to honestley wonder, why have children if you WANT to work fulltime and are not prepared to make ANY sacrifices?

[milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk]

i don't mean parents that HAVE to work to provide.

i mean the ones that choose to for no other reason, other than they enjoy their job so much.
if you enjoy your job so much, thats great.
but what i really do not understand is why have children?
no one makes any of these parents have children, you can go though life without having children.

this is 100% genuine question, i just do not get it.

www gets last word

No, carry on posting, but don't all get so wound up, coz it doesn't matter. Being a good parent is a matter of perspective.

is it over now?

has it reached 1000 for bye byeski

nkf - basically the headmaster of the local comp, to which my bro' was going to go, rang up about a month before term started and said that the school couldn't cope with him (he was extremely bright and a bit disruptive), so it was either send him to a school that had explicitly (albeit informally) expressed a reluctance to take him, or cram him into Colet Court.

My parents were happy for me to try out for St Pauls Girls, but by that point DB had had two hellish years at St Pauls and came home crying every night, so I opted for the comp.

Agree totally www and izzywhizzy
I think tbh most of us just factor Xenia out of these arguments because her views are not representative of the view of most WOHPs on this site - however much it
might suit some people to assume this^.
I think parenting in the 21st century is full of la la la moments onebatmother. For some people it is triggered by how they feed their baby, for others, by where and with whom they live, for others it is education.
We are all forced to feel guilty about whatever our obligatory or chosen parenting circumstances, and nothing will make any of us start singing la la la than insulting and condescending generalisations. "Is this right?" Well, for me it was more, "Is this avoidable?" - and the answer was no, so I stopped using valuable time and energy wringing my hands and got on with being the best parent I could to two lovely children in reliable, good quality daycare.

I suppose I can see why a mother might work full time, even if she doesn't have to for financial reasons, but what I can't understand it when they don't take time off if their young child is ill. A sick child needs their mother.

At the risk of being labelled judgmental I must admit that I stopped being friends with
another mother who put her job before her dd. Well it wasn't just that: she wanted sympathy because the doctor wouldn't prescribe antibiotics when her pre-school dd had a water infection, but didn't take any time off to be with her suffering dd, who had to go to nursery as usual. I just felt I could not relate to this woman at all. She was extremely affluent; they were a 4 car family with only 2 drivers.