DH and me on Mounjaro weightloss injections

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God I’m so fed up.

Usually my husband and myself diet together. We’ve done every diet under the sun and we support each other through it.

This time I decided to start mounjaro and he hasn’t. He’s not comfortable with his body what so ever and claims he’s the biggest he has ever been but won’t join me on this and doesn’t seem to be making any changes.

It feels like he’s jealous of me losing weight. He says I talk about it all the time but I don’t, he rolls his eyes when I mention anything iv lost, he never asks me how much iv lost or how am I doing. He’s not acknowledged any change in me. I tried a pair of jeans on today that I couldn’t even get up a few months ago and now I can do up! I told my daughter first and then went downstairs to tell him and all he said was “I heard you upstairs”.

iv been on it a month now and lost nearly 2 stones. Iv been unable to tell him or speak to him about how im feeling because he just says “you do talk about it a lot” I bloody don’t.

It’s really really getting me down. He’s making me feel embarrassed and ashamed for losing weight and being proud of myself. I don’t know what to do 😞

So are you saying that every obese person taking this drug, who suffers from food noise, is struggling with insulin resistance? Please provide evidence that all food noise is caused by this.

I'm more than happy to read up on this.

Well surely you're capable of using Google?

You can do your own research on insulin resistance and the hormones responsible for hunger. You should probably start with Ghrelin.

Of course I am, but you're the one making claims so I'd love to be provided with reputable sources!

@GiddyRobin "diet pills" presumably you mean things that were basically speed? Do you think they went through the same testing process that modern medicines go through? As for laudanum, you're being absurd to compare a Victorian era drug to modern medicines and I'm surprised you can't see that.

It's clearly a physical response because immediately on taking the medication, my response to food changed. Why do you think it's not to do with the medication?

My point is that lots of things have been claimed to be safe. It doesn't mean that they are just because you want them to be.

Ah, okay. So your claim that this is a completely physical response is only through your experience of injecting yourself with said drugs, not through any rigorous scientific research? Cool.

I was giving you my personal experience. The medications of course have been extensively tested and have been shown to reduce appetite, create feelings of fullness for longer and feeling fuller sooner. So there's that.

Yes I can see that. But it doesn't prove that food noise is a purely physical issue. The reduction of appetite is one thing; food noise is another. Not only obese people suffer with food noise.

@GiddyRobin also, if choosing examples of medications declared to be safe enough for prescription, best to choose examples from modern medicine that complied with the same standard of testing that drugs now on the market have.

Nothing is "safe". But they are low risk, and the risks of side effects or adverse reactions is significantly outweighed by their therapeutic use. Hence being approved in the UK for weight loss.

Yes, I am aware of that. My comment was sarcastic - hence the mentioning of laudanum. I see that wasn't picked up.

I suppose neither of us can truly say how low risk or safe these drugs are. However, I still cannot see how they can solve the core issue. I suppose we'll just have to see how people get on when their year is up.

You have a difference of opinion, that’s all. Your lack of community outside of your relationship to share your experiences is your responsibilityn not his. You need to respect his decision/ opinion just as much you expect him to respect yours.

I'm not making claims. I'm stating facts.

People with insulin resistance can't process insulin properly. This can lead to weight gain, and causes cravings for carbs and sugars.

People who gain weight can become insulin resistant and that's how you get prediabetics and diabetes type 2.

It doesn't matter how they became obese whether that's through primarily overeating or secondary to a condition or medication. They're not exempt from developing insulin resistance.

Once you are insulin resistant then you can't really reverse that without intervention.

It's not my job to educate you. You've clearly got an agenda against people trying to use modern medicine to benefit their health with a faux concern for side effects.

Google scholarly articles are free. You can browse them at your own leisure. Or you can continue arguing with people on mumsnet.

My point is that not every person who is obese suffers from these conditions.

I'm really confused as to why you're pushing this one agenda. Not everyone is obese for the same reason.

Your reluctance to provide sources to back up this claim is baffling.

Potentially.

But my PCOS symptoms will reduce when I am a normal weight (I was a normal weight my whole life) which contributes to cravings, tiredness etc.

