If you voted for brexit did you get what you wanted?

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I’m definitely not a sneery anti-brexiter. I get that 50% of the population had legitimate concerns and did what they thought was best for the country. But my question is: did the thing that was so intolerable as a result of being a part of the EU get resolved for you by way of brexit?

I just don’t see what the point of it all was.

There have been dozens of dozens of threads asking the exact same question. Did you miss them all? 😂

The biggest reason people voted was to stop/reduce immigration and it's now at record levels. It was the biggest con ever placed on a country.

Made everyone poorer for nothing. (I appreciate a select few got rich)

Tony Blair said the other day we've just replaced single Europeans who'd come here to work, with families from Africa and Asia. That's without all the boats who pre-Brexit could have been sent straight back

The biggest reason people voted was to stop/reduce immigration and it's now at record levels. It was the biggest con ever placed on a country.

People didn't think it through.

Because they vote on soundbites.

I didn't vote for Brexit or Labour. However, another 5 years of the Tories was unconscionable. They've wrecked everything.

Being out of the EU doesn't give us any benefits. There were plenty of benefits of being in it (and I don't even like the EU). We had a great deal as well. Proper have your cake and eat it.

Yes, some do. I meant they didn't wonder who would replace the Europeans who were working in the UK. They didn't think that those people would need to be replaced as they were often doing essential work such as the NHS or caring.

Well I get a cute little stamp of a steam train in my passport every time I go to France - so it was totally worth it.

Even on this thread, which is specifically asking about the benefits, that's all any of them can say.

I voted to leave from a left wing democratic perspective and was upset that the narrative of leaving was completely hijacked by right wing racists.

Having said that we are now back to being a small, more democratic state, and we have a labour government, so in spite of all the disadvantages, which I do acknowledge, I’m happy with my vote.

Some issues are simply too important to be made by electorates who base their vote on soundbites and bias.

It made quite a lot of UK citizens search for their Irish roots to get citizenship and an Irish/EU passports.

What makes you think Remain didn't have sound bites and bias?

You sound a bit undemocratic to be honest. Who do you think should make the decisions about the country then?

Who do you think should make the decisions about the country then?

The elected government; especially regarding something so seismic. We should never have had the referendum.

Disaster!

Can't send refugees back to the European country they came from - as we could prior to Brexit!

Brits can't go and work the summer seadon (or longwr) in Spain, Greece etc.

Europeans can't easily come and work here ... its almost killed the restaurant/pub trade in the Lake Distruct.

I find it extremely difficult being only allowed to spend 90 days out of 180 in Europe.

I know two women who voted for it. One is Australian and immigration was her big issue. It would be interesting to know the percentage of Commonwealth people for and against. I know some felt abandoned when Britain joined the EEC originally.
Both women I know are around retirement age and both have Irish passports - longstanding through marriage in the case of the Australian lady. Hastily acquired post Brexit in the other case under the 'granny ' rule. I'm not sure what they make of it now tbh. Apart from a moan about queues for the Channel Tunnel the subject has never arisen. I certainly don't bring it up with them. Not much point I fear.

Can't send refugees back to the European country they came from - as we could prior to Brexit!

We really couldn't. Look at the numbers it was very small and we took more than we sent back

Because people don't vote 'for' things anymore, they vote against things. Even in the recent election, people weren't voting for Labour (they had nothing to offer), they were voting against the Tories. So when it's a binary vote in/out people chose out.

This is also the fault of politicians. The case for the EU wasn't made well enough.

Because people weren't coming in on boats because there was a simple deterrant that you could be sent straight back. Now they're put straight in hotels.

I was a remain voter and don't blame politicians for people's choices as they are adults with agency. All the information was there, we had months of debates, articles, questions.

In the same way I place the blame on the rioters for their behaviour, even if it was whipped up by rabble-rousers on social media. As adults, it's up to them to take responsibility for their behaviour.

People voted Labour because they were so badly effected by the Tories, they could no longer believe the right wing press.

*Can't send refugees back to the European country they came from - as we could prior to Brexit!

We really couldn't. Look at the numbers it was very small and we took more than we sent back*
When we left the Dublin Agreement in 2020, the numbers of 'small boats' increased because refugees believed the fact the UK was no longer part of the EU made it more appealing to risk the dangerous crossings because they could no longer be sent back to other European countries under EU legislation.

No it's just another way to enter became more established. The peak for arrivals was 2002, just by another way to get here. Pre Brexit.

Also look up what's happening with the EU and various countries reacting to the strain politically and socially. No Brexit there.

There are other downsides but for some reason people seem to go with this

Since we left in 2020, the UK no longer has access to the Eurodac fingerprint database, so it is harder to prove definitively which other countries that the European small boat arrivals to the UK have previously passed through. We haven't set up any other bilateral agreements so refugees are stuck in hotels (who's making money out of that?). The backlog grew during the previous government and the numbers have rocketed since.
It's a mess.

It's really not Brexit, it's increased movement which some countries will try to counter and others won't. No one has been sending people back in large numbers using the Dublin agreement, look at the numbers they were tiny, eg about 500 per year and we took more than sent back.

Sending large numbers of people back wasn't an option.

If it's Brexit related can you explain how Germany is struggling with they same issue atm?

Yes. Sovereignty

We had sovereignty, you wombat.