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If you voted for brexit did you get what you wanted?

258 replies

Poutl · 08/09/2024 12:43

I’m definitely not a sneery anti-brexiter. I get that 50% of the population had legitimate concerns and did what they thought was best for the country. But my question is: did the thing that was so intolerable as a result of being a part of the EU get resolved for you by way of brexit?

I just don’t see what the point of it all was.

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ItTook9Years · 08/09/2024 17:22

See also major meds shortages as pharmaceutical countries prioritise Europe.

Imperfectionist · 08/09/2024 17:23

I know one person who voted for Brexit to teach Cameron a lesson.

I guess he got the result he wanted! 😠

notgettinganyyounger · 08/09/2024 17:26

I am very pleased that I voted leave.

This post is quite interesting, I would like to ask the same question to those who voted Labour in July. Might start a thread sometime unless there is already one.

HoppityBun · 08/09/2024 17:27

BananagramBadger · 08/09/2024 17:19

Of the three men in their forties who I know voted Brexit, two were doing it to ‘stick it to the man’ and were pleased with how upset everyone was as that was their goal. The other was voting from a longer term financial markets perspective and now feels it was a mistake.

The two older ones - in their 70s, did it to reduce immigrants. And given that they are still mentioning ‘small boats’ all the time, I don’t think it’s achieved what they hoped for.

I don’t know any women who voted for it. Or admit to. Not saying there weren’t any, I just don’t know their reasonings because they haven’t mentioned it.

Of the people I know who voted Leave, 2 are people I respect but I’ve never gone into their motives. A third was in his early 40s, hadn’t really thought about it but wanted in his own words to give Cameron “a kicking”, but he also admitted afterwards that he regretted it and hadn’t thought it would really happen.

A young man in his 30s thought that “we can just walk away”, but I don’t know if he had thought about how his children’s opportunities were being limited and he acknowledged that the EU benefitted us environmentally, which was the area he worked in.

The fifth person I know was elderly and though she originally voted “In” first time round, she had an unshakable conviction that “they” - unnamed authorities, governments and agencies- are working against us in unspecified ways. Her reasoning about a lot of things was contradictory.

Here4thechocs · 08/09/2024 17:29

I think it’s cowardice to not be able to admit to Brexit being an utterly terrible, stupid thing for a country as learned ( or so I thought ) as the UK to have done.

Last week, I had to post an item out to my friend in Denmark. After I had paid the shipping fee here, guess what ? She had to then pay an extra £80 to receive it. Customs. Why ? Out of EU rules applied.

If you voted & still insist on Brexit being the best decision we ever made as a country, care to share the one, singular identifiable benefit? No. Not the nonexistent , futuristic ones Farage and Bojo lied to you about.

You know the truth just as well as they & their ilk do : there are no be edits to cutting your nose to spite your face.

itsgettingweird · 08/09/2024 17:32

I'm slightly different in this game.

I was a remainer but respected the democratic vote. So I voted Tory in 2019 to "get brexit done".

I'm not sure I can say what that Brexit was or it's benefitted us and absolutely after the shower of shite that was that Tory party will never vote Tory again either!

I actually wish it had been beneficial despite it not being what I'd voted for. I don't think anyone which ever side you were on wanted failure.

Muchtoomuchtodo · 08/09/2024 17:32

The in laws voted to leave. Their motivation was to take back control of our borders. They holiday a lot and are fuming at how much longer border control takes on most of their trips. Seeing they’re faces when they found out recently that they’re going to need to pay for Visa waivers soon was hilarious!

They still can’t get their head around why their younger grandchildren can’t easily study in any European universities like one of their older ones did, or why a working a ski season is far more challenging to sort out now than pre-Brexit.

I’m really not sure what they were expecting . I try not to discuss it with them any more.

itsgettingweird · 08/09/2024 17:33

bringmorewashing · 08/09/2024 17:08

Well I for one am thrilled with my new blue passport. Makes it all totally worthwhile!

