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DH making fun of me for being “thick”

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IneffableCat · 13/09/2024 09:56

DS thinks it’s hilarious. I’ll try to be brief - DH around a year ago made up a name for me, it’s a made up word to represent a “stupid” person. He used this word and mimicked my voice to act out what I do every day, added a “mentally challenged” sounding laugh for good measure. DS found it hilarious. I initially tried to laugh along and be a “good sport” however this continued for days and I had to tell him to stop.

He did stop but now DS (teen) is fixated (he’s on the spectrum) on the made up insult and calls me it from the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to sleep. He comes up to me and whispers it in my ear and does the “stupid” sounding laugh incessantly.

Last night I begged him to stop (told him it wasn’t appropriate to call me that) he was sarcastic in his response saying “aww, is little Mammy upset? Is she going to cry?” Etc.

I snapped at my husband then - told him this was all his fault and I was sick of hearing that stupid f?!ing word and stupid laugh. I really lost it. 😔

DH blamed DS for causing trouble and stirring but basically took no responsibility for having initially made up the insult.

For context - I am also on the spectrum, my processing times are slower than neurotypicals but I am not thick. I have been called “thick” in other environments in my life which my husband knows I’m sensitive about.

DH text saying that he’s sorry that DS keeps saying that word but I can’t keep blaming him.

OP posts:
RuggedHairyTortoise · 13/09/2024 12:34

DonnaBanana · 13/09/2024 12:21

This is disgusting and cruel and unless your DH is prepared to make amends for this ASAP in a big way, I would be gone!!

That said I am a big fan of roasting people I know with insults and bitchy banter but there is a time and place and it can't come from a place of cruelty. It also has to be well timed to actually be funny and you have to be ready to accept it coming back in the other direction! It doesn't sound like this applies to your horrible son or husband.

Why do you roast people with bitchy insults? They might put a brave face on it but I suspect the only person being amused is you. used to have a friend who did the same and thought it was hilarious. Well, the things we said between ourselves about what a bitch she was- she may not have liked it. And she is now completely frozen out and for some years and does not seem to understand why.

DontCallAnyoneAnIdiotOrYouWillBeBannedAgain · 13/09/2024 12:37

DH is a STBEX - I am getting everything organised and plan to leave eventually. I have been in contact with Women’s Aid and am putting together a plan to safely leave DH.

The D does stand for "darling" or "dear", not Dickhead btw. Please for the love of sanity, stop using the ridiculous "DH"

Ginkypig · 13/09/2024 12:41

IneffableCat · 13/09/2024 11:10

Thanks for all your replies. I agree with them all, it really does feel like I’m being bullied in my own home. I will try immediate consequences for DS when he calls me that. He’s a gamer/loves his phone so having that taken away will have the most impact.

Those who asked how DH behaves in other aspects - what I have mentioned here is just the tip of the iceberg. It’s not actually one of the worst things he’s said or done to me.

DH is a STBEX - I am getting everything organised and plan to leave eventually. I have been in contact with Women’s Aid and am putting together a plan to safely leave DH. I did feel like just walking out last night but this isn’t feasible and I would look like the unreasonable one.

Just waiting for a property to go through and I’ll be gone thankfully.

I’m so glad to see this post.

when you first started the thread I was worried that this would be a thread about a toxic at the very least but probably abusive marriage but that you would only be focusing on this one small (in the sense of the bigger picture) issue and I was worried about how to express that to you but this post has shown you are aware and on top of working towards leaving.

first well done you are doing great! I hope one day you will be starting a thread on whatever your new (better) life looks like

second, you are neurodivergent and not thick which you have mentioned but it’s worth hearing it again. I can tell just from your posts that you are an intelligent person who has great insight.

