DH and me on Mounjaro weightloss injections

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God I’m so fed up.

Usually my husband and myself diet together. We’ve done every diet under the sun and we support each other through it.

This time I decided to start mounjaro and he hasn’t. He’s not comfortable with his body what so ever and claims he’s the biggest he has ever been but won’t join me on this and doesn’t seem to be making any changes.

It feels like he’s jealous of me losing weight. He says I talk about it all the time but I don’t, he rolls his eyes when I mention anything iv lost, he never asks me how much iv lost or how am I doing. He’s not acknowledged any change in me. I tried a pair of jeans on today that I couldn’t even get up a few months ago and now I can do up! I told my daughter first and then went downstairs to tell him and all he said was “I heard you upstairs”.

iv been on it a month now and lost nearly 2 stones. Iv been unable to tell him or speak to him about how im feeling because he just says “you do talk about it a lot” I bloody don’t.

It’s really really getting me down. He’s making me feel embarrassed and ashamed for losing weight and being proud of myself. I don’t know what to do 😞

Well that really depends on how much weight you have when you start.

OP has stated her start weight was particularly heavy, and as you lose weight the amount you lose does slow down any way, so for her losing weight this fast was probably significantly healthier than the alternative of not having the medication and retreading old steps that haven't worked before so won't work now.

It does reduce appetite and food noise. The effect does vary from person to person and depends on dose as well. You can still make bad food choices and can get hungry some days. It’s not a magic bullet but it is an incredibly useful tool.

They also have benefits. Better heart health seems to be a side effect of this. Also the main effect of losing weight- hugely beneficial to health

I'm just coming to the end of my 5mg pen, the suppression at first was amazing, I didn't want to eat much and didn't have the food noise, that wore off after the 2nd jab and my willpower had to kick in as I didn't want to eat normally and gain again. I'm due to take my first 7.5mg on Sunday, I'm hoping the suppression lasts longer and the food noise is silenced for a bit longer. We are all different though, there's not one size fits all, some have stayed on 2.5mg (loading dose) as that's working for them

Breaking habits.

The food noise goes, but people are still creatures of habit. It's easier to build new habits if you haven't got the constant cravings or noise.

And actually reversing insulin resistance has been shown that long term it does still reduce or stop the cravings and food noise so that you can continue with minimal weight regain. People who don't have insulin resistance won't get the same sugar cravings as someone who does have insulin resistance.

The medication is also really effective at helping to reduce the visceral fat surrounding organs, especially the liver, which allows the liver to regenerate healthy cells and ultimately makes your ability to break things down within your body a lot easier. Getting rid of that visceral fat is so important for healthy organ function and it's usually the type of fat that is clung to by other means of weight loss.

@oakleaffy fatty liver disease and thyroid cancer are not on the Mounjaro patient information leaflet as possible side effects. Pancreatitis is, as an Uncommon side effect. For people who are obese, and haven't managed to lose weight in the past, the risks of possible side effects outweigh the ongoing risks of being obese.

Mounjaro does not melt the fat away, you use it via eating less and moving more.
If hhe reason you can't lose weight is that you are constantly hungry and your body is deficient in thr hormones that tell you that you are full and hence you are craving food all the time.I have skinny adult children who rarely feel hungry and could quite happily forget to eat for a dayHow do you fix that?
MJ levels the playing field with those that are lucky enough to naturally have been dealt a differentbiological hand.zThe reason you don't like it is that you want to feel smug and as though it is something you have done rather well at, rather than pure dumb luck

2 stone in a month is a huge amount. I would speak to prescribing Doctor as you will end up malnourished.

2 stones when your starting weight is over 20 stones is not verging on malnutrition!

No one is going to get malnutrition in a month. You have no idea whether the OP has already spoken to the doctor in charge of prescribing, or what actions she might have taken.

It really isn't unreasonable not to want to use weight loss injections.

Injecting yourself with substances for weight loss is distasteful to some, it isn't to me but I can see the viewpoint.

And there are lots of possible side effects you aren't a doctor so don't say they are minimal as you don't know how some is going to react.

Mumsnet has got really weird towards people who just don't want to do it.

Well I know I still need to eat so I do eat something. This morning I have had melon and a plum. But I could have had a cake or a croissant. I still had to make the healthier choice.

I don't lose weight for the purpose of being congratulated.

2 stones IS a lot what ever your starting weight. I am prescribed it by a consultant and was told if I lost more than 5lb a week they would reduce my dose or take me off it completely if it was the lowest dose that led that to level of weight loss. He went to some length explaining that sudden drastic weight loss that isn't closely monitored by health professionals easily leads to malnutrition and other issues. But if you know more than an endocrinology consultant that's fine.

@JusteanBiscuits It depends on the starting weight, OP has said she was nearly at 27 stones so losing 2 stones at that weight by cutting out crap food and making healthier choices aided by injections is not going to cause malnutrition.

But yes, a starting weight of 10 stones losing 2 stones in a month is cause for concern.

A starting weight of 10 stone shouldn't be prescribed monjaro anyway.

