If you voted for brexit did you get what you wanted?

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I’m definitely not a sneery anti-brexiter. I get that 50% of the population had legitimate concerns and did what they thought was best for the country. But my question is: did the thing that was so intolerable as a result of being a part of the EU get resolved for you by way of brexit?

I just don’t see what the point of it all was.

The vast, vast majority of people didn't know what they actually were voting for.

🤣 Are you sure?

I was being ironic. The information was there but people chose not to do any research or listen. There was a lot of talk at the time of how we shouldn't trust 'experts'.

They instead believed utter nonsense without doing the bare minimum of fact checking. Then millions voted for Farage again this year.

But the ever closer union was just political rhetoric. Cameron had in any case removed references to this at the beginning of 2016. By the time of the referendum it had lost what little force it ever had.

https://fullfact.org/europe/explaining-eu-deal-ever-closer-union/

Yes actually.

As I said in a prior comment, it has been widely discussed and recognised that people were ill informed about Brexit.

That to me has been proven true in the many conversations I have had with people about it (from various demographics).

There has been at least 4 in the last 10 days. I can get you the link to everyone if you are really that bothered.

Must be true then!

Ah, tone is a bit hard to gauge on here.

And I agree, many people are politically lazy and don't want to put in the time.

Social media doesn't help as the algorithm turns people's feeds into echo chambers and they aren't exposed to differing opinions.

I maintain that many people didn't know exactly what they were voting for, but it was due to a combination of not spending the time to learn... and also a lot of people (and politicians) muddying the waters (lying) with bold claims and social media campaigns etc

We were always able to set our own VAT rules, the only thing we couldn't do was abolish it. VAT was introduced in Britain in 1973 and has little or nothing to do with the EU. It was called Purchase Tax before that, which was introduced in 1940. Unless the Government (any government) decides to abolish VAT or reduce it to below 15% (the EU minimum on most goods and services) then I don't see how anything has changed or "worked out well".

No thanks, I’m happy with this one!

Caveat Emptor. It's the responsibility of everyone to take their vote seriously and do their research.

The information was there, for and against for a very long time.

I think that since post WW2, the UK has had an identity crisis particularly since the loss of the empire.
People also forget that it took us many attempts to get into the Common Market in part because De Gaulle voted against us and thought that we'd treat it as another empire and put our own and USA's interests first. My grandparents who'd been through the two World Wars were delighted when we joined. I think that they would have been saddened by Brexit as am I.

I'm still not clear there have been any benefits? Didn't Boris appoint a minister to be responsible for promoting the benefits? Not sure what happened to them...

The question was " if you voted Brexit".
Yet the majority of respondents appear to be from Remain voters.

I'd say it's not Leave voters who don't understand questions....

As of May 2024 31% of the electorate agree that uk was right to leave the EU. That is skewed by people who thought it was right originally but think the govt made a pigs ear of leaving. 20% of the electorate voted for Labour so Brexit is still more popular than Labour (and 17.5m people voted for leave v 9.5m people for Labour). And alot of them have regret over voting Labour (they didn't know what they were voting for as per all recent elections where subsequently the govt have done major things which weren't in their manifesto and not done major things in their manifesto). Faith in politicians is at an all time low).

There’s also the issue that fairly prominent vote leave people were talking about Brexit not leaving the single market, Rees-Mogg was talking about a second referendum to determine what sort of Brexit and a lot of stuff was written off a project fears.

It’s difficult to imagine that anyone who voted, whichever way they voted, knew what Brexit meant.

Of course people didn't know what Brexit meant any more than people know at any election as govts just veer off and do their own thing which is rarely what the public want. Which is why Labour are already v. unpopular with ks ratings in negative figures even though only been in for 7 weeks.

I wasn't aware of the suggestion of a second referendum. I knew that we'd have to leave the single market as part of Brexit as that was part of the condition of being in the EU, that along with freedom of movement.

The project fear nonsense came alongside the don't believe the experts rhetoric. It was impossible to talk to some people about the facts because anything with evidence was dismissed.

Most people I spoke to about Brexit, were voting because of immigration. They just thought that immigration would stop after the vote. Farage pulled a blinder with his racist poster.

TheBers2024 · Today 19:01

The question was " if you voted Brexit".
Yet the majority of respondents appear to be from Remain voters.

I'd say it's not Leave voters who don't understand questions....

Yes, what part of 'if you voted Brexit' do they not understand ?

Anyway can't believe people on mn still moaning about brexit, they're are so many other things that have negatively affected your quality of life, lockdowns being the main one which mumsnet thought was great at the time! I don't remember many people trying to find out facts then or thinking about the long term consequences! It was 8 years ago ffs.

You obviously voted leave. What did you vote leave for and did you get it?

I don’t think we were given all the facts just lots of lies for political gain. My vote wasn’t anything to do with immigration it was the EU membership fee that I stupidly thought would be put into the NHS.

I voted remain so can’t answer the OP.

However at a recent family gathering, my older relations who voted for brexit were all a bit annoyed in one way or another by it, from the restricted travel, to increased immigration since brexit and the country basically being in a bit of a mess. There was low level grumbling and some sort of acceptance that leaving the EU hadn’t worked out as they’d hoped.

I’ve had so many arguments over brexit in the past that I realised you can’t force anyone to change their minds but there is a slow realisation that much damage has been done to the UK because of brexit.

No I didn’t because the opportunities have never been exploited. I now believe that there was never a hope that the powers that be would allow us the freedoms we voted for. I no longer believe in democracy. 😔

I thought the amount did go up by more than that anyway

No it really didn’t. The U.K. has always been able to licence its own medicines and make its own deals with manufacturers. You fell for Johnson’s lie.