third, I know it’s hard as you’re son doesn’t really understand the gravity of what is going on. He thinks of it as banter most likely and has had it modelled that you are the target of any of this stuff but it’s almost certain that he probably doesn’t have the malice behind it that stbex does.
if it’s possible I think having a proper sit down when it’s just the two of you so dad isn’t there to manipulate it. Explain that it’s not ok for dad to do this either and while you know he is trying to be funny he is actually hurting your feelings and when you love someone part of that is listening to when someone tells you how something upsets them. Explain that you know he doesn’t mean it but what he is doing and because he won’t stop it is like bullying. Use examples you know will hit home with him that maybe have happened to him (without upsetting him obviously) so he can see it through his own experience as it can be hard for some neurodivergent people to understand something external from themselves.
obviously you know better than me about his comprehension skills so you will need to find the correct language for him.

good luck @IneffableCat im rooting for you.

Isthisit22 · 13/09/2024 12:43

So glad you’re leaving. God knows what other vile stuff your waste of space STBEX has taught / role modelled for your poor son. Please get him away.

pikkumyy77 · 13/09/2024 12:45

LBFseBrom · 13/09/2024 12:11

You're not unreasonable to be fed up with this, op. Some comments are funny the first time but tiresome after a while. Next time you hear it, threaten both of them! They don't know their own strength and it is embarrassing if they say it in front of others.

This is a complete misreading of the situation. The husband definitely “knows his own strength “ and the sin is not far behind as a deliberate choice to be an abuser.

Bangwam1 · 13/09/2024 12:46

If you want to know more, Charliechalk12 on TikTok is incredible x Good luck. I hope this helps.

Surprise50 · 13/09/2024 12:47

IneffableCat · 13/09/2024 11:41

He’s only 12 (soon to be 13) so it would shared custody with ex and I couldn’t just leave him. Women’s Aid have mentioned counselling for children who witnessed DA. DS unfortunately is starting to copy DH’s actions and when corrected says - well, Daddy calls you names, why is it ok for Daddy to call you names etc?

I would respond with “it’s not ok for daddy to call me names, it’s wrong, it’s hurtful, it’s unkind” or “it’s wrong, it’s abusive” IF you think he can understand and cope with that.

ScribblingPixie · 13/09/2024 12:48

Good luck, OP. I hope you're not there too long. Counselling for your son sounds like an essential.

Sooverwork · 13/09/2024 12:48

They are both bullying cunt£. Yes both of them.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/09/2024 12:50

Your husband is a nasty bastard. What sort of person takes pleasure in belittling someone they are supposed to love?
I would be considering my future very carefully.

StopStartStop · 13/09/2024 12:54

Surprise50 · 13/09/2024 11:37

Not sure why the rolly eyes .. I’m not the only one to say your comment is stereotypical and wrong.

Thank you for demonstrating so effectively that not all nds are decent sorts. Oh, you could try a neurotypical phrase... 'Don't be a dick'.

StasisMom · 13/09/2024 12:56

I'm so glad you are getting out - best of luck to you and a happy future!

SnugCoralFinch · 13/09/2024 12:59

These posts make me so relived to be single. I couldn’t be with someone who behaved like this. This isn’t how a person who cares about someone behaves.

oakleaffy · 13/09/2024 13:25

This is just appalling @IneffableCat

Your husband clearly has no respect for you and now your son is following suit.

Your husband and son are bullying you.

I'd be looking at leaving.

Acornsoup · 13/09/2024 13:29

Women's aid are amazing OP :)

GreatBigCat · 13/09/2024 13:32

SnugCoralFinch · 13/09/2024 12:59

These posts make me so relived to be single. I couldn’t be with someone who behaved like this. This isn’t how a person who cares about someone behaves.

I find it so weird when people say this. As if the only alternative to being single is being with a shit partner.

I’ve been with DH for over 25 years. Never once has he treated me like this. He does everything he can to make my life easier and better.

Today is my day off work, and last night I noticed he did two loads of washing and vacuumed. I asked him why, because I could do it tomorrow and he just said Well, now you don’t have to. Some men are keepers.

