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To ask you, if you despise boarding school, what exactly you think goes on there?

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RainyDaysAndMondaysNeverGetMeDown · 25/08/2024 21:57

As the title says, if you are one of the many anti-boarding school parents on here, what exactly do you think happens to children at boarding school?

And yes, I am a parent of boarders, having sworn I'd never be.
But having seen how my DCs have thrived (in a school 20 minutes away!) I'm curious to see how much of the perception is reality.

OP posts:
footiemum3 · 26/08/2024 01:39

We each make a choice as to what is best for our individual family. For Jody a boarding school is not right. My boys are very social and am sure the twins would love the idea of a boarding school but I believe coming home each evening is beat for them. There is no right or wrong you made your choice which you were happier with.

InevitableNameChanger · 26/08/2024 01:39

mumedu · 26/08/2024 00:56

Family dinner times, movie nights, just checking in and asking how their day was... These things matter.

Exactly. We always chat when my son gets in from school (at least one parent is always WFH), then again at family dinner /taking them to clubs and then I always spend time with each child individually. We might play a game, watch some TV, walk the dog, swim or or just chat. Then I always tuck them in, even the teens.

So yes they do spend time with friends /at clubs /in their room, but we always spend a decent amount of time together each day too

CinnamonJellyBeans · 26/08/2024 01:40

I was pretty ambivalent about boarding school before I read this thread. So many sad stories.

At least when I was bullied at school, I could go home afterwards.

HelenaWaiting · 26/08/2024 01:51

RainyDaysAndMondaysNeverGetMeDown · 25/08/2024 23:12

No, I am blatantly not asking why people didn't/don't make the same choice.
I am trying to understand why so many people seem to feel it's appropriate to comment on my choice.

Because you've invited them to comment by starting a thread. It is clear from your responses that you are not interested in other's opinions and you have slapped down everyone who presents an alternative view of boarding schools. Which makes me wonder why you did start this thread.

Peanutbuttercrumble · 26/08/2024 01:57

I don't think it would ever be the right choice for my specific child. Home is his sanctuary.

I do know someone though who was sent to boarding school because home was absolutely not a sanctuary with domestic violence happening so the mum got them away.

Remaker · 26/08/2024 02:01

I have one friend who boarded. Her parenting style is noticeably different from everyone else I know. She either over-polices them with too many rules or bows to their opinions inappropriately. She parentifies her eldest, allowing them to overrule her on decisions about the younger children. And she is emotionally detached and distant.

I’d caution you to ensure they know it’s ok not to be thriving at boarding school. It’s so easy to get caught up in raving about how marvellous a school choice has been, meanwhile the child is miserable but doesn’t want to admit it because they don’t want to lose your praise and approval.

Franjipanl8r · 26/08/2024 02:05

If it didn’t damage some kids then there wouldn’t be a condition called “boarding school syndrome”.

Some kids will be fine, others need daily decompression in a safe familiar home environment where they can truely relax without being polite.

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 02:07

I have just remembered a woman I used to know who went to boarding school and it probably was the right choice for her. We were all young adults at the time and she used to tell these "funny" stories of her childhood that were all examples of blatant neglect. Some stories were jaw dropping. So being at boarding school where she was fed regularly and cared for probably was a much better option than being at home. For her it was a private childrens home.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 26/08/2024 02:21

Saying that, I had a lad who came to me as his tutor every break for a year throughout year 9, sobbing, lonely etc..., ran into him last year, now all grown up and in the Para's, he reckons that boarding kicked the "wet little kid" out of him (his words) and made him a man.

Ugh, that's a lot of toxic masculinity. I'd put him in the 'boarding fucked them up' bucket.

Onthescrapheap81 · 26/08/2024 02:23

In sociology there is primary socialisation (within the family), and secondary socialisation (in educational settings). Both are pretty crucial to development, but at boarding school you’re missing out on a whole chunk of the family stuff.

I went to schools which offered boarding, although I was mostly a day pupil, I boarded a bit here and there and for most of year 11. There wasn’t a lot of nurturing going on, there was a distinct feeling of having already left home and having to fend for yourself (emotionally), but at the same time having a total lack of autonomy in terms of having to follow a strict regime. And sleeping in a dorm, or even a bunk bed, with a person/people you really don’t like but are literally stuck with 24/7 is no fun.

