If you voted for brexit did you get what you wanted?

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I’m definitely not a sneery anti-brexiter. I get that 50% of the population had legitimate concerns and did what they thought was best for the country. But my question is: did the thing that was so intolerable as a result of being a part of the EU get resolved for you by way of brexit?

I just don’t see what the point of it all was.

It doesn't have to be the same, the pp I assume just thought of it on the back off this thread

Given Labour haven't been able to do anything that will make much of a difference to the economy, two months in, it seems a bit premature to ask the question.

Polls track it already so it's not avoided as a question. Public opinion isn't as high as pre GE

That was Jacob Rees Mogg a proponents of Brexit who following the Leave vote, got himself a business address in Dublin.

He's now working as a GB "News" presenter where he hawks his kids for views and money.🙈

We had a veto.

I actually considered this very carefully at the time.

The only 2 I could find were the one that prevents old style light bulbs being sold (for my old style lava lamp which requires heat as well as light) and not being able to buy really good red food dye to make red velvet cake.

Neither were worth losing free movement (or all the other benefits of EU membership) for.

Added to which, you can use a 25w oven lamp in a lava lamp (id it has a small screw cap fitting). Doesn't melt the wax as quickly as the old 40w bulbs, but any port in a storm. Oven bulbs are easily sourced.

In the same way as Brexit was Putin’s project to divide and isolate the UK from the EU, Reform (featuring the same cast of twats) also seeks to isolate the UK from international institutions such as the WHO and ECHR. It’s the same song, and the same mouth breathers will dance along to it. Imagine destroying the UK for Putin and thinking you’re being “patriotic”. The most gullible, usess idiots. Farage et al should be in the kind of prison you don’t come out of alive.

You voted to impose restrictions, that don't apply to everyone, on your own children. My children are exempt. As are Farage's children and the kids of those rich enough for it not to matter. Like Johnson, Cameron and Rees-Mogg.

Vote Leave worked to the detriment of the UK. Even GB News viewers have cottoned on to what a mistake it was.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrnftrSqgE

Look at the analysis about the teeny, tiny impact CPTPT will actually have on the UK economy before you get too excited.

The Australians could not believe the amazing deal they got from us and even the Minister who signed it admits that it’s a pile of shite!

I've heard that on cold, moonless nights, if you stand on a UK mountain and listen very carefully, you can hear the sound of laughter coming from farmers halfway across the world.

No idea if it's true though.🐏🐂🐓

I voted leave and so did most of the people I know, no-one I now is happy with the way it's turned out due to believing that most of those negotiating on our behalf were remainers and seemed to go for the easiest option to appease the group they really wanted to allign with. Obstacles seemed to occur alot and then it was hard versus soft etc, laws were changed, waters were muddied and then COVID hit! Then we had changes in power all quite quickly and the issues that were important were pushed to the back of the queue. Then we had a change of government with a leader who would really like us to go back. I don't think it's going well and I don't think with the people guiding it it will. But ultimately it's our (Englands) issue not the eus and if it's cocked up we can only blame those that we voted (or didn't) for. But I will say no-one I know regrets voting leave and would definitely do so again ( and surprisingly some that voted remain would vote leave!) Because they all feel that at least with it being badly dealt with they prefer it being dealt with as a UK issue rather than being under EU control where they feel we had all the negatives and none of the positives. Perhaps like many issues it's demographic? Where I live and the industries that all my family and friends work within we haven't seen any negatives? But I am aware that nationwide they are there and these weren't expected and certainly not what anyone who voted leave wanted for anyone living in the UK.

Unfortunately what a lot of these people did not recognise was that the benefits to being in the EU far outweighed the costs.

The campaign was built on racism, misinformation and fear mongering.

One of the first comments on this thread was someone saying "I am glad I voted for Brexit because we can now control our VAT rates". But this is totally wrong because EU countries all set their own individual tax rates.