SpidersAreShitheads · 13/09/2024 13:33

Ginkypig · 13/09/2024 12:41

I’m so glad to see this post.

when you first started the thread I was worried that this would be a thread about a toxic at the very least but probably abusive marriage but that you would only be focusing on this one small (in the sense of the bigger picture) issue and I was worried about how to express that to you but this post has shown you are aware and on top of working towards leaving.

first well done you are doing great! I hope one day you will be starting a thread on whatever your new (better) life looks like

second, you are neurodivergent and not thick which you have mentioned but it’s worth hearing it again. I can tell just from your posts that you are an intelligent person who has great insight.

third, I know it’s hard as you’re son doesn’t really understand the gravity of what is going on. He thinks of it as banter most likely and has had it modelled that you are the target of any of this stuff but it’s almost certain that he probably doesn’t have the malice behind it that stbex does.
if it’s possible I think having a proper sit down when it’s just the two of you so dad isn’t there to manipulate it. Explain that it’s not ok for dad to do this either and while you know he is trying to be funny he is actually hurting your feelings and when you love someone part of that is listening to when someone tells you how something upsets them. Explain that you know he doesn’t mean it but what he is doing and because he won’t stop it is like bullying. Use examples you know will hit home with him that maybe have happened to him (without upsetting him obviously) so he can see it through his own experience as it can be hard for some neurodivergent people to understand something external from themselves.
obviously you know better than me about his comprehension skills so you will need to find the correct language for him.

good luck @IneffableCat im rooting for you.

This is a really good post.

I’m autistic and I have two autistic DC, a DD and a DS. My DS is a really sweet, kind boy ( how his teachers described him, not just a mother’s biased view 😂 ) but a few times he’s come out with “aawww….let me play you a sad song on the world’s smallest violin.”

Turns out it’s a bloody line from SpongeBob SquarePants. My DS is 14 yrs but much younger developmentally, and he knows this line is in SpongeBob and “ funny “ - the problem is that he doesn’t have the social skills to understand when it’s appropriate and when it’s not. He’s struggling to understand why it’s supposed to be funny when it’s in SpongeBob but not funny when used in real life.

Also, there’s a thing within autism called echolalia which is where words, phrases, or sounds get “stuck” in the head and are repeated regularly, and often when inappropriate.

We don’t know where OP’s 12 yr old ND son is developmentally. He may have these words stuck in his head, or it may be a routine for him (which can be hard to break). He may not really understand what’s being said, or why it’s so unacceptable - especially as he’s seen it modelled by a trustworthy figure and then accepted and laughed about by OP (when she was trying to mask her feelings).

There may be other elements that are relevant too but the neurodivergence means you can’t simply dismiss the son as a “little shit” etc. He needs support to understand that this isn’t OK and boundaries in place to stop the behaviour. If you aren’t ND and don’t parent ND children, it might be hard to appreciate that things aren’t always as straightforward.

OP, is there something that your DS really treasures? A special interest that he’s very protective about? Or a really beloved Teddy or soft toy (quite common with ND kids, even teens!)?

If so, I would explain to your DS that mocking is unkind. Tell him it’s hurtful. Ask him how would he feel if you said <insert appropriate mocking comment about his favourite thing> Say you would never do that because it’s mean and spiteful. Tell him that Daddy shouldn’t be saying those things because they’re also mean. Keep it factual and unemotional. It will be easier for him to process.

If he says those words/sounds to you again, instantly shut it down unemotionally. “No thank you, I don’t want to hear that.” Physically walk away from him if you need to. You need to break the routine of him saying it and you responding emotionally. Sort of grey rock it every time it’s said.

If he continues, only you will know if he’s doing it deliberately and needs consequences, or whether it’s an echolalia that he’s struggling to shake.

Consistency and firmness are key. We don’t find consequences achieve much with our ND DC - but your DS may be different. For us, breaking a cycle and not giving the desired response, combined with a simplified explanation of why something isn’t acceptable, works the best. Removing privileges etc doesn’t break an autistic habit and doesn’t resolve the issue, at least that’s what we’ve found.

