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AIBU?

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To expect my mum to look after her only grandchild on her own for 2 hours a week?

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Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 13:20

My mother is 75. She is relatively fit and healthy and leads an active lifestyle.

I am 35 and have one child. She will be an only child for various reasons, including health reasons (I have a heart condition and also had bad PPD).

My child is 1. She is the only child in the entire family as both my brother and my DH’s sister aren’t going to have children.

I work freelance. One morning we have outside help with my child, one morning MIL comes down to help, and one morning my mum helps.

My mum also sees my daughter everyday for an hour or so - she comes to have lunch with me in my house on most days.

Whenever she has my daughter for the morning I can guarantee she will be difficult with me when I pick her up. She is tetchy, snappy and talks about how difficult it was, how tired she is and she is almost resentful at me. She adores my daughter, and I appreciate that she is getting older, but 2 hours isn’t that long considering it’s only once a week.

Each time I go and pick my daughter up, I make a big effort to be chirpy and in a good mood. Today, despite very little sleep for 4 nights, I tried my hardest to not put a foot wrong. Yet still I was met with complaints. I suggested I had lunch alone, to give her a break from my daughter as I could see she was in a bad mood and I wanted to avoid a big argument.

It didn’t work and she became even more agitated and then sent me a barrage of 20 messages about how she wouldn’t look after my daughter again and how disrespectful I was etc etc.

I don’t know what to do. AIBU? Should I send my daughter to nursery instead for the morning my mum has her? I can’t stand the feeling of resentment much longer. When I try to talk to her, she just snaps and denies being in the wrong.

I would appreciate your advice.

OP posts:
GivingitToGod · 20/08/2024 17:27

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 17:15

A lot of interest in my lunches with my mum.

We have a close relationship and even before having my child, we did this.

She often picks stuff up for lunch, or I do. When she comes over, I often prepare the lunch and she plays with my daughter.

It is not because she’s lonely, or doesn’t have a partner (my dad) but because we get on well.

That’s why it’s upsetting that she behaves like this after having my daughter.

For those of you who haven’t read my updates, my mum insisted on helping me one morning a week (2 hours).

I totally get where you are coming from OP,I can see why you are upset

Mary46 · 20/08/2024 17:27

Its hard op we found our mum the same. Think nursery/creche prob best. They dont have the same energies for kids. I babysat my nieces I was wrecked it was only a few hrs im 50s! So maybe she feels its too much

Zanatdy · 20/08/2024 17:28

Newposter180 · 20/08/2024 17:24

She did agree to it in advance - and encouraged the OP to move house near her so that she could help!!

Surely when you’re in your 70’s you shouldn’t be held accountable to something you agreed to hypothetically. Despite OP saying her mum is active, looking after a toddler isn’t easy and isn’t the same as going to work or lunch with friends. Even if she just doesn’t want to do it anymore that should be fine. Half a morning childcare shouldn’t break the bank

Fromage · 20/08/2024 17:29

OP I've only read your posts - from which I gather your mum has offered (even been insistent?) to look after your dd, but when she does, she complains.

You've had a bit of an undeserved bashing, but I think the way ahead is whatever best protects the good relationship you have with your mum, and ditto your dd.

Do you think your mum offers because your MIL helps too?

Whatwouldnanado · 20/08/2024 17:29

I bristled at the word ‘expect’. Find other child care.

LessOfMe99 · 20/08/2024 17:30

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Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 17:31

Zanatdy · 20/08/2024 17:28

Surely when you’re in your 70’s you shouldn’t be held accountable to something you agreed to hypothetically. Despite OP saying her mum is active, looking after a toddler isn’t easy and isn’t the same as going to work or lunch with friends. Even if she just doesn’t want to do it anymore that should be fine. Half a morning childcare shouldn’t break the bank

Well, just say you don't want to do it anymore!
According to the op, the gp agrees to do it and then complains about it. That sounds massively passively aggressive to me. Could be wrong...

Mil3nnial · 20/08/2024 17:32

YABU to expect it yes

No one owes you childcare

My in laws are that age and I wouldn't expect them to look after a one year old

Even my own parents who are much younger would have struggled

Ultimately it's their choice even if they can do it

ThinWomansBrain · 20/08/2024 17:32

however fit and active she is, she either can't cope or doesn't want to - and why should she?
organise proper child care or work when her father can take care of her.

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 17:33

Mil3nnial · 20/08/2024 17:32

YABU to expect it yes

No one owes you childcare

My in laws are that age and I wouldn't expect them to look after a one year old

Even my own parents who are much younger would have struggled

Ultimately it's their choice even if they can do it

Her mum agrees to do it and then complains?!

theteddybear · 20/08/2024 17:34

My mil is similar age and doesn't do any babysitting of the younger kids under 5 in the family. She will take my eldest who is 7 for a day here and there in school holidays. She just finds the little ones too much for her. If they run off she can't catch them so wld be stuck indoors. She wld look after them in an emergency or maybe a one off but not every week.

You need to get outside help for those 2hrs. Your mum is trying to tell you without coming out and just saying I can't do it anymore. You don't seem to be picking up on this (by finding alternative arrangements) which is why she's snappy with you.

My friends mum is older and takes her 2 kids overnight and watches them all the time but she obviously finds it ok or just really wants to do it.

Katemax82 · 20/08/2024 17:35

Don't feel bad op, she offered and is now being difficult about it. It's not as if your forcing her to help.

