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My husband wants a baby, I don’t. AIBU?

326 replies

dazedandconfuseddaily · 25/08/2024 09:32

AIBU. I’ve been with my husband (45) for 11 years, married for 10. I have one DD 23 (I was 16 when I had her) who has just finished Medical school. I’ve worked hard to build my career (board level at large corporate), and love my life, we do what we want when we want. I’ve been clear with my husband from the off that I wasn’t phased about having another child. And he was very much if it happens it happens, if it doesn’t it doesn’t, without actively trying. There was a period 7 years ago where he pushed to actively try, to which my response was when I see you walking the dog more and doing more around the house then we can talk about it (he’s worked from home for 10+ years), which sort of paused it for a few years. It’s now come back around again as a subject. We’re both fine fertility wise.

But the thought of dealing with a pregnancy and a newborn at this point in my life is not appealing. I see friends my age who’ve had a baby at 39/40 and they’ve aged 10 years overnight.

Apparently I’m now being unreasonable for not being willing to entertain the idea.

OP posts:
labamba007 · 25/08/2024 10:01

takealettermsjones · 25/08/2024 09:41

The problem is that "not fazed," "if it happens, it happens," and "when you do more around the house" are all really vague. Now you're both in the last-chance stage it's turned into a flat no. For him, that's a hard pill to swallow, no matter how much he's shirked the chores. Relationship counselling might help you work through it.

Exactly this. It should've been much clearer to him that you absolutely didn't want children. And he should've been much clearer to you that he did.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 25/08/2024 10:01

Assume there’s a lot of money coming in now, particularly if your dd has finished uni so you aren’t supporting her. Can you afford the help that stops you ending up like your contemporaries having dcs in their 40s being so knackered? (Eg cleaner multiple times a week, nanny.)

Would he be a sahd? Would he actually do it or would he expect to still work, use childcare and ultimately you take the bulk of the juggling work?

PlantMumsy · 25/08/2024 10:03

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 25/08/2024 09:41

Surely if you are at board level of a large corporate then you can afford cleaner etc and also if he is the primary carer then it shouldn’t impact you on a day to day level.
i do think YANBU to decide whatever you want but at the same time your husband is now 45 and childless! And you’ve let him have a long term relationship with the feeling that one day he’d have a child. If the sexes were reversed here you’d be coming off very badly OP. SMH

“It shouldn’t impact you on a day to day level”

are you serious??

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/08/2024 10:03

I bet one million pounds that he's a shit SAHP if given the chance and you'll end up being the breadwinner, doing most of the housework and most of the childcare.

Just don't. And I saw that as a woman who didn't want a child, DH convinced me and DD is the best person in the world. But DH is incredibly hardworking and a wonderful father. And would have walked the dog 100% of the time!

Chocolateorange22 · 25/08/2024 10:04

Maybe marriage counselling to bash to it out without the emotion attached to it? You can outline your reasons and highlight his faults at not being able to look after an animal etc. Then listen to his point of view. You'll know either way then whether it's a marriage breaker or not.

Pandasnacks · 25/08/2024 10:07

How do you no you are fine fertility wise?

Dotto · 25/08/2024 10:08

Tell him that if he doesn't stop harassing you the relationship is over. You are not a brood mare.

Tandora · 25/08/2024 10:09

PerkyMintDeer · 25/08/2024 09:59

You aren't unreasonable to want no more kids and he isn't unreasonable to want a child.

You were both unreasonable to marry whilst being so wishy washy about wanting kids.

I don't think you should give in and have a child to please him, but I do think (having been in your husband's place) that someone who wants a child should never be expected to sacrifice the opportunity to become a parent. Ideally he would have come to this realisation before you got married...but he didn't. If it was me, I'd let him go and hope he had his chance to be a Dad, painful as it may be.

And I'm saying that as someone for whom the wanting/not wanting kids problem ended an otherwise very beautiful relationship. It was absolutely the right thing to do as either way if one of us got want we wanted, ten or more years down the line it would be only natural for a lot of resentment and grief to set in and ruin what we had anyway.