Forgot about that until ds adult passport arrived the other day!

Livelovebehappy · 08/09/2024 17:36

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 08/09/2024 17:10

Yes I have got everything I wanted ta for asking. And it was 52%, not 50% (in the referendum!)

Many of the shoutiest angriest whingers are people who didn't even vote.

Yep. Same here. Happy to vote Brexit at the time, and still happy with my decision. People blame the downward turn in the economy and cost of living crisis on Brexit when, in fact, a lot of issues occurred due to Covid coming soon after which has affected how we live today far more than Brexit ever did.

itsgettingweird · 08/09/2024 17:37

Muchtoomuchtodo · 08/09/2024 17:32

The in laws voted to leave. Their motivation was to take back control of our borders. They holiday a lot and are fuming at how much longer border control takes on most of their trips. Seeing they’re faces when they found out recently that they’re going to need to pay for Visa waivers soon was hilarious!

They still can’t get their head around why their younger grandchildren can’t easily study in any European universities like one of their older ones did, or why a working a ski season is far more challenging to sort out now than pre-Brexit.

I’m really not sure what they were expecting . I try not to discuss it with them any more.

Yes I'm also seeing people who voted for Brexit surprised that they got a Brexit 🤦‍♀️

But they didn't vote to stop them going out of the country - it was to stop others coming in.

I think some people have had the realisation we are superior to others and it's somewhat (surprisingly) surprised them!

I have people genuinely surprised they can't just go to their second home in Spain for as long as they want now - that wasn't what they voted for.

Urm - yes it was! I respected that you did so you need to respect that's what you got!

itsgettingweird · 08/09/2024 17:37

Realisation we aren't superior .....

ItTook9Years · 08/09/2024 17:38

Livelovebehappy · 08/09/2024 17:36

Yep. Same here. Happy to vote Brexit at the time, and still happy with my decision. People blame the downward turn in the economy and cost of living crisis on Brexit when, in fact, a lot of issues occurred due to Covid coming soon after which has affected how we live today far more than Brexit ever did.

I have access (through work) to some of the UK’s best economists and they rank Brexit, Covid and Truss as pretty equal…,

HoppityBun · 08/09/2024 17:39

Redlettuce · 08/09/2024 17:20

It wasn't mainly about the economics but it hasn't proved too bad. Growth is roughly the same as the EU since Brexit.

It did mean we were able to negotiate our own vaccine deals during covid.

The problem is we had a lot of people running the UK that didn't believe in Brexit and were actually trying to undermine it so we got a poor deal.

The post I did below shows that’s not true- a loss of 15% is significant. Lord Frost was incompetent but what made you believe that the people running the country were competent to negotiate a good deal? It’s been disastrous for small businesses. As for the vaccines, that doesn’t seem so clear. The UK took a gamble on safety and the vaccine we mostly used it was approved and obtained under EU rules. Wasn’t it – to a great extent - manufactured in the EU? There were problems after the AstraZeneca one couldn’t be used in people under 40.

AsYouWiiiiiiiiiiiiish · 08/09/2024 17:40

The vast, vast majority of people didn't know what they actually were voting for.

And I don't know a single person who voted for it who doesn't deeply regret it.

LongTimeReading · 08/09/2024 17:40

Poutl · 08/09/2024 12:43

I’m definitely not a sneery anti-brexiter. I get that 50% of the population had legitimate concerns and did what they thought was best for the country. But my question is: did the thing that was so intolerable as a result of being a part of the EU get resolved for you by way of brexit?

I just don’t see what the point of it all was.

Well, "50% of the population" didn't, it was just over 50% of those who were eligible to vote and did so. Not 50% of the population.

But if you remember, of all the people who were eligble to vote, it was almost a 3-way split between in, out, and chose not to vote.

I was one of the latter. Hadn't a clue either way, and strongly beleive none of us should have been put in that position. I hate what it's done to people.

