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Not removing sunglasses - unreasonable?

423 replies

coxesorangepippin · 31/08/2024 15:49

Met up with a friend yesterday, who introduced me to her sister.

We sat outside, it was sunny.

The sister did not remove her sunglasses the entire time (2 hours).

It bothered me. I couldn't see her eyes.

Aibu?

OP posts:
tigger1001 · 01/09/2024 10:50

"No, not advanced grade manners, just an awareness that it might make someone else feel comfortable engaging with you. You know, considering others. It only takes a moment to quickly lift them up.

www.whowhatwear.com/sunglasses-etiquette

Many more examples like this online. Unless you have a medical reason to keep sunglasses on all the time - obviously - I find it weird and pretentious if folks leave them on when speaking with someone.

But I must be a little nuts 😂"

Why is your comfort more important than the other persons?

I literally wouldn't be able to make out your facial features without my glasses on. And it leaves me feeling very vulnerable. That's more important to me than your comfort.

Carn · 01/09/2024 10:52

If I was meeting someone for the first time, I’d push my sunnies onto my head when greeting them, then pull them back down again. I think that’s the polite thing to do.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/09/2024 10:57

Tbh if I'm outside in the sun I'm quite likely to forget I've even got sunglasses on. DH sometimes doesn't know whether he's wearing his sunglasses or standard prescription ones.
This eye contact thing... I've worked remotely for years, we don't use video in meetings - I never have eye contact with my colleagues and we communicate just fine.

HideTheCroissants · 01/09/2024 11:09

Carn · 01/09/2024 10:52

If I was meeting someone for the first time, I’d push my sunnies onto my head when greeting them, then pull them back down again. I think that’s the polite thing to do.

TBH I wouldn’t even necessarily register that my reactolite PRESCRIPTION glasses had turned dark and now looked like sunglasses.. I also wouldn’t feel it appropriate to say “do you mind if I don’t remove my glasses as I wouldn’t be able to see you and if it’s sunny might vomit on your feet” any more than I would expect someone sitting in a wheelchair or with a stick beside them to explain that they can’t stand to greet someone.

lisamarief70 · 01/09/2024 11:18

I have cataracts and need to wear sunglasses much of the time even on overcast days. There are so many eye conditions which are not obvious so yes you are BU and judgy

AlwaysKindaKnewYoudBeTheDeathOfMe · 01/09/2024 11:18

Carn · 01/09/2024 10:52

If I was meeting someone for the first time, I’d push my sunnies onto my head when greeting them, then pull them back down again. I think that’s the polite thing to do.

But why??

Disturbia81 · 01/09/2024 11:48

@AlwaysKindaKnewYoudBeTheDeathOfMe I'm guessing maybe as some don't like eye contact then some really need it? I didn't realise I'd been making people uncomfortable!
Everyone can't cater to everyones needs, it's impossible

AlwaysKindaKnewYoudBeTheDeathOfMe · 01/09/2024 11:58

But nobody should be trying to cater to - not the needs of - but simply the preferences of others. I totally don't get it.

It's sunny = sunglasses in my world, and I've never given it a seconds thought what anyone might think of that.

Disturbia81 · 01/09/2024 12:22

AlwaysKindaKnewYoudBeTheDeathOfMe · 01/09/2024 11:58

But nobody should be trying to cater to - not the needs of - but simply the preferences of others. I totally don't get it.

It's sunny = sunglasses in my world, and I've never given it a seconds thought what anyone might think of that.

Me neither
I'll keep not removing mine 😆

AlwaysKindaKnewYoudBeTheDeathOfMe · 01/09/2024 12:24

Same. It's mental eh!

Thinkbiglittleone · 01/09/2024 12:48

You have embarrassed yourself enough... everyone can see that not only did you make an offensive statement which you where called out on by multiple people but you then went on to attack the very disabled people who called you out on saying something ablest

Again not true, I am not continuing to attacking disabled people, I am calling you out for lying, for making false statement about what I wrote.
I have apologised twice if I used someone else's comment without thinking and should have used better words, and explained myself properly.
So i am not "continuing" to do anything other than call you out for lying.

