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My husband wants a baby, I don’t. AIBU?

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dazedandconfuseddaily · 25/08/2024 09:32

AIBU. I’ve been with my husband (45) for 11 years, married for 10. I have one DD 23 (I was 16 when I had her) who has just finished Medical school. I’ve worked hard to build my career (board level at large corporate), and love my life, we do what we want when we want. I’ve been clear with my husband from the off that I wasn’t phased about having another child. And he was very much if it happens it happens, if it doesn’t it doesn’t, without actively trying. There was a period 7 years ago where he pushed to actively try, to which my response was when I see you walking the dog more and doing more around the house then we can talk about it (he’s worked from home for 10+ years), which sort of paused it for a few years. It’s now come back around again as a subject. We’re both fine fertility wise.

But the thought of dealing with a pregnancy and a newborn at this point in my life is not appealing. I see friends my age who’ve had a baby at 39/40 and they’ve aged 10 years overnight.

Apparently I’m now being unreasonable for not being willing to entertain the idea.

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Mintypig · 25/08/2024 19:16

Just say no. You can’t undo this decision if you agree under duress. The reality of children is hard graft and no sleep. Trust me, he will be handing you the baby and going out!

Octopies · 25/08/2024 20:31

Goldbar · 25/08/2024 19:01

It's a bit like buying a child a pet, isn't it?

"Mum, mum, if you let me have a hamster, I'll change it's bedding, I'll clean out its cage, I'll feed it and give it water".

You need to buy the hamster in the knowledge that you'll probably end up doing and paying for everything.

My MIL did this to me. Got a pet which ended up not getting along with another pet in her household. Palmed it off on my DH (ergo me) despite me saying I didn't want to be responsible for another pet in my house. DH has done little to care for said pet since it arrived. I've done all the care so far for a couple of years on the basis, I don't like to see animals mistreated and caring for it takes a relatively small amount of time. But I broke my leg last week and DH is already making up excuses as to why he's far too busy to clean said animal out. I'm not anti having kids, but felt relieved we don't have any given the excuses he's given for not tending to the pets properly whilst I've been unable to!

dazedandconfuseddaily · 25/08/2024 23:38

One thing that really surprises me are the amount of people who jump to divorce if we disagre. Or are certain that it well end in divorce. To those I say you’re with the wrong person or need to work harder on your marriage. Whatever way this goes (most likely non kid, as its a whim his side), it will not end in divorce. We’re happy, we love each other and have had many instances of no questions asked or love is unconditinal.

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Goldbar · 25/08/2024 23:42

Octopies · 25/08/2024 20:31

My MIL did this to me. Got a pet which ended up not getting along with another pet in her household. Palmed it off on my DH (ergo me) despite me saying I didn't want to be responsible for another pet in my house. DH has done little to care for said pet since it arrived. I've done all the care so far for a couple of years on the basis, I don't like to see animals mistreated and caring for it takes a relatively small amount of time. But I broke my leg last week and DH is already making up excuses as to why he's far too busy to clean said animal out. I'm not anti having kids, but felt relieved we don't have any given the excuses he's given for not tending to the pets properly whilst I've been unable to!

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Can you re-home the animal? Or alternatively your DH?

dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 00:16

Goldbar · 25/08/2024 23:42

Can you re-home the animal? Or alternatively your DH?

Rehome the MIL. Never rehome an animal. If you have to you shouldn’t have them in the first place.

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BlackShuck3 · 26/08/2024 00:18

@Octopies
Please dont think about becoming a parent (if that's on the table at all for you) unless you can sort out the problem with your MIL, ie that she has you wrapped around her little finger, & her son is unable to stand up to her.

BlackShuck3 · 26/08/2024 00:20

dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 00:16

Rehome the MIL. Never rehome an animal. If you have to you shouldn’t have them in the first place.

In this case the animal was forced upon her- I'd have posted it straight back through MIL's letter box!

dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 00:57

BlackShuck3 · 26/08/2024 00:20

In this case the animal was forced upon her- I'd have posted it straight back through MIL's letter box!

Agreed. MIL is APITA. What is the animal? I’d be happy to offer a home to it.

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dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 00:59

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 25/08/2024 10:01

Assume there’s a lot of money coming in now, particularly if your dd has finished uni so you aren’t supporting her. Can you afford the help that stops you ending up like your contemporaries having dcs in their 40s being so knackered? (Eg cleaner multiple times a week, nanny.)

