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DH and me on Mounjaro weightloss injections

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WaffleDogg20 · 06/09/2024 06:57

God I’m so fed up.

Usually my husband and myself diet together. We’ve done every diet under the sun and we support each other through it.

This time I decided to start mounjaro and he hasn’t. He’s not comfortable with his body what so ever and claims he’s the biggest he has ever been but won’t join me on this and doesn’t seem to be making any changes.

It feels like he’s jealous of me losing weight. He says I talk about it all the time but I don’t, he rolls his eyes when I mention anything iv lost, he never asks me how much iv lost or how am I doing. He’s not acknowledged any change in me. I tried a pair of jeans on today that I couldn’t even get up a few months ago and now I can do up! I told my daughter first and then went downstairs to tell him and all he said was “I heard you upstairs”.

iv been on it a month now and lost nearly 2 stones. Iv been unable to tell him or speak to him about how im feeling because he just says “you do talk about it a lot” I bloody don’t.

It’s really really getting me down. He’s making me feel embarrassed and ashamed for losing weight and being proud of myself. I don’t know what to do 😞

OP posts:
Jimmyneutronsforehead · 06/09/2024 12:53

Crunchymum · 06/09/2024 10:33

And to those of you who say people don't know you are on MJ. People know.

Sudden and noticeable weightloss is usually down to to one of two things? Illness or weightloss injections.

We don't care.

onfiree · 06/09/2024 12:54

It sounds like he wants you to be fat, like he’s sabotaging your success. Tbh I wonder if he purposely sabotaged your diet plans before which is why they never worked

Buddenbruchs · 06/09/2024 12:55

What’s food noise ? Seems a new term.

SilenceInside · 06/09/2024 12:59

@Buddenbruchs "food noise" is what some people using Mounjaro have realised was going on constantly in their heads, which the injection has stopped. In some cases immediately. That happened for me. I used to have a pretty constant inner dialogue about what to eat, what not to eat, why I should/shouldn't, calculating calorie contents of various possible foods, emotional self abuse about snacking/overeating, how I could buy icecream without my partner really noticing... constant. I have had that for decades, since childhood and hadn't ever realised that lots of people don't have it. If I saw snacks that I usually over ate with, it would go into overdrive.

About an hour after the first injection, I realised that it had all stopped.

mm81736 · 06/09/2024 12:59

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 06/09/2024 12:53

We don't care.

Why would it have to be one of those 2?People lost weight before weight loss injections you know!

Princessandthepie · 06/09/2024 13:04

Buddenbruchs · 06/09/2024 12:55

What’s food noise ? Seems a new term.

Food noise is the constant, running commentary in your head that goes on.

"You're not hungry, don't eat, but there's biscuits, I know there's biscuits, how many calories, god why can't I just stop thinking about biscuits? Do people think I'm disgusting because I'm fat, why can't I just eat better, why do I fail all the time? If I finish all the food on my plate will people just think I'm greedy? Have i lost weight? Why havent i lost weight when i did everything right yesterday" And on it goes!

If you don't have this, great for you, but just because it's a new term, doesn't make it not real.

SwiftiesVSLestat · 06/09/2024 13:06

Buddenbruchs · 06/09/2024 12:55

What’s food noise ? Seems a new term.

It’s something many people live with. But as with anything that’s always been there you believe it’s normal.

Until it’s not. Or until you speak to people and discover it’s not.

It’s a new term for something that’s always existed. Some people have a Preoccupation with certain things. For some people it’s food.

If you don’t know what it is, or it doesn’t make sense to you then your brain likely doesn’t work that way.

I have adhd so, sometimes the food noise is drowned out about something else that’s become my special interest of the month. But the noise becomes about that. This spring it was my garden. I became obsessive. In my head was constant thoughts about what I wanted to to, what I could afford to do, was it a sensible idea to spend that much on it, doesn’t matter if it’s sensible it’s making me (temporarily) happy, how can I earn more to pay for extras, how can I get a promotion to have that extra money (not easy when you brain wants to think about the garden not your job) and so on and so forth. And when I have been through everything you go back to the beginning. In my case it’s not always about food but it’s always about something. More often than not food. I also have PCOS which also brings issues with cravings and food.

The last 2 days I have been more clear headed and my head has been quieter than it has in years.

Choochoo21 · 06/09/2024 13:08

Well done on your weight loss OP.

These injections aren’t perfect but they are the lesser of 2 evils when someone is morbidly obese and at risk of suffering all types of illnesses.

Your DH is just jealous that you are doing so well.

Unfortunately, this isn’t a new thing.

Many men are very happy for their partners to go on a weight loss journey, until they actually start feeling good about themselves and looking and feeling better.

