to honestley wonder, why have children if you WANT to work fulltime and are not prepared to make ANY sacrifices?

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i don't mean parents that HAVE to work to provide.

i mean the ones that choose to for no other reason, other than they enjoy their job so much.
if you enjoy your job so much, thats great.
but what i really do not understand is why have children?
no one makes any of these parents have children, you can go though life without having children.

this is 100% genuine question, i just do not get it.

I have a child and work full time. I am a sahm, is that not classed as full time work then? I hate the fact that a sahm isn't recognised as having a 'proper job'

I will jog on now...

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When my cousin had her ds she took 6 months maternity leave but put him in full time creche from 10 weeks, and spent the rest of her leave having a fab time shopping, going to the gym etc. When she returned to work he stayed in creche, but she then got an au pair/nanny to work at the weekends for her. She then had another child and did exactly the same again. I have to say, I do find myself wondering why on earth she ever had those kids. I know she is by no means representative of all working mums and I wonder if this is the kind of mum the op was referring to. BTW am a working mother myself if anyone is asking....

your inverting what i'm saying:

motherhood in modern society is looked down on and isn't helped by women turning on each other.

motherhood should be cherished and seen as a vaild occupation. children should be seen as valuable assets to society rather than a drain on resources.

a woman a work has just annouced her pregnancy and most people in the offered their sympathy rather than congratulations...

that's got to be weird right?

just to prove a point these nurseries take babies from 6 weeks old from 730am to 6pm if that is what the parent wishes

I think for very young children it is better to be with one of the parents all day.
I understand that is not necessary as they get older, but their formative years are very important

alittleone

they do

see my link

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Has the OP cottoned on yet or is she still puzzled?

Nurseries do take babies from 6 weeks old

I was in nursery from 6 weeks old alittleone2 as my Mum was a single parent and had to work. I have seen nurseries in my locality that take infants from 6 weeks old.

If women (or parents if you want to use that argument) didn't work then you wouldn't have the luxury of going to the supermarket, have your post delivered, read a paper, be treated by your GP, watch the TV, fill up the car, have your bins collected, access your bank account. Oh I could go on forever. I think society would fall apart if people only worked because they had to. Presumably the OP boycots all goods and services provided by working parents. They're sure as hell making her life a misery.

Does it really upset you so much to see people happy? Really you need a long hard look in the mirror. Is your life happy?

I personally wouldn't want to have to pick up my Mac and throw it out of the fucking window in disgust at this thread. It cost a lot, this Mac. A lot of my husband's money, at least [cackle]

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I hated when mine were babies. Hated the newborn stage and the stage after. I would gladly have worked F/T then and let someone else have them for the 1st year.
Now they're older and can speak and move on their own, I love much more.

I fully expected to return to work when DD1 was 6 months old, I extended this to 12 months then realised I just couldn't leave her with anyone else, I just didn't want to. DP and I had to make some radical decisions to allow me to stay at home but for me being with my DDs far outweighs any job.

I WANT to stay at home, some mothers WANT to work, some WANT to stay at home but can't, some work P/T, as long as YOU are happy with your decision then sod everyone else. We are all different people what suits one does not suit another. I would never say to a WOHM she is a bad mother, it's her choice and none of my business, I respect her decision.

What we need to do is stop berating other peoples choices and make sure every parent has the choice of good quality affordable childcare (if they chose ot work) and that SAHMs are respected for the job they do.

theres no need to huff

i found it hard to believe too

Monkey, if I remember rightly the only other factor that made it okay or better was when the family were really poor and by the mother working it pulled them up the social ladder. So a mum on benefits staying at home was worse than the mum who worked hard to pull her family out of poverty.
I do see 'yummy mummies' dropping their babies off, at a local nursery, in their brand new Mercedes Estate. It just makes me think give up your car and stay home a couple of days a week? But then who am I to judge? When I worked it was a very male dominated cut throat place, cashing money, since having children I am not right for that career and I don't miss it. I couldn't think of anything worse than my ds thinking she is only this earth to live off a man's money and rear children. I hope she appreciates that I do other things to have an identity just not 9-5!

MrsMattie, did you see me telling you off earlier for ''dissing my thread!

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don't! don't throw that Mac Mrs Mattie, Macs are loooovely

I didn't, did I?@cushion? I do diss a lot of people a lot of the time on MN, I know . I apologise.

phew

I stillbelieve there are very few children that age in nursery for that long 5 days a week. IMO, it's a niche market.

You just said MN had been dull this afternoon after which I pointed out that I'd started a very interesting thread about all shoes being pink!