Feral children

[Overbearingndn]

Several children, have been arrested in connection with the death of an 80 year old dog walker.

What is wrong with children today? I remember the Bulger case and it sent shockwaves around the world, now people just accept that children kill.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/five-children-arrested-over-murder-80-year-old-man-in-leicestershire

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Parent absolutely need to be prosecuted for their offspring who behave in this way. I do not accept the whole, 'well my kids don't listen to me and I don't know where they are' excuse. If parents do the right job and parent their children from a young age and bring them up to be respectful and kind then the vast majority of these incidents would never happen.

What about "the sins of the father?" If it's unacceptable to punish children for what their parents do, why is the other way round acceptable? It's a slippery slope when you start punishing people for other's actions.

And get the parents doing community service as well.

I’m willing to bet they go to a comfortable place where they have all the latest tech and perks, do some education if they can be bothered and have a comfier life than a lot of kids their age.
Yes, parenting is problematic these days, but also there isn’t much of a punishment for vile criminals, and the criminals know it.

Thats a massive assumption given the UK's use of Asian spans quite a wide range of ethnic groups - from India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey, wider Arabic states etc.

Oh come on. The kinds of chaotic families that almost certainly produced these kids do not practice gentle parenting. That’s a strictly bourgeois indulgence.

Because as a parent it is your job to take responsibility for your children until they are adults. It's not up to children to be responsible for the parents.

If you choose to have children you need to be prepared to actually parent them.

They're sent to young offenders places where they're given counselling, lots of opportunities to con gullible child psychologists, plenty of nice things to do and nursemaided through their exams. Free at 18 to resume their psychopathic ways no doubt.

Nothing is wrong with children today, but a lot is wrong with parents today.

This is a complete and utter parenting failure. Children need to be brought up thinking this sort of behaviour is acceptable.

Would any of your children go out and assault someone so severely they end up dying?

Probably feral via several generations.

There is a video on you tube of the Rotherham riots, and a red- headed child said {of the riots} ''Lovin it! best day o' me life!''

These children are going to be having their own children very soon, keeping the cycle going of aggressive, out of control children, raised by parent/s that couldn't care less.

It's FAR too easy to pop children out and let them run riot.

Some of these comments are wild! How have we gone from children killing to gentle parenting is to blame? It is far more likely that these children have been witness to and/or subjected to violence. This is slightly more than being a little entitled and not being told no, this is extreme for such young ages and the likelihood is that they have also seen, heard and been on the end of violence.

That poor man. His poor family. I can’t even comprehend that happening to my elderly relatives. Some people are pure evil.

I hope his dog escaped the attack unharmed and isn’t traumatised by the event.

Thank you. Voice of sanity.

Well yes exactly. Which is why the parents need to face some sort of consequences.

This is a silly view. I absolutely think that if the parents were complicit in behaviour they should be prosecuted but there is grooming, mental health issues and a whole host of other reasons why a child might commit a serious crime and it has nothing to do with the parents.

Plus adding to the gene pool of out of control children themselves once they get to puberty.

Awful. It's a parental responsibility to care for and discipline children. And if they had been reported before but the police did fuck all? Failing.

That is really naive. Some Asian groups absolutely hate each other.

It's shocking, that poor man.

But there have always been instances of violence by children. The Jamie Bulgar case, Mary Bell, Sharon Carr, and I'm sure historically there are many more. Is it happening more or are we hearing more news then we used to?

Ban every relative from benefits and council houses for life. Remove them from their state paid for accommodation and stop all financial support for life. They should also pay for the prison time of their offspring as should all members of these families. Put these violent kids away for life. Once the threat of their loser lifestyle is threatened the kids will not commit crimes. Any crime committed by any family member should mean benefits and house stopped forever for the whole lot of these losers.

@ilovesooty

They are likely white;braunstone is a large and notorious council estate here in Leicester;it's very deprived;there's a lot of feral kids and equally feral parents.

I think generally the pattern for poor parenting whereby children exhibit these tendencies is chaotic and abusive households but also conversely, few boundaries and expectations.

The parent is a 'friend' but equally frightening or with little value to the child.

These children may also have comorbid conditions or disorders which make regulation of behaviour difficult on top of that.

I have only read the Guardian article so not sure where the information about the mum is coming from?

I think that parents should always be prosecuted if their children break the law. For all crimes, not just severe things like this. I think it may just encourage some (not all obviously) to start being better parents.

This.

Sociopathy can't be diagnosed in children, doesn't mean it is not there and can't be diagnosed when they grow up, as someone previously said the signs are there. But I'm sure we will soon hear about their difficult childhoods as they get taken out of their secure units for ice cream every week

If you mean the Mum in Ibiza that was a different case. A 12 year old in court for rioting had to have his sentencing delayed because his mother had gone to Ibiza.

I think YABU because you start straight in with 'what is wrong with children today'. It's nonsense. The absolute, vast majority of children are fine. Some, like these five, are not. I suspect there will be a huge picture of family dysfunction that we know nothing about.