So I am not continuing to argue "I am right", I have apologised if anyone was offended as it was not what I meant at all, I am not that person. I am continuing to call you out, no us, not everyone , you, for your lies about what I said, it was vile and I stand by that.

We have heard it all before, these backhand ways to call us stupid, idiots, imbeciles, retarded, dunces etc... you are not the first but don't dare insults us that you didn't mean EXACTLY what you said

I will, tell you it's not what I meant, as it wasn't. As I have already explained. But you, simply and plainly lied about something I said and it was a vile statement to make, so my continued arguing with you is not about the statement I copied, I apologise to anyone who was offended by that and my responses, were to try explain what I meant, not me continuing to defending the statement, I have apologised for that, it I is about the lie you told, it was vile, as I didn't say that at all. So you need to take your lies elsewhere.

It's absolutely not. I never said you can't communicate without eye contact - another lie, I said a lot of communication is done using your eyes. Very, very different, but why let the truth get in the way hey.

Everyone sees who you, but clearly you are someone who can't admit what you are and wont ever change so just stop

Again, if you read the truth, I apologised for the copied words I used.
But I won't let you lie about me, I'm not sure why you felt the need to write such a horrible thing and refuse to address this vile incorrect statement.

housethatbuiltme · 01/09/2024 13:15

Thinkbiglittleone · 01/09/2024 12:48

You have embarrassed yourself enough... everyone can see that not only did you make an offensive statement which you where called out on by multiple people but you then went on to attack the very disabled people who called you out on saying something ablest

Again not true, I am not continuing to attacking disabled people, I am calling you out for lying, for making false statement about what I wrote.
I have apologised twice if I used someone else's comment without thinking and should have used better words, and explained myself properly.
So i am not "continuing" to do anything other than call you out for lying.

So I am not continuing to argue "I am right", I have apologised if anyone was offended as it was not what I meant at all, I am not that person. I am continuing to call you out, no us, not everyone , you, for your lies about what I said, it was vile and I stand by that.

We have heard it all before, these backhand ways to call us stupid, idiots, imbeciles, retarded, dunces etc... you are not the first but don't dare insults us that you didn't mean EXACTLY what you said

I will, tell you it's not what I meant, as it wasn't. As I have already explained. But you, simply and plainly lied about something I said and it was a vile statement to make, so my continued arguing with you is not about the statement I copied, I apologise to anyone who was offended by that and my responses, were to try explain what I meant, not me continuing to defending the statement, I have apologised for that, it I is about the lie you told, it was vile, as I didn't say that at all. So you need to take your lies elsewhere.

It's absolutely not. I never said you can't communicate without eye contact - another lie, I said a lot of communication is done using your eyes. Very, very different, but why let the truth get in the way hey.

Everyone sees who you, but clearly you are someone who can't admit what you are and wont ever change so just stop

Again, if you read the truth, I apologised for the copied words I used.
But I won't let you lie about me, I'm not sure why you felt the need to write such a horrible thing and refuse to address this vile incorrect statement.

other people where offended and have called you out too, you are ignoring them and only going after me but yes it is 'us'.

Just because you ignored the other commenters doesn't mean they don't exist.

Topseyt123 · 01/09/2024 13:18

Carn · 01/09/2024 10:52

If I was meeting someone for the first time, I’d push my sunnies onto my head when greeting them, then pull them back down again. I think that’s the polite thing to do.

Why?

I've worn glasses since I was three years old (I'm 58 now), many of which (as an adult) have been transitions lenses so they darken and are sunglasses when I am outside. I've never taken them off to greet people and have no intention of starting now. Nobody has any need to gaze deeply into my eyes for the window onto my soul, which is a ludicrous notion anyway.

