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To suggest a male curfew one night a week

786 replies

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

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DinnaeFashYersel · 19/08/2024 18:24

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

x2boys · 19/08/2024 18:24

You might find you are shooting yourself in the foot here, my dh is at work tonight until 11pm he hates late shifts so he would happily stay home ,but that means more women would haven't work them ,more women would also have to do the less desirable shifts in hospitals,police ,bus drivers etc etc ,in fact I rarely see female bus drivers and taxi drivers, so as you are wanting all men to be curfewed ,that would mean less bus services and taxis ti take women where they want to go.

bigageap · 19/08/2024 18:24

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 19/08/2024 18:20

It's clearly hypothetical but yes, I think it would be fantastic.

As for not men not being able to work well there's an added bonus - more jobs for the girls. The services would have to employ more of us to cover " Female Thursday" ( or whichever).

Be really interesting to see what happens with the new found freedom. More clubs, sports etc. Dress how you want in bars and restaurants.

All the " but my son/ husband is lovely" women can look forward to said men doing all the childcare.

But women can work nights already. There isn’t a shortage of night work. I worked nights for 12 years out alone on sites all around. What a ridiculous thing to say. Mist women don’t want to work nights!

Growsomeballswoman · 19/08/2024 18:25

No male barstaff, taxi drivers, uber drivers, train drivers. These are predominantly male roles. If women go out alone, where are they going to go? Sounds great fun

JLou08 · 19/08/2024 18:25

Plzdontaskmyname · 19/08/2024 18:02

Those who think this suggestion is punishing the innocent for the actions of the guilty - what do you think about the parallel suggestions from the other side that if women don't want to be attacked, we should restrict our movements? What about those long lists of rape prevention tips like "don't wear your hair in a ponytail because it's easy for an assailant to grab" that go around the Internet once in a while? Are those punishing the innocent (women) for the actions of the guilty? Or is it ok that women are effectively under curfew in many areas?

Yes they are punishing the innocent, they are victim blaming and it is ridiculous advice. Like having your hair loose could really prevent a man from attacking you, it's just as stupid as the curfew suggestion.

JabbaTheBeachHut · 19/08/2024 18:25

twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:17

We kept curfew for Covid. Cant we do it for women?

What do you suggest to tackle ongoing male violence?

What do you suggest to tackle ongoing male violence?

Considering how much domestic violence rose during lockdown, I'd suggest not banning men from the streets for one night a week...

Simonjt · 19/08/2024 18:25

So men who are firefighters, police officers, paramedics, nurses, doctors, surgeons, lorry drivers, taxi drivers, warehouse workers, factory works etc can no longer work nights. Will there be enough women in these industries to drop day shifts and work nights instead?

Ill men can’t access healthcare, ill children can only go to A&E if their mum isn’t at work, children without a mum wouldn’t be able to access healthcare at all.

In all likelihood it would something make Tates fanatics even worse.

TooBored1 · 19/08/2024 18:26

The huge spike in DV would outweigh any gains. Plus, imagine the victim shaming if you were attacked whilst out on a non-male curfew day.

x2boys · 19/08/2024 18:26

twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:17

We kept curfew for Covid. Cant we do it for women?

What do you suggest to tackle ongoing male violence?

Not everyone did stay at home during covid though there were loads of people breaking the " rules".

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 18:26

Not a realistic idea OP but OMG how wonderful it would be. I’d go for a long walk in the countryside by myself. That would be bliss not to be scared of what could happen

So dreamy. The other week in a strange city I found myself on a beautiful deserted path by a river. I walked down it and spent about 20 seconds thinking about how bucolic it was and how happy I was to have found it.

And then the niggle of fear reared its head. That there was no way off of the path if a man was to approach me. Then I just felt on edge and sad I couldn’t enjoy it.

I knew the chance of something happening was very slim. And indeed nothing did happen. But I was checking behind and in front of me repeatedly and clutching my phone at all times.

twilightermummy · 19/08/2024 18:27

I'd love this and I've heard it discussed in the media for quite some time, so it's not just some mad idea being touted by the op.

It isn't enforceable though unfortunately and, like somebody else said, I'd be afraid that the men with bad intent would feel like a fox in a hen house.

I'd suggest the Freedom programme to be rolled out in schools for teenage girls from the age of 14 and re-enforced ever year. The boys could also have a similar project to teach them healthy relationships and behaviours towards women. I don't know how the porn train can stop for teens and men in general. I guess that horse has already bolted.

Women being murdered cannot be ignored any longer.

notanotheronenow · 19/08/2024 18:27

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:52

So what do we do? Just live with it?

