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Feral children

678 replies

Overbearingndn · 03/09/2024 19:01

Several children, have been arrested in connection with the death of an 80 year old dog walker.

What is wrong with children today? I remember the Bulger case and it sent shockwaves around the world, now people just accept that children kill.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/five-children-arrested-over-murder-80-year-old-man-in-leicestershire

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ilovesooty · 03/09/2024 19:25

stinkydoveproducts · 03/09/2024 19:13

Don't know. I was just wondering.

I think it's bound to cross people's minds. Sorry if it sounded like a criticism from me.

rainbow1902 · 03/09/2024 19:27

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soupfiend · 03/09/2024 19:28

I suspect the narrative will change to one of the girls being coerced by the boys or were influenced by them or something like that.

Obviously we dont know what actually happened yet.

NigelHarmansNewWife · 03/09/2024 19:28

It sounds as though he had reported issues, probably with these kids, to the police as they've reported themselves. The mother who failed to turn up to her 12 year old's sentencing in Manchester recently shows you what's wrong: lack of parenting.

Beautifulweeds · 03/09/2024 19:29

Beyond horrific, I just can't understand how anyone could be so cruel, evil, brutal. A pack of kids actually killing an innocent older person, just for fun, is incomprehensible. That's our Fathers, our heroes, taking their dog out for a walk! They better get the harshest sentencing and I'm sure a few inmates with beloved parents will be looking forward to showing them how wrong it is. Disgusting.

elm26 · 03/09/2024 19:29

Absolutely horrific. That poor man. RIP. I am fearful for my DD growing up in this world as we know it right now 😔

wickerlady · 03/09/2024 19:30

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I think this often.

ilovesooty · 03/09/2024 19:30

I expect by now they're whining and crying and blaming each other. "Wasn't me. I told them to stop" 😡

vivainsomnia · 03/09/2024 19:30

3 of the kids are girls as well, which I was not expecting
Of course not. On MN, it's always about male violence and women being victims.

The reality is that young and female crime is on the increase. We really need to focus on violence as a whole, not just male violence on female.

itsmylife7 · 03/09/2024 19:30

I only read the headline.

That was enough for me.

Imagine you Dad or Grandad going out to walk the dog and being murdered by a bunch of young children.... that poor Man.
His poor family.

Beautifulweeds · 03/09/2024 19:31

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No, you have a good point. These type of feral scumbags have no respect for parents, teachers, the law, anyone. Turn it back on them and they cry victim, after giving a mouthful of course.

Sunny318 · 03/09/2024 19:31

So upsetting and scary. I work in education with children with challenging behaviour. We were training today for the year ahead and I thought about how awful things have become in our communities. I have been assaulted regularly at work despite lots of experience and pur school providing lots of positive experiences. We are rarely backed up by parents and carers so it makes it so hard to deliver consistent consequences for unacceptable, abusive and violent behaviour. The council don't like exclusions and expect staff to accept being at risk at work..Also seems like the police very limited in what they can do. Feels hopeless sometimes and I am so sad ckr this man's loved ones.

ReadingWorm · 03/09/2024 19:32

Ihateboris · 03/09/2024 19:05

Jesus Christ, that poor man. The kids' parents must be so proud. What is the world coming to?

The mother is probably sunning herself in Ibiza.

Newpillow · 03/09/2024 19:33

I despair with what's happening, there is so little respect these days, you can't politely ask someone on a train to move their bag or feet without getting a mouthful. Not all obviously, but a great many youngsters have no fear of the police or teachers or anyone for that matter .
My friend was called into school because her son aged 10 had a knife in his bag , for 'protection'. My friend was horrified.
I don't know what the answer is but I really fear for the future.

Aduvetday · 03/09/2024 19:34

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This. When questioned deeper about where the line is: murder? rape? They can’t answer.

stinkydoveproducts · 03/09/2024 19:36

Some people aren't born with much of a conscience. It needs to be drummed into them by parents. Some parents don't have a conscience either. Sociopaths raising little sociopaths. It's quite chilling. I'm scared of the kids nowadays. They're full of sass and don't give a shit. Never punished for anything. It's a lethal combination.

sunseaandsoundingoff · 03/09/2024 19:36

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Children have been murdering in the UK since the 1950s, it's really nothing new.

Beezknees · 03/09/2024 19:36

Just awful.

I do think we need to start prosecuting parents as well. You are responsible for your kids. So many of them just don't care.

LBFseBrom · 03/09/2024 19:37

Overbearingndn · 03/09/2024 19:01

Several children, have been arrested in connection with the death of an 80 year old dog walker.

What is wrong with children today? I remember the Bulger case and it sent shockwaves around the world, now people just accept that children kill.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/five-children-arrested-over-murder-80-year-old-man-in-leicestershire

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It certainly is not accepted, it's just known.

Two of the children were fourteen, they were a little gang.

It's awful, simply awful.

EscapingTheseFeelings · 03/09/2024 19:37

It’s absolutely sickening. I read about this earlier.
Nobody is safe in this world.

Ihateboris · 03/09/2024 19:37

ReadingWorm · 03/09/2024 19:32

The mother is probably sunning herself in Ibiza.

Yes, I was going to mention that. Bloody hell!!

shuggles · 03/09/2024 19:38

This isn't surprising at all. This is the consequence of a breakdown in traditional values and morality. What did everyone expect?

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 03/09/2024 19:38

It's not children today. Things like this have always happened. It's still absolutely atrocious and I hope his family and loved ones are coping as best they can.

Karmakamelion · 03/09/2024 19:38

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Why is that relevant?

Ihateboris · 03/09/2024 19:38

Beezknees · 03/09/2024 19:36

Just awful.

I do think we need to start prosecuting parents as well. You are responsible for your kids. So many of them just don't care.

Yes, I completely agree!