I don't consider keeping my glasses on, even when darkened, to allow myself to see properly is rude at all. If someone took theirs off to greet me I wouldn't even notice. I certainly wouldn't think it was my opportunity to gaze into their soul as some on here seem to be suggesting!

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/09/2024 13:22

Even if my glasses weren't tinted I couldn't make eye contact with you because of my severe squint 🤣

DreamW3aver · 01/09/2024 13:53

Riapia · 01/09/2024 07:00

I thought that sunglasses were supposed to be worn on the top of the head, even when it’s sunny.
😉😁😁.

Only when making a tiktok 😂

Thinkbiglittleone · 01/09/2024 14:03

other people where offended and have called you out too, you are ignoring them and only going after me but yes it is 'us'

Which exactly just shows you are not reading or taking in anything I am saying, if you don't understand why I am aiming my comment at you and you alone. It is in response to your first to post me, where you lied and implied I said something disgusting - that "I wouldn't talk to a blind person or a person with false eyes" you just simply made that up, I never said or implied that.

Other people told me it was offensive and why, I tried to explain what I meant, then I apologised as it was shown that i copied the wording of something and should have worded it better instead of using their phrase, so I apologised to anyone I offended.

And that is why I am responding to you and you alone as it's the disgusting statement you implied about me, not the others who highlighted my mistake, which I apologised for.

Just because you ignored the other commenters doesn't mean they don't exist

I don't have a problem with the others highlighting my error, as they did it based on what I actually copied down, they didn't imply I wouldn't talk to a blind person, that was the vile leap and a complete untruth.

Mellowbear · 01/09/2024 17:37

You actually know you are being unreasonable!!!!!!!

TheOccupier · 01/09/2024 17:50

StolenChanel · 31/08/2024 15:57

Who are the 6% who think this is a totally normal thing to be upset about? Because it’s not…

Me. Unless the sunglasses are medically necessary I think it's rude not to briefly remove/lift them when being introduced to someone for the first time. You don't have to sit squinting into the sun for 2 hours but it is good manners and respectful to make eye contact when meeting/greeting someone.

tommyhoundmum · 01/09/2024 17:57

I would feel a bit uncomfortable. I think it's quite important to see someone's eyes when you first meet them.

LaughingCat · 01/09/2024 17:59

I’m confused that anyone made a thread upset about someone wearing sunglasses on a sunny afternoon. Shocker. Tell me she committed the cardinal sin of eating a mince pie in August too.

JLou08 · 01/09/2024 18:00

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 31/08/2024 16:01

I was always taught that wearing sunglasses in company was rude.

Clearly your friend wasn't brought up properly.

Or maybe you weren't brought up properly to expect someone to be very uncomfortable and potentially damaging their eyes with no valid reason to do so.

sgtmajormum · 01/09/2024 18:03

I think yabu. Could they have been prescription sunglasses? I wear prescription sunglasses. It wouldn't even occur to me to take them off when I meet people as I'm like Mrs Magoo without them

TheOccupier · 01/09/2024 18:06

AlwaysKindaKnewYoudBeTheDeathOfMe · 01/09/2024 09:40

Absolutely fascinated by this 'manners' thing.

Says who? Why? When did this become a thing? Which absolute bore has deemed it must be so? Do you understand the difference between a rule and just...your preference?

I say this with all politeness, but if you think my choices are any of your business, you can absolutely get fucked.

The point of manners is to show consideration and respect to others (as opposed to etiquette, which is more about things like using a particular type of knife for fish). Hope this helps.

Sirzy · 01/09/2024 18:09

TheOccupier · 01/09/2024 18:06

The point of manners is to show consideration and respect to others (as opposed to etiquette, which is more about things like using a particular type of knife for fish). Hope this helps.

Then surely manners isn’t to expect someone to take off glasses when there are many reasons that would make them struggle?

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 01/09/2024 18:11

You are weird. It's fine for her to keep her sunglasses on. Or is this about that celebrity?