There was some horrific sexual abuse, in the boys boarding houses particularly, and a fair few pregnancies amongst the girls. Yes your child may be lucky and get through it being one of the ones who doesn’t suffer, but equally they might not. I’m sure parents want to be at home believing their kids are having the experiences they read about in the prospectus, but in many cases they’re not, those kids are just numbers to the people who ‘care’ for them. Unless their home life is really shit, they are almost certainly going to be safer, happier and more loved at home.

miniaturepixieonacid · 26/08/2024 02:27

Wow, you really set yourself up for a beating with this question, didn't you!!

One thing I always notice about these threads is how many people (naturally) focus on their own, their partner's, their sibling's or their parents' experiences. Those experiences are very valid, of course, but they don't take into account the huge changes in modern boarding, even within the last 15-20 years.

I work in a school with boarders and have done since 2007.
In 2007:

  • Boarders were in the minority but there was a sizeable number of full and weekly boarders right across ages 7 - 13. A good mix of international students, military/foreign office families, families where boarding was the 'done thing' and a few from dysfunctional families
  • The boarding houseparents were caring but very strict. Children had to read silently on their beds for half an hour before lights out. There was absolutely no talking after quiet time had begun. There were designated phone times that they couldn't call outside. They had screen time for half an hour twice a week. All free time was organised.
  • 98% of the children went on to be full or weekly boarders at their Senior Schools so loads boarded in their last year or term to 'get used to it'. A lot of those did not want to.
  • The children moved on to a wide range of Senior Schools all over the country. Boarding was a necessity if they wanted to attend that school. They weren't really choosing boarding, they were being coached to want that particular school - either because of family links or a particular characteristic/offerring of the school.
In 2024:
  • Boarders are a tiny minority and almost all of them are age 10+. Boarding at age 7 is vanishingly rare at almost all schools now. All of our boarders are either international, military or there to avoid extremely difficult backgrounds/home lives (think county lines, domestic abuse, young carers, ACEs etc).
  • The boarding houseparents are still caring but also flexible, laid back and fun. They have had extensive training to help them deal with the huge issues lots of the boarders arrive with. There is a higher staff:pupil ratio than there used to be. The evening schedules are much more flexible (and louder!) The boarders can ask for their phones to call home whenever they like (discouraged during the school day itself) and they get a little more screen time (not a huge amount more, tbh). They don't have to take part in structured free time - activities are always available but they can also just chill out, read, watch tv, play games etc if they prefer.
  • More children go on to be day pupils at their Senior Schools. About 65-70% still become boarders at 13 but they don't tend to start before then in preparation. Our day children often flexi board 1 night a week but they stay day children until they leave.
  • The vast majority go on to one of three Senior Schools within 20 - 60 minutes of their homes. They have the choice of being boarders or day pupils so the ones who board from 13+ have usually chosen it rather than been 'sent' there. They can switch to being a day pupil if they decide they don't like it. Most seem to like it.

The change in the 17 years I've been there is very noticeable. But even back in 2007 it wasn't like people are describing their experiences in the 1980s and 1990s. There is always cereal, toast, fruit, biscuits, hot chocolate etc before bed. There are always bedtime stories and cuddles for little ones. There are always adults to call on if they are upset, sick or just awake in the night. Nobody has to cry themselves to sleep alone. Bullying happens less and is hard not to notice when it is happening. Children don't tend to keep quiet about it any more (the toxic anti 'snitching' culture is well and truly dead) and, when you're around children all the time, it's hard to miss it anyway. Children who don't settle after a decent try and who obviously hate it do not tend to stay as boarders.

I don't think boarding before 13 is a positive thing for any child from a loving, well adjusted family.

I don't think I would personally choose boarding after 13 unless the child could make a really strong case for why it was better for them.

But to suggest modern boarding parents have made some terrible decision that is going to affect their relationship with their children and/or their children's mental health forever is unfair and untrue. Modern Senior Schools produce 1000s of well rounded, balanced, articulate, confident, compassionate, delightful young people. As do day schools of course. But the point is that these young people have enjoyed their education, love their families and are perfectly well set up for functional adulthood.

