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If you voted for brexit did you get what you wanted?

258 replies

Poutl · 08/09/2024 12:43

I’m definitely not a sneery anti-brexiter. I get that 50% of the population had legitimate concerns and did what they thought was best for the country. But my question is: did the thing that was so intolerable as a result of being a part of the EU get resolved for you by way of brexit?

I just don’t see what the point of it all was.

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Haroldwilson · 09/09/2024 00:28

Loving it so far. Reduced growth, political instability, riots, sense of decay and desolation - what's not to like?

I'm particularly enjoying the abandonment of any attempt to find EU rules we want to change as it turns out they were all quite sensible, really.

Just great. Worth breaking up families over.

friendlycat · 09/09/2024 00:39

KATHSTYLE · 08/09/2024 17:59

I voted to leave because I resented all the money that was being sent to the EU and thought it could be better spent improving things here.

There have been no improvements. On the contrary, things just seem to get worse and worse.

I also had reservations about unfettered immigration and a hope that some autonomy and sovereignty would help us.

I regret voting to leave and would vote to stay if I could rewind the clock.

I respect the fact you’ve come on this thread and said why you voted leave and have since changed your mind.

I don’t agree with your vote, but at least you’ve given an honest answer. People were fed a lot of lies and it’s tragic how much misinformation there was of such a serious situation.

SinnerBoy · 09/09/2024 01:30

Well said, friendlycat

SinnerBoy · 09/09/2024 01:33

Wishfulthinking1977

Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you personally, just the chancers who buggered it all up, then blamed everyone else and got the Mail & Express to repeat it endlessly.

Nc789123 · 09/09/2024 01:46

I voted brexit and id do so again tomorrow. Im happy with the outcome to an extent but im not happy that it didnt go far enough. In my opinion, voting for brexit was voting for a clean break so i dont believe we have gone far enough.

poppyzbrite4 · 09/09/2024 08:15

honeybeetheoneandonly · 08/09/2024 23:33

I'm guessing a large majority of people voting for Brexit will have voted for Brexit for one of three reasons: money for the NHS; stopping immigration and taking back control. Those were heavily campaigned for in the leave campaign. None of them have actually been implemented (although, legal immigration has definitely been curbed). This is not the Brexit people voted for.

Immigration has gone up.

Newname5565 · 09/09/2024 08:17

I’m still wondering where the £100M a week went! NHS definitely is not getting that!

iNoticed · 09/09/2024 08:33

ginasevern · 08/09/2024 18:47

We were always able to set our own VAT rules, the only thing we couldn't do was abolish it. VAT was introduced in Britain in 1973 and has little or nothing to do with the EU. It was called Purchase Tax before that, which was introduced in 1940. Unless the Government (any government) decides to abolish VAT or reduce it to below 15% (the EU minimum on most goods and services) then I don't see how anything has changed or "worked out well".

I know. Feminine hygiene products have move to 0% VAT as a direct result of Brexit though, ergo it’s working well.

It was my only reason for voting Brexit though and I think it’ll be a generation before any real benefits arise - so it all remains to be seen.

Wishfulthinking1977 · 09/09/2024 08:38

Mabelthebore · 09/09/2024 00:20

I agree with the pp here. You are deluded if you think the disaster of Brexit is down to bad negotiations.

Your opinion and I respect that. I don't agree and I don't know anyone who does . As I said I don't think insult's and name calling are productive. We have a very divided society already at the moment and that just makes it worse!

Mabelthebore · 09/09/2024 08:55

Wishfulthinking1977 · 09/09/2024 08:38

Your opinion and I respect that. I don't agree and I don't know anyone who does . As I said I don't think insult's and name calling are productive. We have a very divided society already at the moment and that just makes it worse!

I agree with you in that I think insults and name calling are completely uncalled for. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Blaming the negotiators is showing a very 'British superiority' attitude. People who feel the UK should be able to get whatever they want (a great deal) out of negotiations without care and consideration to other nations. But this attitude of British superiority is what caused a lot of people to vote for Brexit in the first place so that's no__ surprise. We need to realise that we are no superior to anybody else and have to allow for give and take in negotiations.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2024 09:07

Newname5565 · 09/09/2024 08:17

I’m still wondering where the £100M a week went! NHS definitely is not getting that!

