If you voted for brexit did you get what you wanted?

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I’m definitely not a sneery anti-brexiter. I get that 50% of the population had legitimate concerns and did what they thought was best for the country. But my question is: did the thing that was so intolerable as a result of being a part of the EU get resolved for you by way of brexit?

I just don’t see what the point of it all was.

It's black and now made in France.

They're loads of them. And yes I am glad.

The vast, vast majority of people didn't know what they actually were voting for.

Surely that's not true. Brexit was debated for months and any information you needed was available on the internet. There was nothing but people on the radio, in newspapers and on the TV talking about leaving the EU.

@KurtCobainLover - what was restrictive and what has changed? I would really like to know. Everything is worse now as far as I can see in terms of restrictions.

@KurtCobainLover How, specifically?

Most people voted leave as they didn’t want us to have to bow down to mostly irrational rules and demands from the EU. I thought that was pretty obvious as every time the UK tried to implement our own rules to suit our own people, it was slapped down by the EU. Or the EU would force ridiculous rules and regulations on us. The fee they took from us for being part of this circus was absolutely huge, and made up of sums plucked out of their arses.

What were you asking ?

Didn't vote for Brexit and I cried when I heard we had voted to leave. Having a simple majority for such a huge decision was madness. I grew up in one of the areas that voted for Brexit. They had seen a huge influx of EU citizens who were able to work for less in multiple-occupancy properties etc.. and would work for less money and therefore wages went down. So I could see why they voted for Brexit. I think those who did vote Leave were highly let down by the Conservatives. I do wonder whether people were so complacent about many things before the vote. I would love for the UK to have a closer relationship to the EU and maybe rejoin (if they would have us and if terms were not terrible).

another Reasons lots of people I know had for voting to leave were the stated aims of “ever closer union” and the various things that had the potential to entail l. I never thought it unreasonable to have doubts about an overreaching government for the whole of a continent when that was the stated aim.

I personally have doubts that the European project in its current form can last. Not for the very long term. Trying to tie nations together under the same rules as if they all operate the same way and have the same culture and goals is risky. Without absolutely stellar leadership it’s easy for things to go off the rails.

The largest online search the day of the referendum result was “What is Brexit”.

There was someone interviewed on breakfast TV on result day that said “oh, I voted for Brexit but didn’t think my vote would count”.

I can’t remember if that was before or after Farage admitted that there was never going to be extra money for the NHS. “Writing something on a bus doesn’t mean it’s true.”

I genuinely despaired for Britain’s general levels of intelligence that day.

All the money no longer paid to the EU going to the NHS has made a huge difference hasn't it? Wasn't that one of the benefits? Then there's taking back borders and the associated fall in immigration. That's worked well too.

I do have a fetching blue passport, although I am fortunate enough to also have a burgundy EU one so I don't actually use the blue one.

One thing is for sure, everything is a lot worse than it was 10 years ago with everything being far more expensive.

I am of French heritage and have family members whose attitude to the UK boat problem is tant pis (too bad!) said with a certain sarcasm as the general attitude is that as Britain is only longer part of Europe anymore, then why should anyone give a fu ck!

When I was in Spain this summer, some Spanish people I was staying when complaining about all the asylum seekers suggested that all the migrants could be housed in Wales & Scotland as there is lots of green land. They were quite happy that they were leaving Europe and heading over here!

I think the general attitude post Brexit is that Britain is no longer of any concern to Europe.

well yes;
logically it is a completely nonsensical to fall out with all our closest neighbours isn’t it ? like falling out with next door neighbours- doesn’t really end well and feels very unpleasant all the time.

Colour me surprised.

I knew some people (of asian heritage) who voted for brexit on the basis that it was unfair that east European migrants got easier access to the UK. I imagine they did get what they wanted.

I thought that was pretty obvious as every time the UK tried to implement our own rules to suit our own people, it was slapped down by the EU. Or the EU would force ridiculous rules and regulations on us.

You'll have specific examples of the above to back up this claim, yes?

Redlettuce · Today 17:20

The problem is we had a lot of people running the UK that didn't believe in Brexit and were actually trying to undermine it so we got a poor deal.

So, nothing to do with duff Johnson loyalists, who didn't know how to negotiate, didn't bother to negotiate and had no understanding of what subjects they should have been negotiating for, much less why it was important.

The EU proffered a framework of what they thought was the minimum for starting negotiations. Our dear leaders went, "Oh ta! That'll do!"

People accused of trying to undermine Brexit were actually trying to get better deals for all sorts of businesses. It's only the simplest outpouring of the likes of the Mail and Express, which blamed them for a shitty deal and not believing hard enough in Brexit.

It could have been a lot better, had negotiations not been administered by lazy, slow-witted, arrogant appointees, who were under the misapprehension that the EU needed us more than we needed them and would come begging to us.

@Messen unfortunately not it seems. Even the main charity which supports tube fed people haven't got a solution other than lobbying for change. It's absolutely horrendous and the rules are written in such a way it covers ALL medical foods not just dairy. Homecare companies now also won't deliver holiday/travel supplies to Europe either. I'm pretty sure it must be a breach of human rights as effectively the rules have cut off access to Europe for a good number of disabled people including children. Many countries won't recognise a British prescription either so there is no way to get feed via that route.

One of the reasons I voted Brexit because I wanted less cheap eastern European labour to come to the U.K. so that employers would be forced to pay wages good enough to tempt people off the dole and into work.
Alas we're getting immigrants from further afield instead, so it didn't work the way I expected.

Not according to MN there aren’t….

It has been pretty widely reported and discussed that a lot of people didn't know exactly what they were voting for with Brexit and they didn't understand the widespread implications.

A lot of people voted for it simply because they thought it would solve illegal immigration (or low paid legal immigrants).

I think it is fair to say that unless people are proactive in educating themselves and are politically minded, it is easy to see how they may vote for something because social media says it will solve a particular issue.

I got a world beating healthcare system thanks to brexit giving loads of money to the nhs instead of those bureaucrats in Brussels.

Interesting, on pro Labour threads you don't get this version

Public opinion generally seems to be falling for them