Messen · 08/09/2024 17:43

Camembertcufflinks · 08/09/2024 17:21

Being restricted to 2kg of medical food when travelling from the U.K. to the EU isn't helpful for a lot of disabled people reliant on tube feeds. That was an unexpected and unfair result of brexit. It's a little known and very definitely detrimental change that has left many disabled people feeling even more restricted than they already are. The choice either wing it and hope border control don't pick on you or risk declaring feed and being left without or ending up in trouble. 2kg of medical feed isn't even 2 days worth of food for some people.

That’s appalling. Is there no exemption certificate or … anything? I had no idea about this.

Flibflobflibflob · 08/09/2024 17:45

In 20 years there will still be mumsnetters posting “are you happy you voted BREXIT ARE YOU HAPPY!?” every few weeks. I didn’t vote before anyone starts moaning at me, let it go!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 08/09/2024 17:47

I was on holiday when Brexit happened. You could ask me a different question though. Do I wish we could go back in time and stay in the EU? No I don’t.

RhubarbStrawberry · 08/09/2024 17:48

notgettinganyyounger · 08/09/2024 17:26

I am very pleased that I voted leave.

This post is quite interesting, I would like to ask the same question to those who voted Labour in July. Might start a thread sometime unless there is already one.

If people respond in the same way you have "I am very pleased that I voted leave." With no reason given, it'll be a very boring thread.

poppyzbrite4 · 08/09/2024 17:52

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 08/09/2024 16:20

I don't really know what the point of it was either, or really how we ended up in the situation of having a vote.

What I will say though, is that very rarely does the public get what they think they're voting for. Politicians are very good at using ambiguous language. When they say things they know that most people will interpret it a certain way but actually it can be interpreted multiple ways, meaning they can easily back out. Either that or they just blatantly lie to get what they want then deal with it later if they get called out. So us serfs never win regardless how we vote. We do not live in a true democracy.

I don't really know what the point of it was either, or really how we ended up in the situation of having a vote.

Farage under UKIP had been gaining popularity on his anti EU stance and the Tories felt threatened. They promised an EU referendum if they got voted in, which they were.

The EU referendum was mainly held because of immigration. People were fed up with uncontrolled immigration. They no longer believed in 'experts' and were looking forward to sunny uplands.

Then Brexit happened and immigration increased and none of the promises such as millions to the NHS or control over fishing took place.

The UK had been sold a kipper and it's been disastrous.

angelcake20 · 08/09/2024 17:53

DM voted leave to reduce immigration and is cross that it hasn't happened. Of the two others I know, one thought we would turn into Switzerland, which would require a different type of Brexit, and the other thought it would be easier for their (non-EU) relatives to get visas, which may have happened.

PeachTree500 · 08/09/2024 17:53

Could some of the people who say they are glad they voted Brexit talk more about the reasons please?

I was never a staunch remainer and definitely saw disadvantages to EU membership from a left-wing perspective. However when I saw the tone of the Brexit campaign and the focus on immigration I decided to vote remain, because those were not my concerns about the EU.

It doesn’t seem to me that any of the issues people had with the EU, either from a left or right-wing angle, have been addressed. But I am not very familiar with the specifics and I would like to learn.

KurtCobainLover · 08/09/2024 17:57

I voted leave because I felt being in the EU was restrictive. I don’t regret it.

KATHSTYLE · 08/09/2024 17:59

I voted to leave because I resented all the money that was being sent to the EU and thought it could be better spent improving things here.

There have been no improvements. On the contrary, things just seem to get worse and worse.

I also had reservations about unfettered immigration and a hope that some autonomy and sovereignty would help us.

I regret voting to leave and would vote to stay if I could rewind the clock.

Livelovebehappy · 08/09/2024 17:59

AsYouWiiiiiiiiiiiiish · 08/09/2024 17:40

The vast, vast majority of people didn't know what they actually were voting for.

And I don't know a single person who voted for it who doesn't deeply regret it.

And you know this how? I haven’t seen any news item which states the ‘vast majority’ didn’t know what they were voting for. You can’t just make things up to suit your narrative….