I think it has gone up over the amount talked about

It's that the NHS needs a lot and rising

Leniriefenstahl · 09/09/2024 09:37

Over the last few years we’ve had loads of shortages of basic meds at work. No idea why. First it was IV paracetamol, then remifentanyl. The pharmaceutical industry warned us about this pre Brexit.

LastTrainEast · 09/09/2024 09:40

Yes, though perhaps it could have been handled a little better. We got self rule back (Ireland may have to go the same way) and our economy is doing as well as many of those in the EU despite dire warnings that the UK could not survive without them.

I was born before the EU existed so I knew that last part was nonsense.

We should also remove ourselves from the ECHR (Duplicating every part of it into our own court system) since it was obvious that many of the other members would hold a deep and lasting resentment towards us.

Whether or not you believe this affects judgements there is always going to be a perception that it does so a clean break is better in the long run.

ItTook9Years · 09/09/2024 09:44

Whether or not you believe this affects judgements there is always going to be a perception that it does so a clean break is better in the long run.

Always best to cut your ears off when you cut your nose off. Make it a proper job.

LastTrainEast · 09/09/2024 09:46

"Vladimir Putin got want he wanted" yes but only because he was able to use 5G mind control via the chips inserted in the vaccines to make everyone vote his way.

😀

LastTrainEast · 09/09/2024 09:51

"ItTook9Years" I can see that you've given this a lot of thought.

ItTook9Years · 09/09/2024 09:55

LastTrainEast · 09/09/2024 09:51

"ItTook9Years" I can see that you've given this a lot of thought.

I spent years in European and Economic policy, then the NHS. I probably understood more than most about the impact and yes, not found anything yet that has made it anything but an utter disaster.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2024 16:20

ItTook9Years · 09/09/2024 09:44

Whether or not you believe this affects judgements there is always going to be a perception that it does so a clean break is better in the long run.

Always best to cut your ears off when you cut your nose off. Make it a proper job.

Why are you against it?

LondonLass61 · 09/09/2024 16:28

@LastTrainEast

We got self rule back (Ireland may have to go the same way)
What do you mean by this? Are you referring to the fact that complications in NI re Brexit have made a United Ireland more likely?

Perplexed20 · 09/09/2024 23:02

iNoticed · 09/09/2024 08:33

I know. Feminine hygiene products have move to 0% VAT as a direct result of Brexit though, ergo it’s working well.

It was my only reason for voting Brexit though and I think it’ll be a generation before any real benefits arise - so it all remains to be seen.

So it's OK to have a generation that suffers because there might be a benefit?
Thanks for that

TheBers2024 · 09/09/2024 23:19

@Perplexed20 but nothing long term turns out to be the wrong decision.
Countries rise and fall. The ones who do worse are the ones that think everything stays the same.

SweetBonanza · 10/09/2024 00:28

notgettinganyyounger · 08/09/2024 17:26

I am very pleased that I voted leave.

This post is quite interesting, I would like to ask the same question to those who voted Labour in July. Might start a thread sometime unless there is already one.

Please do. Because they've been in power 2 months, and I'm pleased with what I'm seeing so far. Brexit happened 8 years ago.... tell us the benefits you're reaping?

SweetBonanza · 10/09/2024 00:34

Livelovebehappy · 08/09/2024 18:07

Most people voted leave as they didn’t want us to have to bow down to mostly irrational rules and demands from the EU. I thought that was pretty obvious as every time the UK tried to implement our own rules to suit our own people, it was slapped down by the EU. Or the EU would force ridiculous rules and regulations on us. The fee they took from us for being part of this circus was absolutely huge, and made up of sums plucked out of their arses.

Can you give us some examples of these irrational and ridiculous rules that were forced on us?

IhateHPSDeaneCnt · 10/09/2024 00:38

FFS. It was a complete racist exercise - covered up in a blanket of retrieving our sovereignty (whatever that really means).

sosaad · 10/09/2024 07:46

Eventually, Brexit gave us Boris Johnson in his true colours (all ten million of them!).