You'd have had very different answers if the gender roles were reversed here.

I do sympathise. It's a horrible situation to be in.

Edited

You'd have had very different answers if the gender roles were reversed here

you can’t just reverse gender roles when it comes to having babies. Men and women have very different experiences in relation to reproduction. There is no equivalence.

RampantIvy · 25/08/2024 10:10

Who on earth are the 11% who think YABU?.
Are they the type of woman who thinks that not feeling broody is unnatural?

Of course YANBU. If you don't want another child then you get the final say so. No discussion. End of.

And a massive congratulations on doing so well to you and your DD @dazedandconfuseddaily

Pistachiochiochio · 25/08/2024 10:11

dazedandconfuseddaily · 25/08/2024 09:39

It was a first date conversation (we were friends for 6 years first). And an ongoing one prior to us getting married.

But you've been having unprotected sex for 7 years? Is that what "if it happens it happens" means? If not what does it mean?

bunnypenny · 25/08/2024 10:11

Dotto · 25/08/2024 10:08

Tell him that if he doesn't stop harassing you the relationship is over. You are not a brood mare.

The reality is the relationship is over anyway.

dazedandconfuseddaily · 25/08/2024 10:11

2sisters · 25/08/2024 09:43

Fuck that. You've done all of the baby stuff. Its a huge age gap. I had my DC at 40 and 42 and I have aged, what seems like 100 years, there are also lots of additional risks being an older mum. He wants a baby but would he be able to dare for one if they had additional needs?

God no he wouldn’t (nor would I).

OP posts:
MrsTerryPratchett · 25/08/2024 10:11

Quite @Tandora

Pregnancy and childbirth are dangerous for women, sometimes resulting in life-changing injuries. BFing is really tough and many of the changes are a difficult adjustment. PND is possible.

Plus, with a man who can't walk a dog 50% of the time, you should expect she will be doing massively more than 50% of the work at home, as well as being a WOHM.

StormingNorman · 25/08/2024 10:13

You say you were clear from the start but your OP isn’t clear at all. You’ve flip flopped back and forth, had serious conversations and given him hope. It reads as if you’ve only just decided you don’t want children.

Irrespective, you don’t want a child and need to tell him so he can decide whether it’s something he’s happy with or needs to pursue with someone else.

Pixiewombat · 25/08/2024 10:14

My mum had me late & I always thought she struggled. Now I'm menopausal, I can see why exactly.

Unless you really want a baby, don't do it. You might sail through menopause but again, you might not & DH doesn't sound like he would step up much.

dazedandconfuseddaily · 25/08/2024 10:17

labamba007 · 25/08/2024 10:01

Exactly this. It should've been much clearer to him that you absolutely didn't want children. And he should've been much clearer to you that he did.

It’s never been unclear to him. We’ve been together 11 years and have known each other 17 at no point has this ever been unclear to him.

OP posts:
Wwyd2025 · 25/08/2024 10:17

Ugh no way would I have another child in my 40s.

I would tell him your answer is no, he's welcome to leave and find someone else to have a child with but he needs to stop pestering you when he knew how you felt piror to marrying!

RandomMess · 25/08/2024 10:21

Tell him you have entertained the idea and then list the reasons why the answer is a resolute no:

He doesn't even do 50% of dog care (and whatever else)
Risk of SN child
You nearly died the first time
Impact on your career

And on and on and on

user1492757084 · 25/08/2024 10:21

PerkyMintDeer · 25/08/2024 09:59

You aren't unreasonable to want no more kids and he isn't unreasonable to want a child.

You were both unreasonable to marry whilst being so wishy washy about wanting kids.

I don't think you should give in and have a child to please him, but I do think (having been in your husband's place) that someone who wants a child should never be expected to sacrifice the opportunity to become a parent. Ideally he would have come to this realisation before you got married...but he didn't. If it was me, I'd let him go and hope he had his chance to be a Dad, painful as it may be.