WoolySnail · 20/08/2024 17:39

OP the mistake you've made is how you've worded your title, which is why so many people have jumped to bash you (some without even reading your updates). If she demands to do it, but then is angry when she does, then you can't win no matter what you do. I'd arrange alternative child care and tell your mum it frees her up for you and your little one to do fun things together. Best of luck x

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 17:39

Mum9191 · 20/08/2024 16:46

Wow the comments here are really horrifying. It shows how cold and distant society has become with one another. Family is everything.
I agree that OP should find alternative childcare because her mother is struggling.
But when having a child, people should be able to turn to their parents for help first. Most older ladies I know in the UK don’t help enough because they don’t want even when they can. One does not stop being a parent and looking after their children only because they are adults. Don’t “expect” your adult children to look after you when old and complain if they put you in a care home if you have turned your back to them when they needed you as adults. I think families in this society have lost the true meaning of being a family. I come from a country where people wouldn’t have kids if their oldish parents wouldn’t look after the kids. It’s so nice to see ladies in their 50s/60s walk around with prams in the day!!
So no, I don’t think you are being totally unreasonable for “expecting “ help from the person who is supposed to love you the most. If it doesn’t work then it is a different story.

Couldn't disagree more. I will never commit to regular childcare. Even now I know I'm not fit to do it, riddled with osteoarthritis, a chronic severe bowel condition etc etc.

I don't want to do it either and I don't care if that makes me selfish. I would babysit/cover emergencies depending on how my health is at the time. I love my children more than anything and have devoted a large part of my life to bringing them up and supporting them (currently 27 years and counting). I've always worked FT or studied. Retirement is going to be my time to be free and please myself for the first time in my life.

There's plenty of ways of continuing to be a loving and supportive parent that don't involve childcare!

My kids know this. I don't want them to care for me either. They can put me in a home if necessary. I don't have any expectations of them in that regard. In fact, I'd hate it.

Americano75 · 20/08/2024 17:40

Some delightful op bashing here, anyone would think she'd punched her mum full in the face going by some of the responses. Jesus.

Justonemoretime8910 · 20/08/2024 17:44

tribalmango · 20/08/2024 13:34

YABU.

  1. for expecting it in the first place and
  2. for being miffed about her clearly finding your toddler challenging rather than acting upon your Mum's words/action sooner.

Sorry but I agree with this

Justonemoretime8910 · 20/08/2024 17:46

I think mum sent the barrage of texts because you've failed to listen to her.

lolly792 · 20/08/2024 17:47

Maybe the OPs mum felt pressure to offer (judging by some of the posts here, there are a lot of people who do seem to see family help as an entitlement!)

Whether she freely offered or felt pressured the fact is, she's finding it too much and it's only fair to her and the child to make professional arrangements.

It's not a measure of how much the grandma loves the child - unless you belong to the school of thought which measures love and care by getting free childcare!

It sounds like she adores her grandchild but is simply not up to doing solo care for a toddler.

Garlicnaan · 20/08/2024 17:47

You weren't BU to expect that initially by the sounds of it but for whatever reason she's clearly not enjoying it. The reality is different to the fantasy. And things need to change.

You both now need to adjust your expectations according to reality.

My parents were able to look after GC (not mine) fine in their late 60s but by early-mid 70s it was too much. We have never really had any help from GC. You get by.

People on here are vile though. That's AIBU unfortunately. Ignore it.

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 17:47

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 17:15

A lot of interest in my lunches with my mum.

We have a close relationship and even before having my child, we did this.

She often picks stuff up for lunch, or I do. When she comes over, I often prepare the lunch and she plays with my daughter.

It is not because she’s lonely, or doesn’t have a partner (my dad) but because we get on well.

That’s why it’s upsetting that she behaves like this after having my daughter.

For those of you who haven’t read my updates, my mum insisted on helping me one morning a week (2 hours).

Never mind the comments about lunches - I'd have enjoyed that too. My mum was too far away but I phoned her several times a day. (I'm sure I probably drove her mad sometimes!!!)

If you're as close as you clearly are, why can't you just talk to her? Maybe she wants to do it but isn't willing to admit that the reality is that she's not able to do it? Getting old sucks. The alternative's even more shit though.

Geppili · 20/08/2024 17:47

Just pay for professional childcare.

Newposter180 · 20/08/2024 17:52

Zanatdy · 20/08/2024 17:28

Surely when you’re in your 70’s you shouldn’t be held accountable to something you agreed to hypothetically. Despite OP saying her mum is active, looking after a toddler isn’t easy and isn’t the same as going to work or lunch with friends. Even if she just doesn’t want to do it anymore that should be fine. Half a morning childcare shouldn’t break the bank

Obviously anyone is entitled to change their mind (although note that the mother in this instance has actually insisted on doing the care and then being resentful - she has not communicated a change of heart.

However, your point about someone in their 70s not being accountable is absolutely bizarre IMO - at what age should we start disregarding everything a person says on the assumption that it can’t be replied upon?

HansHolbein · 20/08/2024 17:53

You poor woman coming on here reading all these disgusting comments.

I understand what you’re saying and I get it. Please hide this thread and don’t come back to it.

Wishing you all the best.

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 18:00

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Have you read my follow up posts that explain that she insisted on looking after my daughter?

Why don’t I sound like a nice person?

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SnappyPoster · 20/08/2024 18:01

Your mum is not getting older, she is old. She’s 75.

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