For hating the new bottle tops

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What is going on?
Why were we not told that from now on we will never drink from a bottle without the half-cocked still-attached top spraying water/ milk/ juice all over our fronts?

Reseal

Exactly. You can push it down in the other side so it sits firmly down the side of the bottle and doesn't get in the way.
Plastic pollution is a horrendous environmental problem and it's really sad that so many people don't want to do this small thing that is barely an inconvenience.

Can't

It's not an inconvenience- some of us can't do it.

So bring your own reusable water bottle with you?
Continuing to manufacture a less recyclable product because a tiny minority can’t use the new design is not a good enough reason for the change. There will be people who can’t open traditional lids either.

How does that work for somebody who needs something like Lucozade or orange juice for a hypo? I'm no longer listed as one of the emergency contacts (as trained by the Diabetes Nursing Team) at work because I can't open the sealed for an emergency bottles anymore and would have to leave the kid(s) with their sugars dropping rapidly/Libre going batshit & Mum phoning Reception to find somebody else to open it for me.

It used to be with the deeper lids that even if my hands were hurting and swollen, I could hold a bottle and twist in both directions using my wrists to get them open easily. Now there isn't enough lid and what lid there is is a harder, sharper material that cuts the web between index finger and thumb or slices directly across the thumb.

Moreover, this means that a considerable number of people who are weakened due to having a hypo could well find out that they can't open the bottles either. If it's not somebody on blood thinners slicing their hand or thumb.

Oh, and the point was from Simon that the old bottles could be opened with specific tools. These can't.

I was on my hols in Europe a while back when I first came across them. Didn’t know how hard it was to line them back up to close properly

knocked a bottle of Diet Coke off my bedside table. It spun like a Catherine wheel on the floor then as I ran to the bathroom with it sprayed all over the room. I twist them off straight away now and it’s not always an easy thing

I mean, in the nicest way, your incredibly rare niche problem isn’t really a consideration to the manufacturing of millions of plastic bottles.
A diabetic can have all sorts of things to adjust their sugars.

The chances of someone being diabetic and the only thing available to them is a lucozade and both them and the person with them both being unable to open the bottle is incredibly unlikely.
If they can’t open bottles they can carry jelly beans with them.

If someone needs orange juice can't they carry those little cartons?

Do you mean to be so offensive?

How are you so sure that it's a "tiny minority"
And smart companies design to take into account the minorities not to shut them out.

Honestly I'm just amazed that so many people find something that simple such a drain on their resources. I guess you can't have much else to worry about!

The training said that sweets weren't quick acting enough, compared to a drink. Part of the risk assessment and management of children with T1 in schools is to always hold a stock of their own snacks and drinks in a dedicated place/fridge with medication. There's over 36,000 children with diabetes in the UK and fewer than that number of schools, which means statistically, there is going to be a minimum of 1-2 children in every school with T1.

Other than that, 23% of the population is over 65 and 24% (the two may overlap at times, being 11% children, 23% working age and 45% over state pension age) have a disability. Add into that people who didn't state they had a disability at census as they might think it's just age and that's a pretty sizeable number of people - to have a teeny little, inconsequential, 'niche problem'.

I absolutely hate them

Because everyone's a litter lout and incapable of disposing of them properly?

I hate them because for some reason,the bastarding lid will not screw back onto the bottle properly. Never had a problem with them before,but now,I'm struggling with the damn things for ages. Then even when I think it's back on properly,it's not,and leaks into my bag.

Glad it's not just me who can't get them lined up to close properly! Thought I was just being inept.

I find them fine, no problem to open, use and close, and it’s a much better idea environmentally. I can understand the problem if you have gripping problems but not otherwise.

They’re pretty new on the market and I’d guess that the design will evolve to make them easier for everyone to use.

You think having a disability is embarrassing?

YANBU 🤣 I’ve taken your post as lighthearted. On a serious note they’re a nightmare for people with arthritic hands- DM cuts them off.

I personally love them. I’m sorry they annoy you though.

It's only now I live with someone whose hand coordination is impaired that I realise just how unfriendly most packaging is. These bottle tops included. She cannot line them up to get them back on and on things like milk cartons they spill the milk because you have to pour at a precise angle not to hit the top.

There must be a design that keeps the top with the bottle that is easier to use - especially for people with weakened or less coordinated hands.

And people who can't manage the tops... I'd be embarrassed to admit that, tbh.

And offensive bullshit like this doesn't help

On the contrary I have many frustrations and "drains on my resources" that's why I don't need another one.