Have you not heard the saying "face your fears"? I walk around the city where I live alone at 1am and think nothing of it. It's all mindset. The more you do something the less scary it becomes.

JabbaTheBeachHut · 19/08/2024 18:27

twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:19

@JabbaTheBeachHut

Give me your suggestions then? How do we reduce or end male violence?

I don't know, this is not my line of work, hence the reason I wouldn't start a thread making silly suggestions.

What I do know is (and I'm surprised you don't) is that domestic violence rocketed during lockdown.

How do you feel about that OP?

ramsayboltonshounds · 19/08/2024 18:27

No, thanks. I'd rather not punish the majority for the actions of a few.

DoIWantTo · 19/08/2024 18:27

And watch how quickly the rights of women are taken away again in the interest and safety of society. Idiotic to even suggest it.

saltycashew · 19/08/2024 18:28

I still can't believe OP has suggested such a ridiculous idea.

Think about it from a business point of view.
No men in the pubs or restaurants, no men allowed to take their dogs for a walk or go out to enjoy a football match. No men in clubs, shows or concerts, or keeping the streets tidy in the middle of the night to collect the rubbish. No date nights for women. Men can't celebrate their birthdays in the evening if it falls on a curfew night.

This is just so stupid it's comical. And then watch how women would be up in arms because a man would want to try and introduce a night where all women had to have a curfew as not to entice men to rape, murder or abuse them because - you know, that's what they all do at night. They'd say they have women's best interest in mind to keep us safe.....

That wouldn't go down very well now would it 😵‍💫

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 18:28

Growsomeballswoman · 19/08/2024 18:25

No male barstaff, taxi drivers, uber drivers, train drivers. These are predominantly male roles. If women go out alone, where are they going to go? Sounds great fun

Even if we had gender equality across all workforces - which obviously we don't- it would still mean the workforce dropping by half for a night every week. It would either be carnage - emergency services stretched too thin, taxis and public transport services halved, impossible to actually have a good night out because everywhere is short-staffed. Or no women would actually get to enjoy their one night a week because they'd all have to take on second jobs.

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 19/08/2024 18:29

Quite aside from the fact that not every man is a violent rapist, how do you propose to make this work.

Close all the shops/hospitals/police stations, and well, every baby boy is going to be a man one day so nothing male is allowed out.

And if they fall ill then they’ll die anyway because there won’t enough paramedics or hospital staff because many of them are men, but the ill men will just die anyway because they’re not allowed to go to hospital on Monday nights.

Probably best for them to stay home and beat up their wives instead eh?

utterly stupid idea.

BargingOnBy · 19/08/2024 18:29

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 18:26

Not a realistic idea OP but OMG how wonderful it would be. I’d go for a long walk in the countryside by myself. That would be bliss not to be scared of what could happen

So dreamy. The other week in a strange city I found myself on a beautiful deserted path by a river. I walked down it and spent about 20 seconds thinking about how bucolic it was and how happy I was to have found it.

And then the niggle of fear reared its head. That there was no way off of the path if a man was to approach me. Then I just felt on edge and sad I couldn’t enjoy it.

I knew the chance of something happening was very slim. And indeed nothing did happen. But I was checking behind and in front of me repeatedly and clutching my phone at all times.

Edited

Yep, that is how I would feel too. It is so unfair that we have to live this way.

JessiesHuman · 19/08/2024 18:29

I really get the sentiment (having done some 'reclaim the night' marches at Uni and being a feminist). But no, this isn't right. Curtailing their rights to secure our safety may sound right - but it's not.

Edited to say - it actually doesn't sound right.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 18:29

twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:12

I'm not saying my suggestion is perfect but it's at least trying to make all women's lives better.

I started a thread recently asking if you've ever called the police and why. It was 99% for male violence in the street.

Honestly, something has to change. Women have to be made safer.

Forcing men to stay AT HOME where MOST violence happens would not help ALL women at all!

It would put those women at FAR more risk

But of course you won't listen to that

AngryLikeHades · 19/08/2024 18:29

Even if that were to become legal, how the hell would it be enforced?
Crazy idea.

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 19/08/2024 18:29

@bingobanjo exactly this!

Fedupmumofadultsons · 19/08/2024 18:29

What a goady stupid Post oh I want my daughters and myself to walk about without pesky males for a night .but you needed one of those pesky males to have your daughters 🙄 .we need to teach boys from children on the kind of behaviour we would like to see .but no matter what we do nasty men and woman are always going to be out there and a free night for us is only a massive signal to the perverts you would actually be encouraging these folk because mainly young woman would just be bait without law abiding men to protect them on said night .could your idea get anymore stupid

Amberpants · 19/08/2024 18:30

FFS what about lovely gentle men like my DH and DS