If someone is struggling with their weight then it’s unfair to talk too much about your weight loss (I’m sure you’ve been there yourself too) but you shouldn’t feel ashamed of your achievements.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 06/09/2024 13:11

mm81736 · 06/09/2024 12:59

Why would it have to be one of those 2?People lost weight before weight loss injections you know!

And people will continue to lose weight with injections.

Are you generally wary of medical advancements or is this a new concern for you?

Mounjaroooooh · 06/09/2024 13:13

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 06/09/2024 13:11

And people will continue to lose weight with injections.

Are you generally wary of medical advancements or is this a new concern for you?

I don't think @mm81736 was dissing the injections, more likely dissing the OP who said people know you're on mounjaro if you lose a lot of weight, because people never lost a lot of weight before the jab

MigGril · 06/09/2024 13:16

I'm not against these drugs being used for weight loss and I think they are really beneficial for obese individuals.

I do think that they shouldn't be available as they currently are outside a clinical setting. If that be on the NHS or in a private clinic where you can get both nurtion and exercise support to use these drugs correctly. You do need to change your diet and add exercise in order to be able to come of them long term and I think they way they are being sold at the moment only really benefits the drug manufactures. Who will make more profits from people who will yo-yo diet on them.

Yes some people will use them correctly on their own, but to many won't either know how to or what to do in order to stop taking them. I only see the drug companies really benefiting long term from the current setup.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 06/09/2024 13:17

Mounjaroooooh · 06/09/2024 13:13

I don't think @mm81736 was dissing the injections, more likely dissing the OP who said people know you're on mounjaro if you lose a lot of weight, because people never lost a lot of weight before the jab

Edited

Ah I see. Might have misinterpreted that one. Sorry Mm

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 06/09/2024 13:30

Buddenbruchs · 06/09/2024 07:41

Similar to those having gastric bands. Well done but it’s certainly not using the same degree of will power than those who’ve done it naturally.
I put on 2 stone through illness and meds. I’ve lost a stone but struggling to loose the rest. Feel guilty saying this but it’s galling to see how easy it is for some using mounjaro etc but the rest of us don’t have that option.

My weight gain was mostly due to medication, side effects, which feels really unfair on top of being sick since my teens. Whenever I've been doing better and able to come off that medication for a bit I've been able to lose weight through calorie restriction. I've recently had a new medication added that can cause lack of appetite and weightloss as a side effect and am losing weight slowly. I knew this was possible so ive been cutting out as much as i can. Although it's still taking effort to lose the weight It doesn't really feel like I've earnt the weightloss.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 06/09/2024 13:40

HappyShake · 06/09/2024 08:28

Would some people have the same attitude to those with MH issues using medication? Would they think the person is taking the easy route rather than eg exercise, mindfulness, CBT?

Also a comment by a pp about those around BMI of 30 lying to get the drugs - so what? If there's no supply issues what difference does it make to you? BMI of 30 is still in the obese category (27 for some ethnic groups) and associated health risks. We've really lost sight of what a normal size should be.

Lots of people think that way about medication for depression and anxiety.
Whether the lying matters will depend on the reason for the cut off. It may be that that is the point at which it's considered the risks associated with taking the drug are not justified by the potential positive outcomes from taking it. Use of medication is always a case of weighing the risks versus the benefits, at some weight the risks at a population level may outweigh the benefits at a population level.

Princessandthepie · 06/09/2024 13:40

@EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness I find it really sad that you feel like you haven't
earnt the weight loss, you didn't deserve the weigh gain in the first place. You don't need to do 15 hours in a gym every day to earn weight loss.

W0tnow · 06/09/2024 13:43

2 stone in a month is insane. You think it’s all fat? You’ve lost muscle too.

Mounjaroooooh · 06/09/2024 13:54

W0tnow · 06/09/2024 13:43

2 stone in a month is insane. You think it’s all fat? You’ve lost muscle too.

Nah, it won't be muscle, probably won't even be fat yet, mostly water weight. I lost 8lbs in my first week, I know that wasn't fat or muscle

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 06/09/2024 13:57

soupfiend · 06/09/2024 08:43

Losing weight and increasing her life expectancy, that sort of long term impact?

