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AIBU?

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Not removing sunglasses - unreasonable?

423 replies

coxesorangepippin · 31/08/2024 15:49

Met up with a friend yesterday, who introduced me to her sister.

We sat outside, it was sunny.

The sister did not remove her sunglasses the entire time (2 hours).

It bothered me. I couldn't see her eyes.

Aibu?

OP posts:
FreddieMercurysCat · 01/09/2024 18:14

Yes YABU. I have prescription glasses that darken in the tiniest bit of brighter light. You wouldn’t have seen my eyes either and I’d be buggered if I was taking them off.

Angrywife · 01/09/2024 18:16

My glasses are reactaligjt lenses, they go dark in sunlight so you wouldn't be able to see my eyes and I wouldn't be able to see you at all if I took them off 🤷‍♀️ how would you suggest we resolve that one?

Sirzy · 01/09/2024 18:18

Completely off topic but a few people have mentioned having reactor glasses - I tried them many moons ago when they were quite new and got frustrated at how long they took to change especially when I went inside - are they quicker to change now?

ToWhitToWhoo · 01/09/2024 18:18

TheOccupier · 01/09/2024 17:50

Me. Unless the sunglasses are medically necessary I think it's rude not to briefly remove/lift them when being introduced to someone for the first time. You don't have to sit squinting into the sun for 2 hours but it is good manners and respectful to make eye contact when meeting/greeting someone.

But often the sunglasses are medically necessary,

In any case: true (mutual) eye contact is only possible if both people are able to see each other properly. If one person cannot see properly, then they cannot be an equal partner in eye contact; so to insist that they remove their sunglasses may equate to insisting on dominating the interaction, Which is a bit rude in itself.

NamelessNancy · 01/09/2024 18:20

TheOccupier · 01/09/2024 17:50

Me. Unless the sunglasses are medically necessary I think it's rude not to briefly remove/lift them when being introduced to someone for the first time. You don't have to sit squinting into the sun for 2 hours but it is good manners and respectful to make eye contact when meeting/greeting someone.

How do you know if they are medically necessary? Do you expect people to share their medical history with you on first meeting?

The height of ill manners imo to expect someone to make themselves uncomfortable to suit your preference.

Daffodi1970 · 01/09/2024 18:20

Seriously! I have extremely light sensitive eyes, so what if someone keeps their sunglasses on FFS, how do you actually cope in society! 🤦‍♀️

wooo69 · 01/09/2024 18:26

My prescription glasses have reactions lenses. From my side of the lenses they don’t look any different so I forget that others see me wearing sunglasses. It is only apparent to me when I see myself in photos and see I am wearing sunglasses.

Flipsock · 01/09/2024 18:29

I hardly ever take my sunglasses off. If I go in a shop I just slide them down my nose a bit if I need to look over them.

The absolute lunacy of this post is hilarious.

Saschka · 01/09/2024 18:31

midgetastic · 01/09/2024 09:35

Working class background ( no one had sunglasses then ) and middle aged and middle class now , northern but spent decades in the south

Never see anyone wiggle their glasses up to make momentary eye contact

I’m imagining OP peering over the top of hers, judgily.

littlemisskt · 01/09/2024 18:38

I wear transition lenses so if outside and sunny they would look like sunglasses the whole time. Not really a lot I could do about it unless I took them off and then couldn’t see a thing…

BooBooDoodle · 01/09/2024 18:42

I wear contacts and without my sunglasses my eyes smart with sensitivity and I get easily dazzled with the light reflecting off my lenses so when outside in sunny or bright white cloudy conditions, I wear my sunglasses. I was about to ask who do you think you are but you’re clearly a dickhead.

shufflestep · 01/09/2024 18:42

EI12 · 31/08/2024 17:56

Some people are rude. Even if she has eye-related problems, the norm is to lift your sunglasses, even without removing them, to smile and say hello during your introduction and then pop them back on.

But how does that work if you can then only see a blur where the person's face is, you still can't make eye contact?

Coffeeandcocktails · 01/09/2024 18:43

I probably wouldn’t have noticed or given it a second thought if I was in your situation. However as someone who wears sunglasses even when the sun isn’t in my face, I’d have definitely put them on my head and made eye contact when being introduced to start with.

