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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To expect my mum to look after her only grandchild on her own for 2 hours a week?

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Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 13:20

My mother is 75. She is relatively fit and healthy and leads an active lifestyle.

I am 35 and have one child. She will be an only child for various reasons, including health reasons (I have a heart condition and also had bad PPD).

My child is 1. She is the only child in the entire family as both my brother and my DH’s sister aren’t going to have children.

I work freelance. One morning we have outside help with my child, one morning MIL comes down to help, and one morning my mum helps.

My mum also sees my daughter everyday for an hour or so - she comes to have lunch with me in my house on most days.

Whenever she has my daughter for the morning I can guarantee she will be difficult with me when I pick her up. She is tetchy, snappy and talks about how difficult it was, how tired she is and she is almost resentful at me. She adores my daughter, and I appreciate that she is getting older, but 2 hours isn’t that long considering it’s only once a week.

Each time I go and pick my daughter up, I make a big effort to be chirpy and in a good mood. Today, despite very little sleep for 4 nights, I tried my hardest to not put a foot wrong. Yet still I was met with complaints. I suggested I had lunch alone, to give her a break from my daughter as I could see she was in a bad mood and I wanted to avoid a big argument.

It didn’t work and she became even more agitated and then sent me a barrage of 20 messages about how she wouldn’t look after my daughter again and how disrespectful I was etc etc.

I don’t know what to do. AIBU? Should I send my daughter to nursery instead for the morning my mum has her? I can’t stand the feeling of resentment much longer. When I try to talk to her, she just snaps and denies being in the wrong.

I would appreciate your advice.

OP posts:
IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 20/08/2024 16:58

You shouldn't expect anyone to do anything, especially if they are 75.

75 is old. 2 year olds are hard work. Respect what your DM is telling you.

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 16:59

housethatbuiltme · 20/08/2024 15:36

Yes... PP mam walked 10 miles at 80 so everyone just chooses to be less able.

My mam was dead before 55, with paralysis and after 4 cancer battles that left her bed bound after a decade in a wheelchair.

If only she had 'walked more' she would clearly be here and fit as a fiddle... disability is clearly self inflicted from slowing down too much don't we know?

I hear you. It's hardly a choice is it. So many ridiculous comments on this thread!

It's hard to lose your mum so young x

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 16:59

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 20/08/2024 16:58

You shouldn't expect anyone to do anything, especially if they are 75.

75 is old. 2 year olds are hard work. Respect what your DM is telling you.

That's not what she said. Read all her posts.

NoahsTortoise · 20/08/2024 17:00

I am actually shocked that people are telling OP to 'respect what your mum is saying' when all she's doing is being horrible?

She has every right to stop the childcare arrangement whenever she chooses, however she has insisted on having OP's child and then continually made an issue of it.

In my eyes, grandmother is in the wrong here. She should be speaking to OP, telling her it's too much, apologising on insisting on this arrangement in the first place seeing that its dissolution has now left OP in the lurch and trying to find new childcare, and - if she wanted to be generous - giving OP a couple of weeks to find an alternative.

I can't see how OP is in the wrong? She's done what her mother wanted and insisted on, and got nothing but grief for it.

mathanxiety · 20/08/2024 17:00

Rosscameasdoody · 20/08/2024 16:15

The thread title is what is colouring most peoples’ judgment. I’m not far off OP’s DM’s mums’ age and if the child was difficult and tiring I would absolutely say something and not expect to be judged for it.

But this woman isn't saying it.

Instead, she's snapping at the OP and sending multiple angry texts. The OP is in the position of playing "Guess What's Wrong".

KateDelRick · 20/08/2024 17:02

Yabu. Just take pps advice, get paid childcare.
I'm not having a go, it's obviously not working.

LookItsMeAgain · 20/08/2024 17:03

I don't think you're being unreasonable in thinking that an able bodied woman who is in control of her faculties should be able to look after a waddler for a couple of hours. That said, your mum is clearly finding it far too much for her so she is also not being unreasonable to be tetchy and cross after the time.