Would he be a sahd? Would he actually do it or would he expect to still work, use childcare and ultimately you take the bulk of the juggling work?

Yes I earn well and we have a cleaner. Which was difficult for me, as I clean to a level, she’s the only one I’ve found who beats me!

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dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:02

Chocolateorange22 · 25/08/2024 10:04

Maybe marriage counselling to bash to it out without the emotion attached to it? You can outline your reasons and highlight his faults at not being able to look after an animal etc. Then listen to his point of view. You'll know either way then whether it's a marriage breaker or not.

No. We’d be divorced before marriage counselling! If you’re doing that you’re half way there!

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 26/08/2024 01:07

I met my now hubby when he was early 40s and I was 37. He had no bio children and had come to an acceptance he likely wouldn't. I already had two sons - 7 and 10 when we first met. I didn't want any more and he was OK with that.
Fast forward a few years and I very surprisingly fell pregnant at 39 whilst taking the pill absolutely to the letter. We were both in total shock but after that had worn off we started to come around to the idea. Sadly I miscarried.
It was at that point I changed my mind and decided that I did want to have a bio baby with my hubby. We now have a 4 yo at the ages of 43 and 48! My two sons - 14 and 17 - think the world of her although it took them some getting used to when we first told them!
I am so happy my husband is now a daddy. There will definitely be no more as he's had a vasectomy!
However, he is a very hands-on father. We both work and he loves nothing more than to spend time with our daughter. I always knew he would be otherwise I wouldn't have gone for another one.

Flatandhappy · 26/08/2024 01:08

You know that when it comes to it it would be all on you. 45 years is a long time to get used to being able to do what you want, when you want. The reality of life with a child would be a huge shock to your DH and inevitably you would be the one who would have to sort everything out when “having a baby” was more work than he expected. Don’t do it.

dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:09

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/08/2024 10:41

i can see both sides. You were pretty vague to be fair. “Not phased” is very different to no.

I was not vague at all with him. For purposes of brevity I described situation!

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dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:12

PerkyMintDeer · 25/08/2024 09:59

You aren't unreasonable to want no more kids and he isn't unreasonable to want a child.

You were both unreasonable to marry whilst being so wishy washy about wanting kids.

I don't think you should give in and have a child to please him, but I do think (having been in your husband's place) that someone who wants a child should never be expected to sacrifice the opportunity to become a parent. Ideally he would have come to this realisation before you got married...but he didn't. If it was me, I'd let him go and hope he had his chance to be a Dad, painful as it may be.

And I'm saying that as someone for whom the wanting/not wanting kids problem ended an otherwise very beautiful relationship. It was absolutely the right thing to do as either way if one of us got want we wanted, ten or more years down the line it would be only natural for a lot of resentment and grief to set in and ruin what we had anyway.

You'd have had very different answers if the gender roles were reversed here.

I do sympathise. It's a horrible situation to be in.

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We were not wish washy. And after 10 years of marriage there is an evolution. He’s not going anywhere, he loves me. I’m his compass. Why is it have a kid or don’t or get divorced? This confuses me and us (he’s seen all of this thread) especially from other women it’s bizarre.

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dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:15

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 26/08/2024 01:07

I met my now hubby when he was early 40s and I was 37. He had no bio children and had come to an acceptance he likely wouldn't. I already had two sons - 7 and 10 when we first met. I didn't want any more and he was OK with that.
Fast forward a few years and I very surprisingly fell pregnant at 39 whilst taking the pill absolutely to the letter. We were both in total shock but after that had worn off we started to come around to the idea. Sadly I miscarried.
It was at that point I changed my mind and decided that I did want to have a bio baby with my hubby. We now have a 4 yo at the ages of 43 and 48! My two sons - 14 and 17 - think the world of her although it took them some getting used to when we first told them!
I am so happy my husband is now a daddy. There will definitely be no more as he's had a vasectomy!
However, he is a very hands-on father. We both work and he loves nothing more than to spend time with our daughter. I always knew he would be otherwise I wouldn't have gone for another one.

My husband would be a very hands on father. But I’m nearing 40, nearly died first time round and he doesn’t adult in the way a parent needs to adult. It does not make him lazy or unworthy of me as some of the posts I’ve seen 🤬. We adult differently.