A lack of intake that leads to a 1lb a DAY weight loss will lead to malnutrition.

@JusteanBiscuits I'm not saying it should! I'm just using that weight as an example!

And the rate of loss is not going to remain at 1lb a day though, is it?

It will slow down, plateau, the body adjusts and then begins to lose weight again if good habits are continued.

Well done op for taking control of this. You must be over the moon with your weightloss so far. Your on the right track here to become healthy, fitter and happy. Im not sure what you can do for your H. Its definitely not on for him to be so unsupportive

Weight loss is not linear and she will not remain at 1lb per day as her weight drops it will slow down.

She won't become malnourished because she has been eating in excess and suddenly is not eating in excess.

Bigger people lose weight quicker.

There is a higher chance that on the trajectory of weight gain OP was on that she would have a cardiac event or cause significant joint damage than there is of her becoming malnourished from following a healthy diet with the assistance of medication.

You can be prescribed mounjaro with a BMI of 30 or over or 27 if you have a comorbid condition like diabetes or high blood pressure.

You would not be prescribed mounjaro if you do not meet this criteria and haven't been vetted by a clinician.

‘‘Twas always thus. If you can afford to go private, why not 🤷‍♀️

I do understand weight loss. I just trust the word of a consultant more than randoms on the internet.

Oh, and to have a BMI of 30 at 10 stone, the person would need to be 4ft 8, or 4ft 11 for a BMI of 27. Which would be very unusual. Like I say, I am on mounjaro, prescribed by an endocrinology consultant with regular monitoring.

I agree this is a positive reason to do it. But you have to understand these are the kind of diets you must do only once. Because of the loss of muscle mass. Then stick to healthier eating habits.

Not enough is focused on the science of the importance of muscle mass for health in later life and longevity. We don't just have a problem with obesity, we are under muscled.

Tbh Id support my husband in using this stuff, only because he's diabetic. A medical need.

I do get the Heebies at the sheer amount of women who are on it and dropping stones really fast. Are we heading for a gallstones epidemic?

Your husband isn't being fair, he should allow you to be excited about losses. I'd hazard a guess this is more about him and how he feels about himself than it is about you.

It's hard to be on any sort of diet and build muscle mass irrespective of whether there is a medical intervention or not.

It's even harder if you don't have the added benefit of testosterone.

Lean muscle gain requires a lot of dedication to exercise. Even muscle maintenance does too.

If you're in a calorie deficit then you are using whatever stores of energy your body has. This is fat in this instance.

I think people also forget that to be lugging around well over 100kg of fat every single day you have got to have the muscle mass to accomodate those movements. I've probably got a higher muscle mass than someone else my age who's never breached 70kg.

Losing some of that muscle mass on balance with losing fat in the grand scheme of things is no bad thing.

Nobody who is taking mounjaro is taking it to go below a healthy BMI, it won't be prescribed to them. Presuming they can still walk and move at that healthy BMI, they can work on building muscle mass through lean gaining then. Nobody who is morbidly obese is going to do their joints any good, especially at 27 stone, if they start muscle building exercises on top of the weight they are already carrying.

So losing muscle mass should not be a deterrent for losing weight whether that's through diet and exercise or with medical intervention. Many of us won't have a later in life to have any health outcomes from if we don't drop the weight now.

Honestly this is such bollocks.

Several women at work have lost huge amounts going to slimming world. Some very fast. No one is gossiping about them probably taking injections.

A couple at work do take injections and are open about it.

And honestly, people lose weight and put it on all the time. Why would you jump to ‘must be weight loss injections’? And why would you care enough to even go through what they might or might not have done?

I am on MJ, been on it 2 days. I have already lost weight. But used this because despite being a health weight my entire life I had something awful happen, developed PTSD and stopped exercising as a result my PCOS and adhd became unbearable and then my mum died. I have only felt in a place in the last few months to tackle it and have decided that I wanted to try MJ to cut out the food noise and help my adhd. If anyone asks how I have lost it, I will be honest. But the food noise was making it almost impossible to concentrate on anything else. Diet and exercise and MJ. But most people who know me will just assume I am managing to return to the fit and healthy lifestyle I had for 35 years. You do realise some of us fat people haven’t always been fat? And that the vast majority know how to lose weight, we just have extra obstacles?

i also don’t buy that using injections is cheating. Or that making it harder for yourself makes it more of an achievement. You only know you own experience. Saying ‘it’s harder for me because I did it without injections’ means nothing. It might have been hard to you, but you don’t know what level of hard other people are finding it. They may have additional battles that you don’t have.

It’s like if 2 people took an exam and both found it hard. If one of those people have dyslexia their ‘hard’ is a whole other level to the others version of ‘hard’. The one with dyslexia would need other things to help them. Like extra time. Giving a person with dyslexia extra time in an exam doesn’t mean they find it easier than someone without dyslexia or doesn’t have to put as much effort in.

You may find something hard and achievable. For others it may be so hard it’s impossible without something extra to support.

If you can do it without injection, good for you. Be grateful. Don’t try and take something away from others. It doesn’t mean those who need something to help aren’t working as hard.