For hating the new bottle tops

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What is going on?
Why were we not told that from now on we will never drink from a bottle without the half-cocked still-attached top spraying water/ milk/ juice all over our fronts?

From a recycling/health point of view... yes... the lids may have been a problem...

But is the fact that we're using billions of bottles not a bigger concern in the first place?

And the fact that for the most part bottled water is a marketing con... and fizzy drinks are actually a 100% luxury item that no one actually needs (although I do love a 7up Zero!!).

I always crush the bottle and screw the lid back on to reduce the volume.
But regarding the posts that suggest loose caps are not sortable/recoverable why can't recycling companies come up with a solution instead of the burden being passed onto the whole population?

Do you see how angry people get when you take a commonly polluting item and make it marginally less polluting? They lose their minds. Can you imagine if anyone suggested banning plastic bottles altogether?

Exactly this and if you accidentally get them at the wrong angle they slop all over the place.

Presumably the people who came up with this ridiculous idea and / or designed them don't use them.

I has most of a 2l bottle of lemonade go flat recently because we couldn't get the stupid lid to go back on properly even after we'd given up and snapped it off..

They incite an irrational rage.. all because some pathetic lazy idiots can't be arsed to bin tops

The design that keeps ring pulls on cans is fine but these are hopeless

Try getting confused and drinking out of the lid instead of the bottle! Never happened to me, nope, never...

I’m not sure that we’re talking about the same bottle caps. The ones I’m talking about don’t require holding back, the lids whilst still attached just pop backwards and stay in place under very little pressure.

Hate them. On paper/card milk cartons the twist just takes the cardboard packet with them and it’s virtually impossible to open some now.

We’re very much talking about the same ones.

Ok- maybe you could ask somebody to show you how to push the lid into place? You shouldn’t be having to hold it back in order to drink from the bottle. I can see why it would be difficult to drink from if you haven’t popped it into place. It doesn’t require much force (much less than that needed to open the bottle)

I actually didn't realise until the new bottle tops appeared that the lids were recyclable. I'd always heard you had to put the bottle in the recycling minus the lid so used to ensure I took them off and put the bottle in the recycling and the lid in the normal bin. At work we had someone who collected the lids for some sort of charity thing, because they apparently weren't recyclable. If I'd been told years ago the lid was recyclable I'd had have been recycling them with the bottles.

Care to show someone with athrogryposis how to do it?

(If you don't screw the lid back on when you put the bottle in the recycling, wouldn't the dregs of the drink make your bag/box/bin all sticky and unpleasant?)
No because I rinse bottles then let them dry before recycling.

@HungryLittleCrocodile

"SOME people are quite capable of making sure the lids go in the recycle bin as well as the bottles"

I think the point of the new lid is that they are still attached to the bottle as they are more difficult to recycle separately.
I've always screwed the lids back on anyway.

They do need to come up with a different design though!

Deeply annoying to the people in my family with dyspraxia and sensory issues who can't focus on drinking with the additional lid in the way. You can't put it up in the middle because noses, and any other way is off balance.
Both children have hypermobility in their hands which causes them to be weaker than average.

I have to yank the bloody things off to drink which turns out to be bad for the environment in additional serviette wastage...

I always put the caps back on in the first place so this hasn't solved any problem anyway and just increases use of other consumables.

Ring pulls were a practical positive change. No more snapping off half-way up.

Maybe ask your occupational therapist? The mechanism of popping the lid back doesn’t require much force, perhaps they can show you how to do it.

Not so long ago, we were asked to put them in the recycling separately, as the plastics are different!

I hate them too. I rip them off, and then have cut my skin on the plastic.

Don't get me started on the vacuum packed steak. The tags never work, so you end up stabbing the packaging with knives or scissors and getting blood everywhere.

THIS! ^ I am getting sick to death of thoughtless obnoxious comments on this thread (from a few posters) who don't seem to give a flying fuck about people with disabilities and different physical conditions, that mean they REALLY struggle with these bottles. 'Oh get yourself a reusable water bottle' some people are bleating! What if someone is out and about and they buy a bottle of water or another drink and they have this ghastly lid on? They may have the reusable bottle but they still have to contend with the attached lid, and have to open it/snap it off (before the water can go into the reusable bottle.)

And what about orange juice and other bottles you will keep in the fridge for the family? Are we meant to decant everything into separate bloody 'reusable' bottles now? If the GOVERNMENT/powers-that-be care so much about this shit, they should support and fund shops that sell stuff where you can fill up your own container or bottle in the shop, and dispense with ALL plastic packaging!

Someone with arthrogryposis wouldn’t be able to apply any force.

They're a bit annoying and will take getting used to, but a small price to pay for the environment. And actually, the upside is that you don't accidentally drop/ lose the lid. Both my children can be very clumsy, and often removed the old lids, lost them, left the drink open and then ended up spilling the drink. Far fewer accidents like that now!

I'm still not a fan of paper straws (hate the feel of them in my mouth initially and they just bend, break and go soggy). But again, I tolerate them because there's a much bigger picture out there than my mild inconvenience.

Watch this BBC explainer - maybe it’s annoying but for the volume of plastic waste that can never be put back in the proverbial bottle (excuse the pun) it is surely worth trying something new, right?

www.instagram.com/reel/C9rhfcZMRof/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

I may be wrong about this, but as far as I can see the posters saying “you only have to snap the attached lid back into place” just mean “you have to make sure the thread of the lid is square against the thread on the bottle”. If so, that’s true, but it’s more difficult than squaring a loose lid because the attached lid is being put back on from the side, not from directly above. I often have to give attached lids one or two extra tries.

Frankly, it’s not the biggest imposition in modern life but it is very irritating.

Presumably if they were able to open the old bottles then the method or tools used could be adapted to flip the cap back? I think the occupational therapist is best placed to show you

I hate them too, always snap them off. But whole bottle goes in recycling. I even bring my recycling home if out and about.
I can remember when you had to remove the lid for recycling.

Just push the lid back away from you until they click, it's not hard.

Those reusing single use plastic bottles - don't. It's not good for.you. Buy a reusable plastic or metal bottle FGS.

In France recently we came across bottles that had little attached flip top lids rather than attached screw top, that seemed like a better idea.

Here we are trying to save the planet with these bloody annoying bottle caps, and crappy paper straws, and meanwhile Justin Bieber’s wife is taking a private jet just to get her nails done.