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Shrieking child next door ALL DAY LONG! WWYD

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Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 06:54

New neighbours moved in next door a few weeks ago. They have a young boy I’d estimate age 2 to 3. He shrieks virtually all day and evening, not in a crying upset way, more in play and excitement but it’s ALL.THE.TIME!
Theyre out in the garden and he’s shrieking (can’t think of another word for it) or kinda singing to himself in a really high pitched loud tone, and when they’re inside he’s doing the same. We live in small terrace houses and can hear loudish noise through the walls. I work from home 3 days a week and it’s driving me to distraction. We can’t sit out in the garden as it’s constant. I appreciate he may have some additional needs but surely the parents would be aware of the noise and try to reduce this? He is definitely verbal as I hear him chatting to his mum. Apparently the mum doesn’t speak English and the dad leaves for work early and comes back quite late so there’s been no interaction between us since they moved in. WWYD? The noise is driving me insane but I really don’t want to be insensitive

OP posts:
tinklingchimes · 05/09/2024 09:38

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 09:36

The world has changed. Homes ARE workplaces now and need to be respected as such.

I don't have shrieking kids but I'm not changing normal courteous home behaviour to cater for working at home. It's my home, not my workplace. If it's a problem, the worker can make adjustments.

Heronwatcher · 05/09/2024 12:39

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 09:36

The world has changed. Homes ARE workplaces now and need to be respected as such.

No it hasn’t.
No they don’t.
Short of noise which approches legal nuisance type levels (child noise very unlikely to do this, but clearly the OP is the one to assess in this case) there is absolutely nothing stopping people using homes as homes with associated noise for leisure, cleaning, building work, DIY, watching TV, listening to music, mowing the lawn, hoovering, playing, playing the French horn, whatever.
If people find it difficult to work from home with reasonable levels of noise from neighbours then the onus is on them to find somewhere else to do it- either an office, or a communal work base, library, community space etc. Again the OP would no doubt say that the child next door’s noise is unreasonable but none of us have heard it.
(And very aware that the OP is not just asking about work but I wanted to answer this point specifically).

ClaudiaWankleman · 05/09/2024 13:54

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 09:36

The world has changed. Homes ARE workplaces now and need to be respected as such.

Homes are workplaces and that's why the worker needs to treat them as such. Set them up properly, create an appropriate space and take responsibility for managing their own capacity to work from home. It's not on their neighbours to facilitate an appropriate working environment.

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 13:57

So if working from home needn't be respected, why would I tone down noise so that my neighbours' infant could sleep, or their teen revise, or any other reason?

It's everyone for themselves now, eh?

After all, the student could go to the library and the parents could take the infant out.

ClaudiaWankleman · 05/09/2024 13:59

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 13:57

So if working from home needn't be respected, why would I tone down noise so that my neighbours' infant could sleep, or their teen revise, or any other reason?

It's everyone for themselves now, eh?

After all, the student could go to the library and the parents could take the infant out.

Well I doubt you do? It's certainly not normal for neighbours to know that much about their neighbours routines that they actually would keep quiet to facilitate revision or a baby to go down. Outside of the council-set quiet hours, it's normally a free-for-all.

caringcarer · 05/09/2024 14:13

I think I'd tell the parents you find it early fitting the way their kid shrieks all the time. Can they please keep him quiet until 9am in the morning and after 10pm at night. If they refuse you could report to the council as a noise hazard

FiveFindOutersAndDog · 05/09/2024 14:14

@buffyajp
The OP doesn't have an office to go, so is either working from home or visiting clients.
Parents should be parenting their child and not allowing screaming and shrieking. We didn't allow that sort of noise when our DC were small.
If the chill is ND they should still be making some sort of effort to control noise.
Maybe they should move somewhere remote because no doubt they will be annoying the neighbours on their other side.

caringcarer · 05/09/2024 14:15

ItsAShame2 · 30/08/2024 07:55

I would record it and go over to play it to them and say is there any chance we can reach a compromise on the days you work from home

This. I'm surprised the kid doesn't go to nursery. You could ask if he might be going soon.

JollyPinkFox · 05/09/2024 18:37

caringcarer · 05/09/2024 14:13

I think I'd tell the parents you find it early fitting the way their kid shrieks all the time. Can they please keep him quiet until 9am in the morning and after 10pm at night. If they refuse you could report to the council as a noise hazard

Do not do this, the council don’t do anything about it because it’s child noise and I believe you have to then declare the complaint when you want to sell the property. I went through this a few years ago, the parents were relentlessly unreasonable bastards and the only way to get them to shut the kids up was to also make a load of noise, late at night, very early on the weekend

tinklingchimes · 05/09/2024 22:38

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 13:57

So if working from home needn't be respected, why would I tone down noise so that my neighbours' infant could sleep, or their teen revise, or any other reason?

It's everyone for themselves now, eh?

After all, the student could go to the library and the parents could take the infant out.

You don't have to tone down normal levels of noise related to normal activities for either of those things.

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 22:52

Kids shrieking all day long is not a normal level of noise by civilized standards.

tinklingchimes · 05/09/2024 22:54

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 22:52

Kids shrieking all day long is not a normal level of noise by civilized standards.

No but we all have a different threshold for what is tolerable when it comes to the noise of kids not our own. One person's unreasonable may actually be quite reasonable (both ways).

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 22:57

tinklingchimes · 05/09/2024 22:54

No but we all have a different threshold for what is tolerable when it comes to the noise of kids not our own. One person's unreasonable may actually be quite reasonable (both ways).

Quiet enjoyment of one's home is the default setting.

The noise MAKER does not get to determine what is reasonable; the person on the receiving end does.

People whose kids are noisy need to develop strategies to allow their neighbours peace in the home. If that means taking the kids on six walks per day or driving them around in the car at night so they can scream without disturbing others, so be it.

tinklingchimes · 05/09/2024 23:08

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 22:57

Quiet enjoyment of one's home is the default setting.

The noise MAKER does not get to determine what is reasonable; the person on the receiving end does.

People whose kids are noisy need to develop strategies to allow their neighbours peace in the home. If that means taking the kids on six walks per day or driving them around in the car at night so they can scream without disturbing others, so be it.

Please tell my neighbours that. lol.

Some people don't want to hear a peep though, and that's not necessarily realistic or fair.

The good side of having neighbour's that make some noise is you can make your own without worrying if you're bothering them. It's been a really windy week here and normally I'd tie up my wind chimes. However, my neighbours are inconsiderate so they've been incessant for days. Too bad.

ClaudiaWankleman · 06/09/2024 10:00

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/09/2024 22:57

Quiet enjoyment of one's home is the default setting.

The noise MAKER does not get to determine what is reasonable; the person on the receiving end does.

People whose kids are noisy need to develop strategies to allow their neighbours peace in the home. If that means taking the kids on six walks per day or driving them around in the car at night so they can scream without disturbing others, so be it.

Almost none of that is anywhere close to the truth/ reality.

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