What are the risks associated with it then? List them out

All medications carry risks and cause side effects. It would be stupid to think they know everything about this drug and its long term effects, the studies simply don't cover enough to say that. The studies are also not necessarily reflective of real life when people outside the target groups using it, with BMI below the minimum, and people staying on it long term which isn't the intended way to use it, but I've seen talked about on here. Risk versus benefits changes based on the risk for specific groups. People should make health decisions with all the facts and shouldn't be deciding they're happy to use this based upon the idea that its magically risk free. Long term consequences are still largely an unknown and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that. The answer may be there's no major long term negatives, or it may not, we won't know that for sure until 30 to 40 years down the line. All sorts of drugs get approved that are later found to have long term health consequences that result in the drug getting pulled from the market. Pharmaceutical companies have faced and been beaten in class actions bought due to failure to disclose known dangerous side effect.

onfiree · 06/09/2024 13:58

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 06/09/2024 08:10

If we have a bmi of 45 and have T2 are we allowed to be a bit more concerned that so many women are lying about their weight to get these injections online? You just need to read the threads to see many on bmi of 30 admitting they lied and worried they won't continue to get it from their supplier soon.

Maybe the NHS should be the only way to get them through prescribing them and monitoring them in person by actually weighing patients. As it is some regions won't prescribe them and others have 2 year wait lists.

To be honest I think you need to give your head a wobble. BMI 30 IS obese. It’s an abnormal BMI, it’s class 1 obesity. At BMI 45, you might be class 3 obese, but 30 is obese nonetheless. I hate this competitive fatness about weight loss injections, just because someone had the wherewithal to do something about their obesity as soon as they became obese, doesn’t mean they’re less deserving of treatment. Just because you are significantly obese, doesn’t mean you’re more deserving of treatment. Your attitude is weird.

W0tnow · 06/09/2024 13:59

Mounjaroooooh · 06/09/2024 13:54

Nah, it won't be muscle, probably won't even be fat yet, mostly water weight. I lost 8lbs in my first week, I know that wasn't fat or muscle

2 whole stone? Ok then. I’m not sure how you’d distinguish between water, fat and muscle.

Mounjaroooooh · 06/09/2024 14:02

W0tnow · 06/09/2024 13:59

2 whole stone? Ok then. I’m not sure how you’d distinguish between water, fat and muscle.

Apologies I read it wrong, I didn't realise it was over 2 months. But I stand by big losses in the first week is unlikely to be fat/muscle!

JusteanBiscuits · 06/09/2024 14:17

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 06/09/2024 12:50

It's hard to be on any sort of diet and build muscle mass irrespective of whether there is a medical intervention or not.

It's even harder if you don't have the added benefit of testosterone.

Lean muscle gain requires a lot of dedication to exercise. Even muscle maintenance does too.

If you're in a calorie deficit then you are using whatever stores of energy your body has. This is fat in this instance.

I think people also forget that to be lugging around well over 100kg of fat every single day you have got to have the muscle mass to accomodate those movements. I've probably got a higher muscle mass than someone else my age who's never breached 70kg.

Losing some of that muscle mass on balance with losing fat in the grand scheme of things is no bad thing.

Nobody who is taking mounjaro is taking it to go below a healthy BMI, it won't be prescribed to them. Presuming they can still walk and move at that healthy BMI, they can work on building muscle mass through lean gaining then. Nobody who is morbidly obese is going to do their joints any good, especially at 27 stone, if they start muscle building exercises on top of the weight they are already carrying.

So losing muscle mass should not be a deterrent for losing weight whether that's through diet and exercise or with medical intervention. Many of us won't have a later in life to have any health outcomes from if we don't drop the weight now.

read the Mounjaro threads here!! People ARE taking them below a BMI of 30. They admit to lying to get it.

Mounjaroooooh · 06/09/2024 14:23

JusteanBiscuits · 06/09/2024 14:17

read the Mounjaro threads here!! People ARE taking them below a BMI of 30. They admit to lying to get it.

I'd still be overweight with a BMI of 30 so I'll still be taking it until I get to my goal weight, as long as the Zavamed keep prescribing it for me

JusteanBiscuits · 06/09/2024 14:27

Mounjaroooooh · 06/09/2024 14:23

I'd still be overweight with a BMI of 30 so I'll still be taking it until I get to my goal weight, as long as the Zavamed keep prescribing it for me

There are examples in the threads of people who are NOT overweight taking it and admitting to lying to continue to lose weight or not gain it.

This has led to supply issues for similar drugs before. I will be on it for life - or rather until they come up with a better drug for me - as evidence shows it helps with the symptoms of the adrenal tumours I have. 8 weeks in I haven't seen much affect from it personally, but I was warned I probably wouldn't until I reached the 15mg and possibly even 20mg.

SilenceInside · 06/09/2024 14:30

No one is advocating for anyone to lie and to fraudulently obtain a prescription for a treatment that isn't suitable for them. Providers should be doing everything they can to prevent that. Personally I would always (and have) challenge anyone on a thread who states they are doing that.

People who have been using the treatment for a long period of time and are now under a BMI of 30 will continue to be able to have the prescription until they reach an agreed target weight in the healthy range.

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