Am I the only one who thinks Trumps assassination attempts were a set up ?

[Snowdrops17]

I dunno I genuinely think Trump is either unhinged enough or stupid enough to set up two association attempts in order to try win the election ? Anyone else ?

1st one I can well believe was real. It seems to be a fluke that he survived.

2nd one I can well believe is a false flag event to get Trump back in the swell of support posts 1st event.

i’d also not find it difficult to believe that while the person arrested truly is anti trump but has been manipulated by Trumps side into doing it and given the tip off by someone he thought was also anti trump.

It was my first thought when I heard the news.

I do think the first attempt was genuine. But I do believe the second "assassination attempt" is a setup, to try and recoup some popularity after his poor performance at the debate.

He needs something to stop people talking about his truly dreadful debate performance.

His rhetoric on Haitians eating dogs in Ohio has stirred up white supremacists, bomb threats and civil unrest. He needs something to deflect attention.

Yes, I assume both ‘attempts’ were set up. Trump won’t care a fig that someone died.

Omg tangerine toddler 😂

Well it is America with endless shootings from the insane so they wouldnt need to set it up. Wouldn't it be easier to just sit and 5 minutes till the next lunatic with a weapon comes along

Nope, thought this since the first attempt. All it takes is a guy in prison (or at risk of being put in prison) who is known to be an excellent marksman, and who is willing to stage the assassination attempt in exchange for a promise of freedom or money or maybe his family's safety. He was never going to kill Trump, it was designed to be a near miss. Hence Trump's ultra chill reaction. Then the "assassin" was conveniently killed so there was zero risk of him ever telling anyone about it and telling the world what a crazy fucked-up asshole Trump truly is. I'd be willing to bet money the whole thing was a set up.

Has there been another?

I don't think the first was a set up. The only reason they didnt kill him is because he turned his head at the last second?

Whether it was real or not, Trump definitely wants to use it to frame himself as a brave and masculine leader. The Dems are doing the right thing by expressing mild sympathy then moving on.

What trump wants is for the thing to become controversial and a major talking point that steals oxygen from anything else.

His ear was entirely unharmed though.

It seems more fake than a man in a dress claiming he identifies as a female Kardashian while running a hostel for scammers at an office in 123 Fake Street.
The thing with the bullet that 'grazed his ear'. I was like give the man a daytime Emmy for least convincing dramatic performance!

The guy that has been arrested in Florida has no known military experience. He’s randomly been trying to arrange for people (mostly from Afghanistan) to go and fight in Ukraine.

He has a criminal record of offences in North Carolina between 2002 and 2010 ranging including carrying a concealed weapon, resisting arrest, driving without a licence and possession of stolen goods.

He sounds like a fantasist and not the type you’d want involved in a conspiracy- too risky and unreliable.

After just watching footage that's emerged from 2022 of the suspect I don't think it's a setup, he's clearly mentally unstable.

I don't believe there is any evidence at all this is the case with the first attempt, quite the opposite.

I suppose we'll see with the second.

But if you look at social media, YouTube, etc from the left in the US, there are people who are really really ramping up the scaremongering, and people who seem completely hysterical. You occasionally even see someone here on MN going on about how if Trump wins, he will turn the US into a military dictatorship, ship out anyone non-white, and do all kinds of other crazy stuff. So I also don't find it hard to imagine that there are people who think that this kind of assassination attempt is justified.

I think it is a little suspicious that when Trump seems to be moving the wrong way in the polls there is a failed assassination attempt. I wouldn't put anything past the man. He would agree to actually be assassinated if the fee was high enough.

Of course it's staged. He's absolutely crazy.

I'm old enough to remember Reagan being shot, there was nothing but alarm and sympathy from all quarters. It is interesting that so many people, not of the conspiracy theorist bent, are actually entertaining the thought that this is a Trump votewinning ploy because he's doing badly (myself included)

I honestly can't imagine that happening with a single other Presidential candidate, ever. It reflects what his reputation is and what he is thought capable of.

Al those guns and not one can hit a cows arse with a banjo

YANBU @Snowdrops17.

It was my first thought with the first attempt and now this second attempt. The SS were 300-500 yards from the suspect who had a high powered automatic rifle, even if it doesn’t have a lot of accuracy you can still do a lot of damage from a much greater distance. The SS were close enough to spot the barrel of the rifle with their eyes but the suspect had a scope which would massively increase visibility to more than the naked eye. Also, surely if someone is shot at twice in two months, then surely they would be considering gun control because clearly just being allowed to carry a gun isn’t enough of a deterrent. It only works if your reactions are quicker than theirs. You’ve been shot at twice in two months and you don’t think hmm maybe we shouldn’t allow people to pick up guns at Walmart when they pop out for some ranch dressing.

I hate feeling like a conspiracy theorist but look at all the unbelievable things that have actually happened - many of them revolving around Trump. Public trust is at an all time low.

My feeling too - first one was genuine, it gave him and his team the idea and this one a set up for PR purposes.

I'm not sure what to think. I don't think first one was a set up as someone died, the shooter was apparently a Republican voter (you'd have thought they'd find a patsy from The Other Side for a set up) and overall I think he'd be making a much bigger noise about it if it were a set up. I mean, Trump loves to play the victim as much as the bully, I'm not sure why he isn't constantly crowing that the government/Biden/Harris wanted him dead. Unless it was a genuine attempt and he actually feels some awkwardness the would-be assassin was a Republican. But at the same time he could just c totally lie about the guy's background and his supporters would believe him.

I'm wondering why no news at all of shooter's motives - investig ongoing I guess.

This one, well sounds like a bit of a random nutter - I don't think he was actually anywhere near Trump at the time. But tbh, if you're going to be a dangerous lunatic in a country full of dangerous lunatics with access to guns, this is what happens.

I think there is a chance that this second "attempt" is a set up. To show that the protection team have upped their game because this time they caught the culprit before shots were fired. I don't think the first one was.

The gunman in this second attempt has a criminal record. Perhaps he was on the hook for something else already and agreeing to do this would lower his sentence/provide financial reward to his family.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all and usually laugh at the absurdity of some things spouted. But it really was my immediate reaction when I heard this.

Jeez a father of two in the audience was KILLLED in the first assignation attempt.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your half baked tik tok theories though!

I’ve said it from the start.