To suggest a male curfew one night a week

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when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

How would my son get to work?

I'm a woman, I have been attacked twice in random violent attacks while walking the home alone BOTH times where by other WOMEN.

When I have been randomly insulted in the street or threatened on nights out it has always been by women too.

I have no real fear of men when out walking.

Yes some men are asshole (my old neighbor was a particularly nasty one but it was very easy to get a no contact order) but overall I have found them far less likely to aggressively attack out of absoloutly nowhere than women are (especially when you introduce group mentality and/or alcohol).

It's obvious to me that the OP was suggesting a thought experiment. Not something that could be done in reality but a question get us to think differently about what we accept as "normal".

With that in mind, what is really interesting is seeing how the idea that men might be inconvenienced by having to stay home because of the actions of (other) men has triggered cries of "ridiculous tripe" , "it's not fair", "punishing the innocent", and most interestingly "what about their jobs?".

Because every night, for hundreds, thousands of years, all over the world, women, not all women, not all of the time, but plenty of women, plenty of the time are already restricted by the need to avoid being alone in some public places at night, are not doing things they'd like to do or not applying for certain jobs because they do not feel safe travelling to and from them, because of the actions of these (other) men. And that is just ... "normal". Apparently no one can do anything about it because that might restrict innocent men. So hey-ho, what you can you do, and the women continue to stay at home or stick to the safe spaces.

Seems it's only "ridiculous", "unfair", "punishing the innocent" when it's suggested that men might be limited by (other) men.

unfortunately, it is not all mindset if you get dragged into the bushes and raped at 1am

We might want to rethink women only carriages on trains....

Are you just going to ignore the fact that by doing this you’d likely see a rise is male violence OP?

Rather than ask us what’s the alternative from
your unrealistic and frankly ridiculous OP, what alternative to you suggest?

This is not only unrealistic, it’s also deadly to a working society.

And seeing as most violence happens within the home, I'm not sure what this would achieve.

It's obvious to me that the OP was suggesting a thought experiment. Not something that could be done in reality but a question get us to think differently about what we accept as "normal".

I can only imagine you haven't read her subsequent posts then?

It is the school holidays...🙄

Personally I would prefer to see deterrents in the form of much harsher penalties, and perpetrators dealt with as speedily as we've seen the rioters dispatched the last week or so.
I'd like to see more women only events for those who wanted them and subsidies for women who wanted to start women focused business, like female only taxi firms for example. Women only train carriages may be an option on the late night services.
I'd also like to see an end to the NAMALTing and whataboutery. It just distracts us, when we should just be able to acknowledge the problem of bad men, and have a discussion about what might be done about them, without people trying to hide them behind good men and violent women.

This sounds lovely but I don’t they would really care about a woman or girl’s mindset.

Ridiculous. Pure misandry.

can the op be thrown in jail for creating this thread?

serious question.

I think people are missing the point of the idea. It's not workable, no. Of course not. But what was the suggestion when, for example, the Yorkshire Ripper was active? Women should stay home, or not go out alone. But women being out wasn't the problem, was it? It was one of the men - who were swanning around unimpeded - doing the murdering. If the rule had been "no men on the streets after dark" - well, any man out and about would be under suspicion.

All women are expected to change their behaviour to avoid being harmed by (some) men. How would it be if instead, all men were expected to change their behaviour to avoid women being harmed by (some) men? * *

It's not a workable idea, more a thought experiment. It's like asking "what would happen if men experienced periods / the pain of childbirth / menopause?"

Interesting though....
Considering what's going on in this country, not that outrageous.

This is a good point
It would open up victim blaming massively
"Well you knew it was a day men were allowed out. You should only go out on Thursdays if you want to be safe"

Well said. I don’t know why so much vitriol is being directed at the OP

All women are expected to change their behaviour to avoid being harmed by (some) men. How would it be if instead, all men were expected to change their behaviour to avoid women being harmed by (some) men?

perfectly put 🙌🏼

Why can’t blaming be stopped? Surely easier teams quicker than changing a mindset of society over generations

Until you need your roads fixing, or your house catches on fire or you need to call the police or you need to access any of the other services that are overwhelmingly staffed by men

It is only what the majority tell women to do to stay safe yet everyone who says it to women get their knickers in a twist when you reverse it. Shows what hypocrites they are.

Ridiculous post. I live in central London and do not walk around in fear of men. I was however pushed into the road last week by a mentally unstable woman - she did scare me.

Since you're ignoring the fact that statistically violence against women goes up when men stay at home, consider this:

If a man is determined to go out and rape a stranger, don't you think they're more likely to want to take advantage of a night when the streets are quieter, women are lulled into a false sense of security, and they know there's less police and security presence?

I just don't think that in the absence of a clever idea one should propose a stupid idea.