I would try to find a suitable nursery for your DD and revert back to your mum being Granny and only available for short visits or activities where she isn't the sole carer of your daughter.

I would also make a mental note that if, after I made that adjustment, my mother was still tetchy and cross, that I would significantly reduce the visits to her as it wouldn't be good for my mental health after a day at work.

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 17:03

HidingHereForTomorrow · 20/08/2024 15:52

Don’t you think that is awful though?

Why is it "awful"? The woman is 75, and it's too much. She didn't know it would be too much until she tried it. It's not "awful" at all!!

LittleBirdd · 20/08/2024 17:03

You'd have got totally different responses if your title said:

To be hurt that my mum insists on looking after her grandchild for 2 hours a week but then holds it against me

And if your post mentioned from the get go that your Mum offers this but then is resentful. Literally 98% of posters would have agreed with you. But people reading the title and the first post it does sound very entitled.

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 17:07

People can read "all the posts"? I see this a lot and wonder if posters can't see all the posts?

It seems like a lot of posters don't see or read the ops posts? It could be that they don't hence the repeated replies when the Op has already explained her position. It must be very frustrating for the Op and not just on this thread.

LittleBirdd · 20/08/2024 17:09

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 17:07

People can read "all the posts"? I see this a lot and wonder if posters can't see all the posts?

It seems like a lot of posters don't see or read the ops posts? It could be that they don't hence the repeated replies when the Op has already explained her position. It must be very frustrating for the Op and not just on this thread.

Edited

Problem is a lot of people come on and see a post and respond to the initial opening post rather than reading all the updates first.

EsmeSusanOgg · 20/08/2024 17:11

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 14:17

Both my father and my DH work full-time. My brother lives 5 hours away.

The MIL is 73! She comes down on the train and does 2-3 hours.

My mother insists on helping out, which I appreciate. I’ve told her I will happily send my daughter to nursery one morning a week. She insists she is ok to look after her.

I am not expecting or demanding help. She offers. But then is resentful.

A lot of these posts chiding me are from older people. Haven’t you learned that the world is not black and white?!

Lots of posters do not seem to understand that this happens. A parent/ IL will offer to help. Then be upset about helping, but when you offer to find alternative childcare be angry/ upset about it.

It's not that you are being unreasonable, or she is. It is that it does not work at the moment.

LookItsMeAgain · 20/08/2024 17:12

I also think that if your mother offered this and also by way of her offering suggested you move home to be closer to her, she really could be doing more to look after her grandchild but as someone else up thread suggested, the offer is one thing, the cold reality of it all is something else entirely.

I would have a conversation with her and tell her that you're looking to find a nursery for DD and it will start out as 1 day (the day that your mother has her) but you will be looking to increase that over time to 3/4/5 days a week as DD gets older so that it will prepare her for when she starts primary school.

Last thing I'll say is if your mother suggested that you move closer to where she lives, could that have been done with an ulterior motive for her as she is getting older? That you might be the one looking after her (in time)???

LaDamaDeElche · 20/08/2024 17:14

OP, you may not have meant to come across that way, but even your title came across as entitled. Perhaps using words like "expect" is making you come across in a way you don't mean to. I'm certainly not of the normal MN thinking that no grandparents should help with anything ever and to think that they should is entitled, I actually think family helping out is normal and live in a country where it is very much the norm. However, something isn't working here and it's probably best if you do make alternative arrangements. It's nice to not have to pay for childcare and to rely on family for it, but if it's going to cause resentment or problems between you and your mum, it isn't worth it.

75 doesn't mean an old person with a stick, no, but it is a stage in life where things can become a bit much, even if you want to do them. My mum is in her early 60's, very fit, looks 10 years younger, but I have noticed a change in her even at that age. She's more anxious and doesn't deal with stress as well. This is a woman who was working in an extremely demanding corporate job. People do change as they get older and your mum isn't the same person as she was 20 or even 10 years ago.

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 17:15

A lot of interest in my lunches with my mum.

We have a close relationship and even before having my child, we did this.

