was all genuine. This is the problem with trump being a lying shithead, no one believes him about anything.

He literally tweeted/truth social posted this:

“I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin"

The upper part of the ear is entirely made of cartilage.

Either he's lying, or he's some sort of reptile that can regrow body parts in a fortnight. No bullet injury piercing the upper part of his right ear would have healed with NO marks in a fortnight, which was when he was on telly, no bandage on that ear for the first time. Literally not a scratch on him.

Conspiracy theorists, by the nature of their arguments, can never and will never prove an argument. It’s why they do it, for endless discussions going round and round.

Being logical and reasonable, is never part of it. It just attention seeking. Constant attention seeking, because they lack depth of character and think this somehow makes them interesting.

They suddenly feel relevant to the world, feel special, because they believe they can see something that others can’t. They see the truth.
It’s not only sad, but leads to dangerous thinking.

As the FBI themselves have stated, the bullet hit Trump's ear. Logic and the footage suggest it grazed his ear.

Are you saying there was no bullet? Or that he wasn't hit? Or what?

Let me guess, it all just feels "off".

Still intrigued as to why the FBI, Secret Service and the Democrats would all happily collude in the supposed charade.

No, there was a bullet, that's clear. There was a shooter, there were clearly shots fired.

He definitely was not hit or injured anywhere near as badly as was made out by himself or his team.

There's no way on earth his body could heal like it did from his self-proclaimed bullet piercing/ripping through the skin" in 2 weeks without leaving a trace, unless it was the teeniest weeniest scratch and very definitely not what he tweeted

So, he's lying, or exaggerating to make himself look better. And if he's lying/exaggerating about this, what else? Well he's proven time and time again he lies. Funnily enough, he's cried wolf so often now lots of people are reasonably questioning whether they can trust a single thing that comes out of his mouth.

Where did all the blood come from?

In terms of the first one, I have a real objection to shutting down discussion of what happened because someone died, and the idea that it's in bad taste. We shouldn't shy away from difficult questions just because they are unpleasant.

Trump is a convicted felon with multiple further trials pending. We know that he's corrupt, that he's a rapist (with a lot of other women also having made complaints). He's boasted and made flippant remarks that he could shoot people in a crowded street and it wouldn't affect his popularity.

Whether it was a set up is a very valid question, but I think it's giving trump too much credit to think that a possible death of an audience member would deter him. Did he care about the rioters he incited or the people that got hurt then?

Why should e give him a shield of decency when he hasn't acted decently?

I'd like to see independent evidence as to his ear wound and it's source rather then just a personal doctor. For now though, I'm on the fence about the first attempt. I certainly don't think it's past trump too do it (he could have nicked his own ear when on the floor) but just because someone is capable of something doesn't make him guilty. There is also no shortage of people that would want him dead.

I'd like to see independent evidence as to his ear wound and it's source rather then just a personal doctor.

So would I. He wore a bandage just once I believe.
Years ago my DH fell and cut the top of his ear against the shower, it took literally months to heal and he still has the scar

Of course with Trump, it's what might have been. I just wish he didn't lie so much. Never mind his bonkers supporters stuck bandages and sanitary towels on their ears in support at rallies

So you don't think a bullet hit his ear although it happened on live television and has been corroborated by everyone from the FBI, Secret Services, media to eye witnesses?

Quote from head of the FBI Christopher Wray:

During a House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, July 24, Wray provided new details about the investigation into the assassination attempt and revealed that the agency is not certain the wound was caused by a bullet.

“There’s some question about whether or not it’s a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear,” he said.

So no, the FBI have categorically not said he was definitely hit by a bullet.

Also, I have rewatched the shooting footage live from the telly.

None of his security details have earpieces in.

Why would that be? Seems weird.

He said it clipped his ear and there was a lot of blood because ears bleed a lot making it appear worse than it was. Where's the exaggeration there? Or are you making false assumptions about what he said because you don't like him?

Yes they have. That's from nearly two months ago. Grow up and stop lying based off your biases.

I quoted his truth social post. Those are his words.

Has Christopher Wray amended his statement since the hearing?

I genuinely have no idea if this is the case

FBI deputy director said on 30th July that Trump was definitely hit by a bullet.

Why would being hit by shrapnel rather than a bullet make any difference anyway as to whether it was a set up or not?

I'm not saying categorically it was a set up.

Just that things seem odd about it, like the security details not wearing earpieces, and the Uber rapid healing of what trump himself and his doctor called a piercing injury to cartilage. That bit certainly doesn't add up to what is obviously visible to the world in terms of his seemingly miraculous healing.

Can you link where that statement was made? I know they confirmed it was not a piece of teleprompter that hit him.

You can't blame people for questioning the statements of Trump, and the happenings around a man who has proven himself time and again to be a liar in order to gain for himself.

I have no skin in the game and am very much an observer from the outside, but from where I am sitting he looks utterly unhinged and nothing he says helps that. Faucets in the mountainsides from Canada for California's water, eating pets....why not lie about "being shot" too?

He last night said Bagram was in Alaska (it's in Afghanistan) and said it's as big as Saudi Arabia 😮

He's a stupid and dangerous fool. But I don't want him shot at

No, nobody wants him shot at. Firstly, whatever we think of him he's a human, and has a family.

Also, the political ramifications of him being really hurt or killed don't bear thinking about

@SuePreemly I was wondering about this from pp

Where did all the blood come from?

I went back and looked at the video footage

Trump goes down onto floor to along with lots of men in suits and sunglasses

There's a hanky/cloth which I assume is red with "blood"

But when he stands up and is doing the whole "fight, fight" thing you can clearly see his right ear and it's not bleeding anywhere near as profusely as the blood soaked rag would have you believe. In fact I can't see any evidence of blood at all near that ear.

Have a watch on the various news channel videos, I've had another look because I am now doubting my own gut instinct but look at the screenshot of when he gets up and is removed from the stage. If his ear was shot, there would be a lot of blood and someone holding something against the injury to stem the flow.....and there isn't 🤷‍♀️

I tried to screenshot it but it's off my phone so the quality is naff, sorry.

I mean there was a shooter and bullets and it was awful but I a "bullet piercing his ear" (Trumps words), I am skeptical.

Why would this be said?

FBI deputy director said on 30th July that Trump was definitely hit by a bullet.

Where did he say this?

If so, fair enough but a mere graze hardly justifies Trump saying a bullet "pierced" his ear, and that he "took a bullet" for his country.

It also denigrates those who did.

Trump is at the very least guilty of massive over exaggeration.