DH and me on Mounjaro weightloss injections

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God I’m so fed up.

Usually my husband and myself diet together. We’ve done every diet under the sun and we support each other through it.

This time I decided to start mounjaro and he hasn’t. He’s not comfortable with his body what so ever and claims he’s the biggest he has ever been but won’t join me on this and doesn’t seem to be making any changes.

It feels like he’s jealous of me losing weight. He says I talk about it all the time but I don’t, he rolls his eyes when I mention anything iv lost, he never asks me how much iv lost or how am I doing. He’s not acknowledged any change in me. I tried a pair of jeans on today that I couldn’t even get up a few months ago and now I can do up! I told my daughter first and then went downstairs to tell him and all he said was “I heard you upstairs”.

iv been on it a month now and lost nearly 2 stones. Iv been unable to tell him or speak to him about how im feeling because he just says “you do talk about it a lot” I bloody don’t.

It’s really really getting me down. He’s making me feel embarrassed and ashamed for losing weight and being proud of myself. I don’t know what to do 😞

What crap!

Would you say the same to someone with mental health issues that use meds?

And there seems to be a real misunderstanding that people who are injecting are sitting on their arses, eating fatty takeaways!

I can't eat a lot of food so my meals have to be highly nutritional, I can't eat fatty food because it will make me ill.

And it's amazing you think anyone does anything hoping for you approval! 🤣

Don't be ridiculous. These injections last for a short space of time and then when they're gone, people have to deal with the reasons they'd gained weight to begin with.

Antidepressants or other meds for MH problems are used over longer periods of time, often in combination with therapy.

I don't think anyone does anything for my approval. Have you not read the bloody thread? OP is upset because her husband isn't offering approval/praise/support. I was reacting to that comment and why that might be.

You talk as if that might not have occurred to people who have been significantly overweight for most of their lifetime. Of course, therapy will fix it, silly me.

I well know what causes me to overeat, therapy is not needed to identify that. What has never worked is any kind of talking therapy to change that. Believe me I have tried several different approaches to this! You think that this is the first solution that people try?? No.

What is fascinating to me is the biological cause of the urges to snack and overeat. It's clearly something that is a physical response, and not a mental failing or a lack of good character. I view the injections as a way of getting my system back to how it might have been had I not been overweight since childhood and on a permanent gain/loss/more gain cycle since then.

Its up to your DH what he puts in his body. Oh wait a min Has the dial moved post Covid 🤔

If you know what's causing you to overeat, then why not...stop? Forgive me for my bluntness, but as someone who has successfully recovered from severe anorexia in my late teens (I'm now mid thirties), the only solution to my problems was...to stop!

Damn hard work. I struggled for a long time and lived with a lot of pain, as do most people who go through recovery. But if you know the problem, it's down to you to fix it.

I've been on the thread since it started, thanks.

If people want to use the injections to give themselves the headspace to figure out their relationship with food and the food noise then surely it's a good thing?

This whole mentality that we have to suffer to lose weight is horrid, we have to earn weight loss otherwise it's not valid!

I'm not just talking about weightloss. You're dreadfully defensive, aren't you?

I'm talking about finding the main cause of an eating disorder and recovering from it. Not just injecting shit into your body and hoping for the best. But you do you!

@GiddyRobin I am fixing it. Well done to you for overcoming anorexia, you are a much better person than I. You must have a much better character and much higher personal determination than me or most other people.

I sadly need the help of medication, and will no doubt immediately regain any weight loss. At least it's only my time and money I'm wasting. Like all the previous time and money I've spent on countless weight loss approaches that didn't work.

@GiddyRobin btw I don't have an eating disorder diagnosis, I don't have an eating disorder. You've decided that, based of your opinions alone. You have had an eating disorder and I wonder if you're perhaps projecting and that some things are triggering you that wouldn't trigger other people.

It's this kind of attitude I don't get. Why are you so defensive of this topic if you're so determined that it's going to work? You're the one who keeps bringing this down to strength of character. It's baffling.

Weight loss, just like weight gain, is simple at the base of it. You consume more or less and move more or less. Support from a therapist licensed in eating disorders is also advisable.

But like you say, it's your body and if you're not interested in having a polite conversation about it all, that's your right. Best of luck.

So insulin resistance is an eating disorder?

You talk like it's only an eating disorder that can cause weight gain but it's not! One poster on here said a side effect of her meds for an illness was weight gain, her meds changed and the new side effect was weight loss but she feels like she doesn't deserve the weight loss because she hasn't earned it! That's just so sad, why does weight loss need to be suffering and earned?