Glad you have an escape plan. You don’t deserve to be called thick or mocked because of neurodivergence. I hope you can get out soon - I think that will also improve things between you and your DS too. Would love to hear how you get on if you feel able to update 💐

NoWayRose · 13/09/2024 13:36

Your husband also needs to sit down with your son and say clearly ‘I understand that I started this but what I said was very wrong. I made a mistake.’ Now from now on that word is completely banned in this house, with consequences

Maray1967 · 13/09/2024 13:39

Whatifitallgoesright · 13/09/2024 10:02

I think that 'thick' people are unable to cook, clean, wash clothes, give lifts, help with homework etc. I'd start with that.

This would be my response as well. They need to ‘feel’ the consequences of their words. Tine to have some fun, OP. What can you stop doing that will have the biggest impact? Start there.

badgerpatrol · 13/09/2024 13:53

So you have a disability and your husband bullies you because of it and mocks you?

Would he do that to you if you had another protective characteristic eg race?

Would that be acceptable?

No, none of it is acceptable and I'm astonished you haven't put your husband in the bin where he belongs.

badgerpatrol · 13/09/2024 13:58

And your DS needs therapy because he's been weaponised against you by your stbexh - but not now, as you don't want to reveal too much in terms of having your eyes open to all the shit and that you are leaving your husband, it can be very dangerous to leave them (as I'm sure you know).

Make your plans to leave quietly, I'm really glad you are getting help from woman's aid and getting out.

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 13/09/2024 14:04

IneffableCat · 13/09/2024 11:41

He’s only 12 (soon to be 13) so it would shared custody with ex and I couldn’t just leave him. Women’s Aid have mentioned counselling for children who witnessed DA. DS unfortunately is starting to copy DH’s actions and when corrected says - well, Daddy calls you names, why is it ok for Daddy to call you names etc?

your son is a age to my son who is also ND and mimics people. Doesn’t mean he can’t be told not to- which you know- but requires a lot more reminders about inappropriate/unpleasant behaviour.

I’m glad you’re leaving your cunt of a husband, this particular example of his behaviour is vile and abusive and very common. He’s also abusing your son by damaging the relationship he has with his mother. You’re right to have not walked out last night without your son. It’s tempting but you did the right thing. Really hope you get out soon.

SnugCoralFinch · 13/09/2024 14:38

GreatBigCat · 13/09/2024 13:32

I find it so weird when people say this. As if the only alternative to being single is being with a shit partner.

I’ve been with DH for over 25 years. Never once has he treated me like this. He does everything he can to make my life easier and better.

Today is my day off work, and last night I noticed he did two loads of washing and vacuumed. I asked him why, because I could do it tomorrow and he just said Well, now you don’t have to. Some men are keepers.

I know good partners exist, but we don’t tend to hear about those on here, or on social media in general. It’s overwhelmingly negative.

But the options out there at mid 30s aren’t exactly prosperous either 😂 it soon becomes apparent why they are single. Although that could work both ways, but that’s another story.

GreatBigCat · 13/09/2024 14:43

SnugCoralFinch · 13/09/2024 14:38

I know good partners exist, but we don’t tend to hear about those on here, or on social media in general. It’s overwhelmingly negative.

But the options out there at mid 30s aren’t exactly prosperous either 😂 it soon becomes apparent why they are single. Although that could work both ways, but that’s another story.

Fair enough. 😅

Ponoka7 · 13/09/2024 14:43

IneffableCat · 13/09/2024 11:41

He’s only 12 (soon to be 13) so it would shared custody with ex and I couldn’t just leave him. Women’s Aid have mentioned counselling for children who witnessed DA. DS unfortunately is starting to copy DH’s actions and when corrected says - well, Daddy calls you names, why is it ok for Daddy to call you names etc?

If your DH says anything similar, completely lose your shit because your DS has a point. You shouldn't have accepted it. Going on strike until you get the respect you deserve is a good option.