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Can I have your honest opinion on this situation please!

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Mrsgrapesauce · 04/09/2024 10:10

I work 30 hours so I am at home all day WFH.
DH works 5 hours 3 evenings a week.

I have put DS into nursery 6 hours a day 4 days a week and DH doesn’t agree with me says it’s wrong and selfish and that DS is to young.

I have told DH now the kids are at school and nursery he needs to be looking at going into full time work or working more hours.

His argument is that he wants to be at home and be here for the kids if they need him.

My work is very flexible so I can up and leave if I need to.

I want to take some of the stress of my self paying all bills holidays days out ect.

aibu?

OP posts:
HeySummerWhereAreYou · 04/09/2024 10:54

@Mrsgrapesauce

Eh? Confused

Your DH works 5 hours, 3 evenings a week? So 15 hours a week? Is this a joke?

WHY does he work so few hours? Is he even making any national insurance contributions?!

NewFriendlyLadybird · 04/09/2024 10:55

48Hourss · 04/09/2024 10:44

There's no kids there in the day. OP is there if needed for the kids. That's precisely what the post says.

But the OP is working.

Mrsgrapesauce · 04/09/2024 10:58

DH was looking after DS previously during the day. But nothing was getting done house was a mess DH was falling asleep on the sofa. He wasn’t taking him anywhere it was the same thing day in day out Ds was running into my office when I was in meetings it was a nightmare. DS is a very difficult child he’s needs structure and routine he was staying up to nearly 11 at night before! He’s been to nursery 2 days and he is already a much better child.

So I decided to put DS into nursery as this might give DH a push to find some better work and also giving DS more structure.

We both share household chores

OP posts:
NewFriendlyLadybird · 04/09/2024 10:58

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 04/09/2024 10:54

@Mrsgrapesauce

Eh? Confused

Your DH works 5 hours, 3 evenings a week? So 15 hours a week? Is this a joke?

WHY does he work so few hours? Is he even making any national insurance contributions?!

Because those are the hours that are available? Because that was the only job that would allow him to work and be at home during the day for the children? Because the employer didn’t want to offer any more hours so they wouldn’t have the expenses that come with employing someone for 16 hours a week or more?

48Hourss · 04/09/2024 11:00

As per my previous comment, he's a lazy fucker.

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/09/2024 11:00

ok - given DH sounds like a terrible SAHP, YANBU 😂

Notimeforaname · 04/09/2024 11:01

I don't understand. Why isn't he looking after the kids at home if that's what he wants?

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 04/09/2024 11:01

NewFriendlyLadybird · 04/09/2024 10:58

Because those are the hours that are available? Because that was the only job that would allow him to work and be at home during the day for the children? Because the employer didn’t want to offer any more hours so they wouldn’t have the expenses that come with employing someone for 16 hours a week or more?

Yeah I doubt that very much.

NewFriendlyLadybird · 04/09/2024 11:04

Mrsgrapesauce · 04/09/2024 10:58

DH was looking after DS previously during the day. But nothing was getting done house was a mess DH was falling asleep on the sofa. He wasn’t taking him anywhere it was the same thing day in day out Ds was running into my office when I was in meetings it was a nightmare. DS is a very difficult child he’s needs structure and routine he was staying up to nearly 11 at night before! He’s been to nursery 2 days and he is already a much better child.

So I decided to put DS into nursery as this might give DH a push to find some better work and also giving DS more structure.

We both share household chores

Your decision makes sense, but it still betrays a woeful lack of communication between the two of you. Was there a point at which you said, you have to be a much more active carer or I will have to put child into nursery?

But sometimes I despair of people. My DH was the SAHP and was perfectly active and competent. We sent DS to nursery one day a week as a toddler as it was nice for him to play with other children. DD went to nursery for 3 days and DH got a job for those days.

PrimalOwl10 · 04/09/2024 11:04

Your husband is lazy how can he not care that your doing the majority of the work load. Your basically a single parent.

BMW6 · 04/09/2024 11:04

Right, so DH does minimal work for £££££ and is a shite SAHP, so you end up doing the majority of childcare, housework AND earning the money.

Why are you still married to him?

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 04/09/2024 11:05

Mrsgrapesauce · 04/09/2024 10:58

DH was looking after DS previously during the day. But nothing was getting done house was a mess DH was falling asleep on the sofa. He wasn’t taking him anywhere it was the same thing day in day out Ds was running into my office when I was in meetings it was a nightmare. DS is a very difficult child he’s needs structure and routine he was staying up to nearly 11 at night before! He’s been to nursery 2 days and he is already a much better child.

So I decided to put DS into nursery as this might give DH a push to find some better work and also giving DS more structure.

We both share household chores

I really don't understand why people don't give relevant information in the first place if they want people's honest opinions on a situation.

Him not actually looking after your son while he's home all day is massively relevant and will obviously change the responses.

I'm not sure that nursery will solve the fundamental issue of your DH not doing anything. Although it sounds like it will benefit your son.

Cinai2 · 04/09/2024 11:05

Ok, so reading your update, I think it needs a conversation of what works best for your family. I think it’s reasonable to work 15 hours per week and take the child care duties, but he needs to be able to manage DS and provide structure. If he isn’t, then it’s better to look for a nursery. Have an open conversation about expectations and what’s best for DS?

nosleepforme · 04/09/2024 11:05

Really depends how old the child is! Nursery means different things to different ppl. For me, nursery is 2-3 yo, then kindergarten, then reception.
but you do say it wasn’t working and since starting, in just 2 days your kid is happier so sounds like it was the right decision!
dh can work, you’re flexible anyway, and with the extra income, you can afford a cleaner for a couple of hours to keep on top of housework.
but it doesn’t sound like dh is on the same page as you. He’s only asking now about why kid is out. Why did he not know before? Seems odd he wouldn’t have known and thought about what he’d like to do with the time.

