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To suggest a male curfew one night a week

786 replies

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

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twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:17

Notwhatuwanttohear · 19/08/2024 18:13

So you ban males for one night.

All the law abiding males stay indoors no male police or security guards.

All the criminals rapists pedophiles domestic abusers have free reign for one night as who is going to stop them?

We kept curfew for Covid. Cant we do it for women?

What do you suggest to tackle ongoing male violence?

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SemperIdem · 19/08/2024 18:17

This would have the same sort of problems as dog licensing. The law abiding will abide, the lawless won’t. Precisely zero problems solved.

Male on women violence is an absolutely enormous problem, op you are right that many men might support your suggestion. These men aren’t the problem though.

JLou08 · 19/08/2024 18:17

So if a single dad needs to take a child to A&E he can't, if his teen is missing or out drunk and vulnerable he can't do anything?
Women have to do all the night shifts that night? There would be quite a shortage of taxi drivers and staff at the garage. Would men be able to go out if they needed urgent treatment themselves?
There is some risk to women from men in public but the amount of attacks from unknown men in public is fairly low. No one should be living in so much fear that they don't feel safe walking the streets and want men to have a curfew so that they can feel safe. I don't have the stats and happy to be corrected with them but I suspect your more likely to be injured or killed in an RTA rather than at the hands of an unknown man in public.
If you want to do something to make women safer focus on addressing domestic abuse because it's women in these situations who are at significant risk.

Frowningprovidence · 19/08/2024 18:17

It would backfire as women out on other nights would be seen as asking for it. It would end up with 'well you did go for a walk when men were out so what can you expecr'

JabbaTheBeachHut · 19/08/2024 18:17

twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:12

I'm not saying my suggestion is perfect but it's at least trying to make all women's lives better.

I started a thread recently asking if you've ever called the police and why. It was 99% for male violence in the street.

Honestly, something has to change. Women have to be made safer.

I'm not saying my suggestion is perfect

Good because 'batshit', 'ridiculous', 'unworkable', 'stupid' would be far better words 🤣

Feelingleftoutagain · 19/08/2024 18:18

As a mother of two sons who have been bought up to value and cherish women, I find this a ridiculous idea, raising our males to value and cherish is the only way forward

ilovemoney · 19/08/2024 18:18

Its an interesting idea. I would be in favor of looking at expanding women only places and spaces and times for example Gym and swim sessions, schools, wards and a host of other things for the safety and wellbeing of women and girls.

cathcath2 · 19/08/2024 18:19

YABU, because guess who doesn't obey laws? Criminals. So all the decent men would be inside and all the low life not obeying it would be taking up huge amounts of police time and resources (I assume you'd give our emergency services permission to be out).

twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:19

@JabbaTheBeachHut

Give me your suggestions then? How do we reduce or end male violence?

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MillyMollyMandHey · 19/08/2024 18:19

Would transwomen be allowed out?

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 18:19

twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:14

I think many men would champion women having a safe evening to themselves

Until their house burns down and the fire service is working at (less than) half their workforce, or they have a heart attack but they have to wait for an all-female team of paramedics to be free to come out to them, or they witness a crime but only WPCs are allowed on the streets so good luck waiting for them to get to you. Or even, let's be real, until they want to order a pizza but Domino's has one woman on shift trying to cover the entire city.

sanogo · 19/08/2024 18:19

How will this be policed?

Growsomeballswoman · 19/08/2024 18:20

All men?. Yes how about all police, firemen, paramedics all stay home one night a week.

StoneHenge85 · 19/08/2024 18:20

If you’re afraid to go out OP you can always stay at home every night!

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 19/08/2024 18:20

It's clearly hypothetical but yes, I think it would be fantastic.

As for not men not being able to work well there's an added bonus - more jobs for the girls. The services would have to employ more of us to cover " Female Thursday" ( or whichever).

Be really interesting to see what happens with the new found freedom. More clubs, sports etc. Dress how you want in bars and restaurants.

All the " but my son/ husband is lovely" women can look forward to said men doing all the childcare.

Plzdontaskmyname · 19/08/2024 18:21

Feelingleftoutagain · 19/08/2024 18:18

As a mother of two sons who have been bought up to value and cherish women, I find this a ridiculous idea, raising our males to value and cherish is the only way forward

Do you believe other women have intended to raise rapists? If so why would any woman do that? Or is it possible that some men were raised by good mothers and taught to value and cherish women, and have turned out bad anyway?

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 18:21

twojumps · 19/08/2024 18:17

We kept curfew for Covid. Cant we do it for women?

What do you suggest to tackle ongoing male violence?

It worked for covid. It wouldn't work to reduce male violence because once again the issue you're ignoring, most male violence happens at home. If anything you're putting women at greater risk by keeping their partners at home, a bit like how domestic violence skyrockets when the football's on.

5128gap · 19/08/2024 18:21

But no, OP. Back to the drawing board. It's a terrible idea. In lockdown DVAWG went through the roof. I'd rather run the risk of encountering the dangerous ones in public where there's safety in numbers and we can take some precautions than think of them locked up with some vulnerable woman with no defence.

noworklifebalance · 19/08/2024 18:22

I agree OP’s suggestion is unworkable but it is an interesting starting point.

For those that are still harping about their precious sons - it’s not about them, it’s about the women and girls to have freedom.

Those that happily walk around fearless - that’s great, doesn’t mean the risk is not there just because you are able to not acknowledge it.

CautiousLurker · 19/08/2024 18:22

Lol, that’s just a distorted form of sharia law, isn’t it? If it were put in place, then men could ask for a one night curfew for woman (or more in some boroughs, after all, women get a night out once a week, why would they need more), which opens the door for curfews on certain days for muslims, jews, blacks…

So, no. What we need is a society structured around teaching men/boys how to behave around women, around morally requiring men to police their mates/sons/dads/male employees and colleagues, when their behaviour is appalling, or empowering women to feel they can push back, to providing a police service and legal system that ensures male perpetrators are actually found guilty and imprisoned.

Redmat · 19/08/2024 18:23

That would take alot of organing , no men bus ,train or taxi drivers. No male paramedics or waiters or well just about anything. Women will have to work to cover them so not many will be out enjoying life.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 18:23

Deipara · 19/08/2024 18:00

No, not all men are part of the problem. My husband has stepped in when a woman was being attacked by her husband. Most men are not a danger to women and I'm sure most would help a woman in need.

Think of those two men who risked their lives in Southport

Or the security guard in London

There are plenty of men who will rush to help and protect those being harmed and who are disgusted by male behaviour

BargingOnBy · 19/08/2024 18:23

SallyWD · 19/08/2024 18:17

I do this all the time anyway. Not all of us live in fear. I'm sorry if you do.

I do massively restrict my life to minimise the risk of being attacked by a man. If I walked in the countryside on my own and got attacked then I would think it was my own fault for putting myself in a vulnerable position. That doesn’t mean that I think other women are to blame if they are attacked so not logical really.

TonTonMacoute · 19/08/2024 18:24

PearlClutzsche · 19/08/2024 17:48

It’s a really stupid idea.

This, grow up OP.

There is a serious problem which needs properly thought out grown up solutions, not idealistic teenage claptrap.

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