She often picks stuff up for lunch, or I do. When she comes over, I often prepare the lunch and she plays with my daughter.

It is not because she’s lonely, or doesn’t have a partner (my dad) but because we get on well.

That’s why it’s upsetting that she behaves like this after having my daughter.

For those of you who haven’t read my updates, my mum insisted on helping me one morning a week (2 hours).

OP posts:
ClickHereNow · 20/08/2024 17:16

Ultimately OP’s mum needs to use her words and communicate clearly and politely that she has found it too difficult. She loves her grandchild but cannot commit to doing a regular babysitting slot every week. All she has to do is communicate clearly instead of being irritable and passive aggressive.

The OP can then move on, without resentment and find an alternative solution.

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 17:18

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 17:15

A lot of interest in my lunches with my mum.

We have a close relationship and even before having my child, we did this.

She often picks stuff up for lunch, or I do. When she comes over, I often prepare the lunch and she plays with my daughter.

It is not because she’s lonely, or doesn’t have a partner (my dad) but because we get on well.

That’s why it’s upsetting that she behaves like this after having my daughter.

For those of you who haven’t read my updates, my mum insisted on helping me one morning a week (2 hours).

Op. You seem very close and have great contact. Have you asked why she is so resentful about looking after your child for 2 hours?

SemperIdem · 20/08/2024 17:19

That would really get on my nerves, that she’d insisted on having the time with her grandchild but is then unpleasant towards you regarding it.

I’d veto it personally, life is too short for unnecessary battles like that. Whatever your mothers problem is, it can remain her own, not yours.

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 17:19

LostGardens · 20/08/2024 16:05

Well said. The comments here bear no relation to reality.

In real life most people would absolutely consider an able grandparent who wouldn’t do two hours a WEEK of childcare without making a song and dance about it a bit of a dick.

OP hasn’t even implied she feels negative towards her mother about this so she’s a bigger woman than most would be. She seems quite willing to change the arrangement if needed; she’s just wondering if that’s the right thing to do.

My parents were able grandparents when my children were very little. They lived too far from us for it to be an option, but I would never have expected them to mind my children. They exhausted them when we spent Saturday afternoons with them!

MumApril1990 · 20/08/2024 17:20

My Mum has never looked after my child. MIL looked after him for 10 minutes once and said she couldn’t cope so never again.

We take him to nursery and have never had any time away apart from that.

ClickHereNow · 20/08/2024 17:20

There are different meanings of ‘expect’.

A demand: I expect you kids to lay the table before dinner.
An assumption: I expect it will rain tomorrow.

Perhaps given that the grandmother insisted on babysitting, the OP is right to expect/assume the weekly childcare will
happen, (‘expect’ used as in the second example).

ClickHereNow · 20/08/2024 17:20

MumApril1990 · 20/08/2024 17:20

My Mum has never looked after my child. MIL looked after him for 10 minutes once and said she couldn’t cope so never again.

We take him to nursery and have never had any time away apart from that.

So? How is that relevant here?

mathanxiety · 20/08/2024 17:22

Aliciainwunderland · 20/08/2024 16:41

I recently found out first hand that posters on Mumsnet are insane! Why come on to someone’s post just to be insane, judgemental and unhelpful! It’s so weird! I’m sorry you have had to deal with this.

had my first at 37 so also have older parents and have found the past couple of years from age 75 to be a big change in my parents. They are still fit and healthy but struggle more with remembering and just general being around my young dc’s and their chaos. My brother lives farther away and so doesn’t see my parents as much and has noticed it in a way that I don’t as I see my parents weekly. Is their anything going on health wise perhaps?

Agree with all of this.

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 17:23

The op stated that her mum is willing to look after her child but is complaining and resentful when op picks up her child.

Fitness and age are completely irrelevant.

Newposter180 · 20/08/2024 17:24

Boomer55 · 20/08/2024 16:53

Unless she agreed to it in advance, ,she’s not obligated to be a childminder.🤷‍♀️

At age 75, she’s probably feeling past all of it with childminding.

She did agree to it in advance - and encouraged the OP to move house near her so that she could help!!