Geppili · 26/08/2024 03:08

So sad about how you are pleased not to do sports laundry. Laundry and emptying out my beautiful sons' pockets over the years has told me so much about the minutiae of their lives. I would not want to miss one evening with them. I love them and none of us know how long we have with each other.

Wordsmithery · 26/08/2024 03:16

Smartiepants79 · 25/08/2024 22:31

I am not a boarder and neither are my children but I have to say I find the complete dismissal of some peoples lived experience- positive boarding experiences- to be quite extraordinary.

I don't think anyone's dismissing the positive experiences reported here (although they are sporadic, at best). Just presenting their own counter-experience, which is equally valid, and answers OP's question.
My siblings were sent to BS, were completely broken and we as a family have never recovered. That's my lived experience.

mumedu · 26/08/2024 03:40

Geppili · 26/08/2024 03:08

So sad about how you are pleased not to do sports laundry. Laundry and emptying out my beautiful sons' pockets over the years has told me so much about the minutiae of their lives. I would not want to miss one evening with them. I love them and none of us know how long we have with each other.

Exactly this. Children grow up so quickly and before you know it, they are adults and have flown the coop. Why not enjoy and appreciate the moments that you do have with them, smelly socks and all? I just don't understand you OP, although I am trying.

Greentreesandbushes · 26/08/2024 03:53

Asking parents of a boarder, wouldn’t you want to hold them in your arms after a bad day at school?

Christy135 · 26/08/2024 03:58

Despise is a strong term to use. For me the difficulty to understand is the idea that parents don’t see their child daily and are fine with it.
Lack of family time in the evening and all that. 🤷‍♀️

CurlewKate · 26/08/2024 03:58

It's not what happens at boarding school that's the problem. It's what doesn't happen at home.

Remaker · 26/08/2024 04:30

@miniaturepixieonacid the house parents might be well trained but much of the comforting is outsourced to untrained, barely paid gappies whose only ‘qualification’ is having attended a private school themselves. My friend’s 18yo daughter spent a year in a school for 7-13yo and it broke her heart holding a sick bowl for little boys who just wanted their mum.

CurlewKate · 26/08/2024 04:30

For me it's the missing out on the minutiae and trivialities of family life. For example, this weekend my adult children were laughing together about the time a particularly thick cat we had that jumped onto my lap and landed with both paws in my glass of wine.

ShinyNewMe · 26/08/2024 04:30

Why would you have your children board if the school is 20 mins away?

Quite. My daughter went, as a day pupil, to a school that had boarders.
It was 45 mins away and, like OP we live rurally and very few of her peers lived much closer than that. Any friendships or extra-curricular activities were accommodated by parents ferrying them around. Going home with a friend and then being collected later, whatever. It's not that difficult. It seems a bit over the top to overcome those minor complications by having them not come home at all. Some of the parents of day girls would accommodate a boarder friend
during the school holidays when the parents lived in another country. Now that's understandable. The rest is beyond my comprehension. But that's me.

ChampagneLassie · 26/08/2024 04:30

My DP and all his siblings boarded…they’ve turned out alright…but he has issues with connecting emotionally and whilst he enjoyed his school he also believes like many say on here you’re not getting that parental connection at such a vital stage. It forces you to withdraw and creat coping strategies which are not necessarily healthy. I wouldn’t be keen.

Topee · 26/08/2024 04:31

I know two people that boarded, both now adults in their 50s. Both feel it was damaging to them & both carry a lot of resentment about it. Both have difficult relationships with their mothers but not their fathers.

Not a choice I would make.

CurlewKate · 26/08/2024 04:34

Sorry, sent too soon. There are so many little trivialities and shared experiences that make up the "family glue" but you have to be there. I know boarding schools have long holidays- but there's still a lot of time that the kid/kids aren't there.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 26/08/2024 04:36

I watched a program that followed children in boarding schools and it broke my heart to see them crying for their mum. It's unnatural to be apart from your kids for extended periods of time to the point where I would question your love for them.

SnapdragonToadflax · 26/08/2024 04:39

The people I know who were boarders all have or had mental health problems, drug problems and are very clearly affected by their time there. They are not emotionally stable.

The fact that it's normal for some families doesn't mean it's a good idea.

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