Plus, from your own experience, you should be more understanding of those who do want to help themselves. However, well done for over coming your eating disorder.

2 stone on a month is probably too much, too quick, surely? Re Dh maybe just dint lentil it at all, ie don't mention what you've lost.

You say you don't have an eating disorder, yet you say your brain gives you food noise, which presumably compels you to eat more than you should. That sounds like an eating disorder. If you haven't already, I'd speak to someone about that.

If you don't have an eating disorder, and the food noise isn't compelling you to eat more, I don't understand how this drug is supposed to help you.

That's silly.

Lots of us are doing some sort of therapy or have access to supplementary resources that help us reshape the way we think and interact with food.

Some of us have done therapy for overeating and without the medical intervention it has been unsuccessful.

And we do know the long term effects of obesity which include but aren't limited to: hypertension, high cholesterol, diabetes, organ failure, cancer, stroke, heart attacks and death.

Mind boggling that you think the route to treatment for obesity should be the same as restrictive eating disorders when they're two completely separate entities. If there was a medication that could be used to effectively reverse organ damage and increase the appetite of people with restrictive eating disorders that would be absolutely miraculous but at it's core restrictive eating disorders are usually stemmed from trauma with a need for control and a personal desire to improve is needed to recover from eating disorders with a massive failing mental health system behind it, a lack of inpatient beds within rehabilitation centres and sadly a large portion of people with restrictive eating disorders die. There's a huge comorbidity association between autism and conditions like anorexia and bulimia too and it requires a specialist and tailored approach.

Being obese and a disordered restrictive eater are not comparable.

Not everyone is overweight because of emotional eating. Weight gain can also happen for many other reasons like as a side effect to medication, see: basically any hormonal contraception, SSRIs, etc. The menopause/ageing, poor work life balance/life commitments and caring responsibilities. Again, a non-exhaustive list.

And finally obesity often is a lifelong issue, it will be something that we have to work on throughout the rest of our lives. There are lots of conditions and diseases which are lifelong and life limiting but they deserve attention and care for the rest of our lives as appropriate management of these conditions improves the quality of living and mitigates against developing other conditions.

I'm talking specifically about food noise. Not insulin resistance. Please read what's actually being written.

I am talking specifically about food noise. Those with medical conditions are a separate issue, though it's still entirely possible to lose weight without drugs.

Obesity doesn't just happen. Just as drastic weight loss doesn't just happen.

This thread is bizarre in places.

So using meds to cut out food noise to allow yourself to work on your relationship with food in preparation to come off the meds is wrong?

It isn't wrong, you're the one making this all about moral judgments. It just seems like a waste of money, a risk of health, all topped with a high likelihood that it won't work.

Dealing with food noise while there is no food noise isn't going to combat it long term. As soon as those thoughts begin again, it'll be far harder to stick to it.

@GiddyRobin what you seem to be absolutely missing is the fact that "food noise" is clearly a physical response. It is altered by the injections because it's altering your body chemistry. Did you miss the part where I explained how I have been overweight, obese, from childhood and been on a constant diet/gain cycle since then? That has had an effect on my ability to maintain a calorie deficit or even a calorie neutral diet. It's not something that therapy can tackle, it hasn't been something that therapy can tackle.

The injections are probably cheaper than private therapy!

It seems like a waste of money to you and that's ok.

@GiddyRobin the health risks are minimal and counterbalanced by the very real and ongoing risks of being long term obese. The injections do work, they produce weight loss. Maintaining after weight loss is an issue for all weight loss methods.

How is it clearly a physical response? Happy to read any studies that prove this is the case. The only physical response that I'm aware of is how stretched the stomach is or isn't from eating too much/too little.

The cycle you describe is mental. Stages of restriction and stages of overeating.

How do you know the health risks are minimal? Can the studies now see far into the future? Diet pills were also marketed as being safe. So was laudanum.

I can see you're talking about food noise but you're talking about something you actually don't know anything about and it's showing.

Food noise, the constant thinking about food, the cravings and how it drives you isn't a psychological issue. It's very much physiological and driven by hormones in our body. Those of us with insulin resistance which can be a cause of obesity and caused by obesity have an increase in hormones that drive hunger and fuel cravings for specific things usually sugar and carbs.

That's food noise. It's not a lack of willpower. It's not something you can CBT or DBT your way out of. Therapy can help you identify why you're eating the things you eat like it you're dopamine searching so you can make other choices but not every one is eating to fill an emotional gap.

Medical conditions and medication can also cause food noise because they interact with our physiology.