SocialiteandCoffee · 01/09/2024 18:49

A lot of people on here are completely wrong. Sunglasses present a barrier between people and should be removed even if only briefly so that the person you are talking to can see your eyes for a moment. Then put them back on. I've been around the world and met many people from many cultures and performed sensitive and difficult work where you need to establish trust very quickly. The removal of sunglasses is a universal truth even if only for a moment.

ClockwiseHoneysuckle · 01/09/2024 18:52

SocialiteandCoffee · 01/09/2024 18:49

A lot of people on here are completely wrong. Sunglasses present a barrier between people and should be removed even if only briefly so that the person you are talking to can see your eyes for a moment. Then put them back on. I've been around the world and met many people from many cultures and performed sensitive and difficult work where you need to establish trust very quickly. The removal of sunglasses is a universal truth even if only for a moment.

Expecting people to take off prescription glasses is just weird.

mitogoshi · 01/09/2024 18:52

In sunny weather? Yabu

Mintgum · 01/09/2024 18:52

I suffer with crippling migraines my glasses are listed.
1 pair of colour changers.
1 pair of black glasses.
If its a dull day i wear my rose tints or green or blue lens.
I dont own a clear pair of glasses.
All above glasses are all prescription without them i cant see.
In sunny days i wear my black ones all day even indoors.

Runnerinthenight · 01/09/2024 18:53

SocialiteandCoffee · 01/09/2024 18:49

A lot of people on here are completely wrong. Sunglasses present a barrier between people and should be removed even if only briefly so that the person you are talking to can see your eyes for a moment. Then put them back on. I've been around the world and met many people from many cultures and performed sensitive and difficult work where you need to establish trust very quickly. The removal of sunglasses is a universal truth even if only for a moment.

Nonsense.

Sirzy · 01/09/2024 18:56

SocialiteandCoffee · 01/09/2024 18:49

A lot of people on here are completely wrong. Sunglasses present a barrier between people and should be removed even if only briefly so that the person you are talking to can see your eyes for a moment. Then put them back on. I've been around the world and met many people from many cultures and performed sensitive and difficult work where you need to establish trust very quickly. The removal of sunglasses is a universal truth even if only for a moment.

How exactly does someone seeing my eyes both turn in towards my nose help create trust?

AlwaysKindaKnewYoudBeTheDeathOfMe · 01/09/2024 19:01

But why does your version of manners matter more than mine? Does your preference for me not to wear shades trump my desire to wear them?

Obviously not.

Hope that helps.

tigger1001 · 01/09/2024 19:03

SocialiteandCoffee · 01/09/2024 18:49

A lot of people on here are completely wrong. Sunglasses present a barrier between people and should be removed even if only briefly so that the person you are talking to can see your eyes for a moment. Then put them back on. I've been around the world and met many people from many cultures and performed sensitive and difficult work where you need to establish trust very quickly. The removal of sunglasses is a universal truth even if only for a moment.

Not being able to see is a bigger barrier.

AlwaysKindaKnewYoudBeTheDeathOfMe · 01/09/2024 19:03

SocialiteandCoffee · 01/09/2024 18:49

A lot of people on here are completely wrong. Sunglasses present a barrier between people and should be removed even if only briefly so that the person you are talking to can see your eyes for a moment. Then put them back on. I've been around the world and met many people from many cultures and performed sensitive and difficult work where you need to establish trust very quickly. The removal of sunglasses is a universal truth even if only for a moment.

There is no should in this situation.

tinytemper66 · 01/09/2024 19:10

If Sunny I won't take sunglasses off for love nor money. You are being unreasonable.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/09/2024 19:10

Even if it was true that you need to look someone in the eye to establish trust (which obviously you don't - blind people manage, I'm fine with colleagues I've never met etc) ... the OP was complaining about the sister of a friend. A mere acquaintance.

tinytemper66 · 01/09/2024 19:12

SocialiteandCoffee · 01/09/2024 18:49

A lot of people on here are completely wrong. Sunglasses present a barrier between people and should be removed even if only briefly so that the person you are talking to can see your eyes for a moment. Then put them back on. I've been around the world and met many people from many cultures and performed sensitive and difficult work where you need to establish trust very quickly. The removal of sunglasses is a universal truth even if only for a moment.

Oh sod off.