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Am I the only one who thinks Trumps assassination attempts were a set up ?

227 replies

Snowdrops17 · 16/09/2024 09:33

I dunno I genuinely think Trump is either unhinged enough or stupid enough to set up two association attempts in order to try win the election ? Anyone else ?

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EasternStandard · 16/09/2024 12:34

notanotherusername2024 · 16/09/2024 12:08

A husband and father was slaughtered. Others were wounded. This is a horrifically inappropriate thread and an utterly deranged viewpoint.

Agree

ThanksHunPenneys · 16/09/2024 12:40

I fully believe he's such a narcissist that he does think a bullet wouldn't kill him so he could easily set up a shooter to make it look like an assassination attempt - that's his spin anyway.
The thing is.... I'm worried these attempts will gain him more support. I'm really worried about this election.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 16/09/2024 12:45

No you're not the only one.

I doubt he had a hand in arranging it though. No doubt his publicity team will have.

SweetSakura · 16/09/2024 12:48

This second attempt, yes, it seems suspicious timing.

Equally he said some vile things in that debate which may have been enough to make someone want to try

MargaretThursday · 16/09/2024 12:50

I didn't think he was actually hit by a bullet then first time. Wasn't he hit by falling glass?

How many assassination attempts miss rather than are thwarted, I wonder?

CheerfulBunny · 16/09/2024 12:51

He's nutty as a fruitcake and so desperate for the oxygen of publicity that he'd do pretty much anything so yeah, I'd say it was a possibility. The thought that people actually vote for him willingly really scares me.

quoque · 16/09/2024 12:55

It looks very shady at first glance, but both would-be assassins have been die-Republican and mentally ill. I don't think that someone setting up assassination attempts would choose that kind of candidate as a patsy over an illegal immigrant/"antifa" type. At the very least, a registered Democrat.

You'd choose someone without great understanding, in desperate need of money, recently illegally over the border etc. and pay them to do it instead.

I do honestly think both attempts have been real, and are just indicative of how unhinged gun law is in the US.

FruitFlyPie · 16/09/2024 12:55

I don't think the second one was a set up because the gunman would have been shot if so. There's no way the secret service would leave him alive to rat them out later.

Momtotwokids · 16/09/2024 12:57

You people are crazy. I dislike Trump but the Democrats hate him enough to rile people up to kill him.

EdgeOfSixty · 16/09/2024 13:04

Momtotwokids · 16/09/2024 12:57

You people are crazy. I dislike Trump but the Democrats hate him enough to rile people up to kill him.

And Trump doesn't rile people up?

Cornettoninja · 16/09/2024 13:17

Momtotwokids · 16/09/2024 12:57

You people are crazy. I dislike Trump but the Democrats hate him enough to rile people up to kill him.

I don’t think you can lay this at the democrats door. Trumps entire rhetoric relies on division, fear, hate and conspiracy. He and his team have created this atmosphere that validates people (on both sides and probably neither) all too happy to take him up on the challenge.

Snowdrops17 · 16/09/2024 15:47

Momtotwokids · 16/09/2024 12:57

You people are crazy. I dislike Trump but the Democrats hate him enough to rile people up to kill him.

The man cause an insurrection and people died and later took their own lives because of it ...

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/09/2024 18:57

I agree 100%, @Cornettoninja! He has only himself to blame.

bigvig · 16/09/2024 19:01

You do realise OP that Trump was hit by a bullet in the first attempt and someone died. I don't think he'd set that up do you? Really?

Cherrysoup · 16/09/2024 19:13

bigvig · 16/09/2024 19:01

You do realise OP that Trump was hit by a bullet in the first attempt and someone died. I don't think he'd set that up do you? Really?

Honestly, I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of Trump possibilities, rather horrifyingly. His behaviour during his tenure and since has not been the sanest.

biscuitandcake · 16/09/2024 19:33

Cherrysoup · 16/09/2024 19:13

Honestly, I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of Trump possibilities, rather horrifyingly. His behaviour during his tenure and since has not been the sanest.

Yes, and that's making everyone else, including those on the opposite side to him politically, crazy.
You can disagree with the crazy man, without falling into the trap of believing conspiracy theories yourself.
Of course, as always, anything is possible. But by far the most likely explanation is that in a country full of guns, where crazy people regularly shoot other people, during a highly charged election with ill feeling and crazy people on all sides - is that a crazy guy really did sneak onto Trumps golf course with a gun probably with the intention of killing him.