GreatMistakes · 04/09/2024 11:05

So he's working while they are home but wants to be home all day alone to "be thre for them"? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

NoSquirrels · 04/09/2024 11:05

Mrsgrapesauce · 04/09/2024 10:58

DH was looking after DS previously during the day. But nothing was getting done house was a mess DH was falling asleep on the sofa. He wasn’t taking him anywhere it was the same thing day in day out Ds was running into my office when I was in meetings it was a nightmare. DS is a very difficult child he’s needs structure and routine he was staying up to nearly 11 at night before! He’s been to nursery 2 days and he is already a much better child.

So I decided to put DS into nursery as this might give DH a push to find some better work and also giving DS more structure.

We both share household chores

Sounds like a difficult situation.

How long has your DH been primarily a SAHP? How did the initial agreement come about?

Octopies · 04/09/2024 11:05

Reading your last post YANBU. It sounds like your DH is looking for an easy ride and using 'childcare' as an excuse to not work. If he was looking after the kids properly that would be different. If you carry on as you were, chances are your DS would struggle a lot with the transition to school if he's not used to going to bed at a sensible time etc.

Procrastinates · 04/09/2024 11:07

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 04/09/2024 11:05

I really don't understand why people don't give relevant information in the first place if they want people's honest opinions on a situation.

Him not actually looking after your son while he's home all day is massively relevant and will obviously change the responses.

I'm not sure that nursery will solve the fundamental issue of your DH not doing anything. Although it sounds like it will benefit your son.

I agree that its frustrating that such important information wasn't included in the first post and also agree that him attending nursery won't actually resolve your real issue.

Trickedbyadoughnut · 04/09/2024 11:08

I think the decision to have a stay-at-home parent is one that has to be a joint decision, whatever the circumstances. I have been the sole breadwinner at times and it really is another layer of stress.

Usually I would say the same for the decisions on placing a child in a nursery, but given your update, it seems like you've taken the decision for the good of your child, so I really can't blame you on that!

The issues sounds like pretty serious ones - have you been able to talk them through with him at all, or won't he discuss it? Would you consider counselling?

sandyhappypeople · 04/09/2024 11:10

Mrsgrapesauce · 04/09/2024 10:58

DH was looking after DS previously during the day. But nothing was getting done house was a mess DH was falling asleep on the sofa. He wasn’t taking him anywhere it was the same thing day in day out Ds was running into my office when I was in meetings it was a nightmare. DS is a very difficult child he’s needs structure and routine he was staying up to nearly 11 at night before! He’s been to nursery 2 days and he is already a much better child.

So I decided to put DS into nursery as this might give DH a push to find some better work and also giving DS more structure.

We both share household chores

So I decided to put DS into nursery as this might give DH a push to find some better work and also giving DS more structure.

Why do you get to decide on that. I think it's something you should have discussed and given DH a chance to change things round so it works, on paper your setup sounds ideal, one parent working almost full time, and the other working part time in the evenings and able to do childcare in the daytime?

What is the real problem here? If you are only working 30 hours a week and DH is only working 15 hours a week you should be pissing all the household chores between you? Don't you communicate at all?

banoffeelover · 04/09/2024 11:11

48Hourss · 04/09/2024 10:38

The OP is stressed trying to pay bills, the DH is only working 15 hours a week and saying he wants to be there in case the kids need him, the OP works from home so is there if needed. To me that's laziness from the DH not wanting to work more hours when there clearly is perfect opportunity to work more hours.

I do think this is a reverse, or the DH is likely the DW....but my opinion is the same. If the family need more money, there is perfect earning potential but that person is choosing to stay home.....do the maths.

If OP is stressed trying to pay bills why isn't she working FT? If DH is the SAHP why is she only working the equivalent of a 4 day week? If she increased her hours to FT, boom thats a 20% increase on earnings right there.

Aldo if you read the OP properly it isn't that DH only needs to be there in case the kids need him. DH needed to be there to look after DC, but OP shipped said child off to nursery without discussing it (hence adding financical pressure onto the family) and instructed DH to find additional work.

ScribblingPixie · 04/09/2024 11:13

I think you should do what is best for your children, and also for yourself. IMO, your DH is lazy and sponging off you rather than fulfilling there role of a SAH parent, and is extremely unlikely to change his ways. Make your decisions based on the reality of the situation rather than what you hope it might be.

banoffeelover · 04/09/2024 11:14

48Hourss · 04/09/2024 11:00

As per my previous comment, he's a lazy fucker.

Your ability to read the OP correctly, assess the siutation and provide adequate advice is the thing that's lazy here.

pinkyredrose · 04/09/2024 11:16

Barrenfieldoffucks · 04/09/2024 10:11

Why is he at nursery and not at home with DH?

Exactly. He wants to be 'home with the kids' so who isn't he?

Mumlaplomb · 04/09/2024 11:18

It’s very tricky working from home with young children present, if the parent who is supposed to be looking after them isn’t doing it properly so I can understand why you have resorted to nursery. However I think you need to speak to him to explain the issues and come to a decision as to how to move forward with work and parenting together.