I am also building back up my exercise which helped me keep my adhd in check. So by the time I come off it, I will be back in the situation I was in for years. Which was handling my PCOS and adhd and food noise not being a huge issue.

Unfortunately, my ADHD on top of being attacked and developing PTSD, losing my mum and trying to deal with it all in pandemic wasn’t great for me and threw me into a spiral.

So I hope it will be easier to deal with. But what if it’s not? It’s still worth a try. I can either be obese and dealing with my issues. Or a healthy weight, able to exercise, less PCOS symptoms, less disruption from my adhd and dealing with my issues. The second one sounds far happy version of me and I would like to give it a try.

The vast majority of people who are overweight/obese even morbidly obese dont have MH issues or eating disorders. We're in a society and culture where we just eat too much, its enjoyable, easy and cheap. Its also encouraged.

Most people just need a mechanism that will work that prevents wanting to or desiring the volume of food they eat

My personal experience has been this:

Up until 25, I was slim. As in 20% body fat, fit, toned, muscular. On the lower end of healthy BMI. I had been a consistent weight too for the previous decade- just replacing fat with muscle.

en route to turning 26, I went through extreme stress and by the time I was 27 my BMI had increased to obese. As I’m very short, it only took around 20kg over 2 years to get me from healthy to class 1 obese.

So I had counselling and CBT. They gave me advice but it pretty much started and ended with download this app, told to “make the change for you”, listen to sleep hypnosis etc. So I actually did seek mental health support first - but frankly there isn’t much support they can give. I think you’re naive about what therapy does!

I’m 28 now and MJ has helped me break the cycle of yo-yo dieting. As I used to naturally be slim and eat less, it’s helping me adopt my previous lifestyle on the days my mental health would have caused me to relapse. Plus my only diagnosis is stress due to my work. I know my mental health with improve once I have a different job, but also once I’m back to my normal weight.

Ok then Lets mention oooh Zantac More commonly known by its proper medical name Ranitidine. Available OTC and prescribed by GPs (in stronger doses) for 38 years then all of a sudden back in 2019 Oh no sorry there are carcinogens in this that can cause cancer so we are taking it out of circulation and not making it anymore.

So, do you not take any medication, ever?

Of course i bloody do Thats not the point. Or are you saying that when we are told something is safe we should automatically NOT believe it Cos that went down really well re. Covid vaccines didnt it. You are just pissed that i came up with a recent example instead of something like laudanum It cant be argued that the Ranitidine example was hundreds of years ago,

You do know that the injections don’t melt away fat on their own? You still have to eat less (moving more is great for health but really doesn’t work for weight loss unless it’s extreme).

They regulate hunger hormones in people whose hormones have been disrupted by previous failed diets, ultra processed food or a genetic propensity to weight gain. It’s still an achievement and it still takes effort.

Without them, it would be impossible for me to lose weight - I have been trying for years and years.

The ‘food noise’ is driven by hormones. Therapy does not fix hormones.

Why would I be pissed off you came up with an example?

I asked a question. Why are you so angry?

I am not following your point. Any medication could be deemed safe today and as science moves on later be deemed unsafe?

In 2023 the risks of Zantac were disputed. And it’s really not as simple as it was classed as safe one day and not another.

you were arguing that we have recent cases of drugs that were deemed safe and then it comes out years later they are not as safe as previously thought. That’s always going to happen.

Very true. I was just eating shit things….Cakes, fried food (we eat an enormous amount of this in this country), fast food, snacks, crisps. Cut all of that out and basically eat plant based diet, healthy soups and stews etc. weight has gone. No UPF. It’s fairly simple but it takes a lot of self control and a total mind shift to how I see and relate to food. Go to Japan and you will see how little junk food or processed food there is there, hence no real obesity issues as it’s all very healthy stuff.

A weight loss injection?

There are no quick fixes when it comes to weightloss - its a matter of moving more and consuming less calories.

If these injections were safe ti use tgen doctors would be prescribing them regularly.

He's probably worried about you; they aren't licensed at all and people have been hospitalised by them.
And when people stop taking them they instantly regain their weight.
If you want to lost weight do it properly