If a man with a gun had tried or had succeeded in shooting his own ex-wife or Walmart Co-worker's no one would be making up alternative explanations. It would be one of those things that happens all the time and gets ignored. An alternative explanation feels more likely when it's a big important person because it feels like the explanation can't be that mundane. But that's a fallacy.

tobee · 16/09/2024 19:40

bigvig · 16/09/2024 19:01

You do realise OP that Trump was hit by a bullet in the first attempt and someone died. I don't think he'd set that up do you? Really?

I think he's far too cowardly to take the risk

HeliotropePJs · 16/09/2024 19:50

If we're going for crazy conspiracy theories, I think it's much more likely that it's an inside job from people who desperately don't want Trump to win. Or, you know, that unhinged people have bought into the constant comparisons to Hitler or the devil himself. It was only a matter of time before someone believed it and decided that it was their mission in life to eliminate the so-called threat to democracy.

BustingBaoBun · 16/09/2024 20:00

People are deranged about Trump. He's been president before, the world didn't end
No of course the world doesn't end but a second attempt at it, the presidency, with project 2025 in the background, is going to tilt the world in a direction we really don't want, we will be in an unstable world

EasternStandard · 16/09/2024 20:03

tobee · 16/09/2024 19:40

I think he's far too cowardly to take the risk

Tbf getting shot in the side of the head isn't something many would do. I mean it doesn't take 'cowardly' to not want to do that

HRTQueen · 16/09/2024 20:08

I don’t think it’s a set up, not because I think he wouldn’t stoop so low he absolutely would but there is simply no need for him to he just needs to rant to stoke the fire

America is extremely divided and there is no real gun control many very violent and unwell people have guns

more surprising is that there have not been more attempts not just to Trump but to President Biden and Harris

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/09/2024 20:12

HappyShake · 16/09/2024 11:32

Jeez a father of two in the audience was KILLLED in the first assignation attempt.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your half baked tik tok theories though!

This doesn't preclude a conspiracy though.

There is a theory the Lee Harvey Oswald did actually shoot at JFK with intent to kill him, as he'd been set up to take the fall, so how to make it more convincing that have him actually attempt it? The same theory posits that LHO did not in fact actually hit JFK, and that JFK was shot by someone else in on the conspiracy, but LHO took the fall nonetheless. LHO himself (who was not just some random, deranged lunatic) hinted at this on camera prior to his murder.

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility something similar occurred with the first attempt on Trump, i.e. the assassin himself thought he was genuinely attempting to kill Trump, but was acting having been set up to fail, and the fact a bystander killed and others injured simply collateral damage.

I wouldn't rule anything out. The US is one of the worst offenders on the planet for underhandedness, assassination, false-flag, and generally behaving without regard for any sort of law or convention. It's what the CIA does, and why the CIA exists.

I find it extremely odd that the FBI are seemingly satisfied that the only person verifying Trump's supposed injury from the first attempt is a Dr who has no licence to practice and was chosen by Trump himself. No genuinely impartial appraisal of it whatsoever.

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BustingBaoBun · 16/09/2024 20:22

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/09/2024 20:12

This doesn't preclude a conspiracy though.

There is a theory the Lee Harvey Oswald did actually shoot at JFK with intent to kill him, as he'd been set up to take the fall, so how to make it more convincing that have him actually attempt it? The same theory posits that LHO did not in fact actually hit JFK, and that JFK was shot by someone else in on the conspiracy, but LHO took the fall nonetheless. LHO himself (who was not just some random, deranged lunatic) hinted at this on camera prior to his murder.

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility something similar occurred with the first attempt on Trump, i.e. the assassin himself thought he was genuinely attempting to kill Trump, but was acting having been set up to fail, and the fact a bystander killed and others injured simply collateral damage.

I wouldn't rule anything out. The US is one of the worst offenders on the planet for underhandedness, assassination, false-flag, and generally behaving without regard for any sort of law or convention. It's what the CIA does, and why the CIA exists.

I find it extremely odd that the FBI are seemingly satisfied that the only person verifying Trump's supposed injury from the first attempt is a Dr who has no licence to practice and was chosen by Trump himself. No genuinely impartial appraisal of it whatsoever.

This ^

And I really don't understand why there hasn't been more interviews and media about his family and people he mixed with. There has almost been a blanket on the whole thing. Ditto the poor victim's family

Then of course..why was his ear injured, but fine and dandy playing golf, then a bandage added for a rally
It's weird

BalmyLemons · 16/09/2024 20:33

I know he's an idiot but I don't think even he's stupid enough to let someone shoot him in the ear. Even if he tried to remain perfectly still, a sneeze, a hiccup, a shiver, etc. could make him move the couple of centimetres necessary for that bullet to kill him. No. Nobody is that stupid.