The effects have been so clearly negative that the only argument people stubbornly clinging on to the idea of Brexit can say is that its too early to assess the impact. It was bad in 2016, it is bad today and it will continue to be bad in the future.

You may not feel you have been impacted but you will have been. Whether its the increase in fuel bills, lack of supply in the supermarket, shortage of medicines, increases in unemployment...the average UK citizen was £2000 worse off in 2022 as a result of Brexit.

Possibly, but all I can say is in the area I live and the industries we all work in we haven't seen it. Wages have gone up, fuel bills have gone down. Food prices yes I can see, but no problems getting anything. Shortage of medicine, the only problem we have is no pharmacies in the area and lack of drs willing to see anyone, but tbh that's due to the way our health authority runs things and being quite rural
But I am aware that looking at the suggestions in the budget we may be hit hard.

Personal anecdote - I have British friends of Pakistani heritage (second gen immigrants) who did vote for Brexit because they wanted it to be as easy for their family and friends to get work visas to come to the UK as it was for EU nationals.

They did get what they wanted, or at least a step in that direction. Now it is much harder for EU nationals to access UK Labour market, (and culturally Brexit is a huge deterrent to Europeans) so there is less competition for work visas.

True, but the prospect of that exact failure was very clearly and consistently warned about beforehand! The debate got so toxic and exhausting though, people on both sides just stopped listening ( if they ever started).

I agree. Add to that list, decline in food safety standards 😠

I'm guessing a large majority of people voting for Brexit will have voted for Brexit for one of three reasons: money for the NHS; stopping immigration and taking back control. Those were heavily campaigned for in the leave campaign. None of them have actually been implemented (although, legal immigration has definitely been curbed). This is not the Brexit people voted for.

It’s far too early to see benefits, it was always a 10 year plus deal for me- and I mean 10 years from actually leaving. Just like UK parliament, takes at least two terms to effect change.

I think the situation in the next decade or so will be favourable, but it has to get worse to get better. Anyone expecting instant benefits is deluded.

In what ways will the situation turn favourable though? What evidence is there to suggest that? It seems economic and geopolitical instability are more likely than not in the next decade. Of course, there will be ups and downs in that period as there always have been, but the ‘jam tomorrow’ argument seems completely unsupported by any current facts. It is also, as a previous poster said, a convenient way for those who based the Leave arguments on lies ( certain so-called leaders) to continue to avoid any accountability.

The people who voted Leave to reduce immigration were conned.

Out of the two people I know who voted leave, one person really regrets his vote amd wished he could change it. The other person is quite a racist and is still happy with his decision, I think.
At the time of Brexit there were also talks of a Swexit, a swedish exit from the EU. We have family in Sweden and visit yearly, and guess what, after seeing what a shit show Brexit turned into, no one is talking about a Swexit anymore.
The loss of being in the EU ; freedom of movement and settlement within the EU, trade deals outside of EU, the ease of import /export within EU- all gone. Together with many more benefits. Luckily my children have both british and EU passports .

Wishfulthinking1977 · Today 22:37

no-one I now is happy with the way it's turned out due to believing that most of those negotiating on our behalf were remainers and seemed to go for the easiest option to appease the group they really wanted to allign with.

That really is complete and utter rubbish, propagated by lazy idiots like Steve Barclay, Marc Francois, Rees Mogg etc, who were too lazy to negotiate beforehand and too ignorant to understand what they should be negotiating, let alone why.

As it became obvious that Brexit was and is a complete clown show, they pretended that Brexit was shit, because remainers sabotaged it.

They fucked up big style, then lashed out and tried to blame everyone except those responsible; themselves.

I will convey your message, sorry that you feel that many peoples opinions that I know are rubbish, I personally don't know two of the names that you mentioned! But I'm not lashing out at anyone! I was answering a question. But obviously you are upset and angry and your use of profanity and insults does actually reinforce the division between the groups. I really was just hoping to answer the question!

I agree with the pp here. You are deluded if you think the disaster of Brexit is down to bad negotiations.