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 26/08/2024 01:16

@dazedandconfuseddaily Ultimately is he OK with not having a biological child of his own? Of course it absolutely OK for you to not want one but how does he feel going forward?

dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:21

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 26/08/2024 01:16

@dazedandconfuseddaily Ultimately is he OK with not having a biological child of his own? Of course it absolutely OK for you to not want one but how does he feel going forward?

He is absolutely fine with it. I posed a quandary on mumsnet and it’s blonde into you new to get a divorce/ he’ll dump you/ I have no idea. When in reality, my husband loves me, yes there’s a discussion to have/come up but whatever the outcome we’re not getting a divorce. He continually says it’s unconditional when you get married, which it is. If your default is divorce go away and take a long walk off a short plank!

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 26/08/2024 01:21

@dazedandconfuseddaily Sorry - I thought you said he doesn't do much around the house? Helping out with household chores is massive when you have a small child. My husband literally did all of the cooking for the first few years when we had our daughter as well as lots of other domestic stuff. I was 39 when I had her and also with a 11 and 13 yo (in height of lockdown!) so thank goodness!!

dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:23

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 26/08/2024 01:21

@dazedandconfuseddaily Sorry - I thought you said he doesn't do much around the house? Helping out with household chores is massive when you have a small child. My husband literally did all of the cooking for the first few years when we had our daughter as well as lots of other domestic stuff. I was 39 when I had her and also with a 11 and 13 yo (in height of lockdown!) so thank goodness!!

I said he didn’t. He still does do a lot. Doesn’t make him lazy or an arse. Just want I view as important he doesn’t. He’s a tidier, I’m a cleaner two very separate things.

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 26/08/2024 01:24

@dazedandconfuseddaily If he's genuinely happy with it then there is literally zero issue. Enjoy your married life together!

fedupoftheheatnow · 26/08/2024 01:25

@dazedandconfuseddaily

"He is absolutely fine with it. I posed a quandary on mumsnet and it’s blonde into you new to get a divorce/ he’ll dump you/ I have no idea. When in reality, my husband loves me, yes there’s a discussion to have/come up but whatever the outcome we’re not getting a divorce. He continually says it’s unconditional when you get married, which it is. If your default is divorce go away and take a long walk off a short plank!"

You create a thread in which you paint your husband as being unreasonable. You quote other posters saying youre absolutely in the right. Then you say those who've agreed with how you've painted your husband are wrong? What was the point in posting then?

dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:27

fedupoftheheatnow · 26/08/2024 01:25

@dazedandconfuseddaily

"He is absolutely fine with it. I posed a quandary on mumsnet and it’s blonde into you new to get a divorce/ he’ll dump you/ I have no idea. When in reality, my husband loves me, yes there’s a discussion to have/come up but whatever the outcome we’re not getting a divorce. He continually says it’s unconditional when you get married, which it is. If your default is divorce go away and take a long walk off a short plank!"

You create a thread in which you paint your husband as being unreasonable. You quote other posters saying youre absolutely in the right. Then you say those who've agreed with how you've painted your husband are wrong? What was the point in posting then?

No I created a thread saying my husband said I was unreasonable for not entertaining the idea of a child. At no point did I say he was unreasonable.

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steff13 · 26/08/2024 01:29

You're never unreasonable not to want a baby.

I'm impressed by your daughter; here in the US you don't finish undergrad until 22. Medical school is another four years after that, plus internships. You don't graduate until nearly 30. She must be brilliant.

dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:36

steff13 · 26/08/2024 01:29

You're never unreasonable not to want a baby.

I'm impressed by your daughter; here in the US you don't finish undergrad until 22. Medical school is another four years after that, plus internships. You don't graduate until nearly 30. She must be brilliant.

Thank you. In the UK if you get AAA etc at alevel (I also did) you can study medicine and be a dr by 23.

I’ve worked fucking hard to enable this as has she to score it!

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dazedandconfuseddaily · 26/08/2024 01:37

JLou08 · 25/08/2024 16:34

It w %%%as unreasonable to use the possibility of a baby and dangle it in front of him to get him doing more. It was unreasonable to not be straight forward and say you do not want a child rather than wait 10 years into the relationship to tell him.
Nothing unreasonable about not wanting a baby, it is something both parents should want 100%, but he should have known that you do not want another baby from the beginning.

I did not do this. And have been exceptionally straightforward.

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