And I'm saying that as someone for whom the wanting/not wanting kids problem ended an otherwise very beautiful relationship. It was absolutely the right thing to do as either way if one of us got want we wanted, ten or more years down the line it would be only natural for a lot of resentment and grief to set in and ruin what we had anyway.

You'd have had very different answers if the gender roles were reversed here.

I do sympathise. It's a horrible situation to be in.

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cheezncrackers · 25/08/2024 10:23

YANBU and your chance of having a DC with SEN is higher the older you are, so you could quite easily go from your lovely, easy life with one grown-up DD and a well-paid responsible job to not being able to work, tied to the house, unable to go on holiday easily, skint and full of resentment for the man who put you in that position. And I bet he wouldn't bloody pull his weight in caring for said DC, since he can't even walk the fucking dogs half the time. If a DC is by no means a deal breaker for your relationship, I'd be making it crystal clear at this point that you're not having one and let him get used to the idea.

And just from your POV, why the hell would you want to have another baby when you did the pregnancy/baby/toddler/14 years of school/school holidays/exams and general childcare shit and have finally sailed out the other side with your life and health intact? You'd be mad to even consider it!

Dotto · 25/08/2024 10:24

The chance of having multiples is also higher at increased maternal age.

Naunet · 25/08/2024 10:25

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 25/08/2024 09:41

Surely if you are at board level of a large corporate then you can afford cleaner etc and also if he is the primary carer then it shouldn’t impact you on a day to day level.
i do think YANBU to decide whatever you want but at the same time your husband is now 45 and childless! And you’ve let him have a long term relationship with the feeling that one day he’d have a child. If the sexes were reversed here you’d be coming off very badly OP. SMH

You must be man to claim it wouldn’t impact her, what a ridiculous thing to say. She’s also not responsible for his life choices, she didn’t force him to be 45 and child free. Please do also tell us how you reverse the sexes here? Have I missed the news that men can now get pregnant and give birth and take on all the risks involved, all the recovery?

OP is not coming off badly at all, but you are.

Octopies · 25/08/2024 10:25

If it's not a dealbreaker for him, is it not an open and shut case of you don't have a baby? Neither me or DH have kids. DH is slightly more open to the idea of having kids, because it's something he always assumed he would do. I know I would be the one expected to stay home and raise them and that isn't what I want, so we don't have them. If he did a 180 overnight and told me he definitely wants them and he's put in place a plan where I'm not taking on all the responsibility for the house and parenting, and I started to see it in action consistently for a while, then I'd be open to having the conversation again.

Anything less than both people in the relationship being fully on board with being parents, on terms which both are happy with, seems quite unfair on the child.

Nicebloomers · 25/08/2024 10:25

I wouldn’t want a baby in your circumstances either. I don’t think he realises what a massive upheaval it would be, mostly for you of course.

PerkyMintDeer · 25/08/2024 10:26

Tandora · 25/08/2024 10:09

You'd have had very different answers if the gender roles were reversed here

you can’t just reverse gender roles when it comes to having babies. Men and women have very different experiences in relation to reproduction. There is no equivalence.

I shouldn't have said "gender roles" when I meant genders.

My point is;

If it was a woman who was being denied the opportunity to have a child here, she'd be getting told to leave the man and have a child. "No man is worth missing out being a mother for! He led you up the garden path then changed his mind! LTB!" en masse.

A lot of posters seem to think it's perfectly reasonable to expect OPs husband to just suck up not having a kid and for things to carry on as they are now in the marriage. I don't think that's fair and I don't think a woman posting on here that her husband had decided he didn't want kids would be generally expected to get over being childless for the rest of her life and plod along in the marriage.

I'm not saying OP should have a child, as of course she will have to carry and give birth (and seemingly do all of the childcare) and that's not fair on her at all when it's not what she wants.

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