To suggest a male curfew one night a week

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when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

Well exactly they are not going to think I'll just have to suppress my Urge to violently attack and rape a women until tomorrow

What percentage of that 80 % of male crime is committed against women and what percentage is committed against men?

Do you have the numbers on sexual violence?

Exactly I'd feel so unsafe without men on the streets because their the ones who usually step in and protect women when needed. If their was a curfew all the good ones would follow it and all the criminals wouldn't

It wouldn't reduce it. It would increase it. Because the violent men would be even angrier, and much more likely want to 'punish' women for this curfew. Then they'll have six days a week to go out and take out their anger on their targets.

Seriously, I used to think that mumsnetters were generally relatively intelligent and professional people. But there's previous little thought or logic involved in many responses on this thread.

This wouldn’t end, or even reduce, male violence. Violent men aren’t prevented from abusing their victims by lack of opportunities to find women on the street. And think of all those poor women trapped at home with an abusive partner who is prevented from going out by a curfew and only has her to vent his rage on.

And then think of the way this would be twisted. A curfew wouldn’t do anything to resolve things like victim blaming, so if a woman was assaulted on a non-curfew night how many people would say ‘what was she doing out anyway? She should have waited for curfew to go for a walk at 10pm’. How many women would start to limit their own activities on non-curfew nights for fear of being blamed for something happening while they were out with men around?

The real solution is much harder, broader and deeper. It’s a start that Labour have announced that misogyny is going to be treated as a form of extremism going forward; we need to tackle the insidious influence of people like Andrew Tate. We need comprehensive education in schools on the VAWAG epidemic and how boys and men can prevent it. We need police reform so that survivors are believed and conviction rates improved.

@Differentstarts we’re not taking about violent crime, which is a myriad of things. We’re talking specifically VAWG.

I am SO glad that majority on this thread think it's a stupid idea

But where has the OP gone???

While I appreciate the sentiment of the idea and the utter irrefutable need for change, I'm not sure this would have the desired effect of making men think. I think, if anything, it could add fuel to the fire of incels and misogynists.

I had this conversation with someone DH's other day. My preference would be for female only towns housing estates where only women and children could live. Totally impractical as how would you ever enforce it, but it would be nice. Totally sick of males dominating space and the amount of noise they make.

It's going to be a punishment for everyone ,with not enough Dr,s Nurses ,police ,Bus/Taxi drivers because hmen have to stay at home.

Yes I agree, humbly. I worry each time my "girls" go out, because of men. I'm sorry. I know it's a few but it is real

To write her report to the daily mail I would imagine it probably has to be in by midnight

And at what age would women have to chuck their sons out

Most VAWG is committed by someone known to them (usually a current or former partner), if this curfew you propose came into force then we’d be trapping the most vulnerable women at home with the most dangerous men.

Also, if someone is fucked enough in the head to rape and murder, they’re not going to respect a curfew, are they?

If you’d said we should have far harsher punishments for violent and abusive men, and more safe spaces for women, I’d agree with you, but a curfew is a ridiculous solution to the real problem.

I'm not your personal Google you have a phone in your hand to

From Center For Action on Rape and Abuse

98% of adults prosecuted for sexual offences are men (Office for National Statistics)

Listen, this is a hypothetical discussion, it's never going to happen ever. So there's no point answering another hypothetical challenge. Chill.

Done it. It's 98%.

Aye, let's cancel the idea. Like it was going to happen anyway.

This. Male violence (against women, against children, and against other men) is an epidemic. But a curfew is a ridiculous idea for so many reasons already mentioned on this thread. A voluntary curfew made by men in support of women would be far more impactful. We need to get the majority of good men to work with us, not impose something that sows further division.

Its actually more feasible than the OP's idea, gated communities are a thing.

But at what age would you kick out the boys?

If this were to come into law, it would make absolutely no difference. If a man is going to obey the laws about not harassing or assualting women, I doubt he would obey a law about sticking to a curfew.

?? Sorry I don't understand. Is female not in the dictionary any longer?

But yes, you think you're being funny. You're not, staying home every night is in fact the alternative for many women who just don't feel safe walking on their own, or travelling by train, or even in mini-cabs. That is reality for some of us. It has been for me since I was in my teens (I'm old enought to be invisible now, but it was an unpleasant fact of life for me for about 25 years). It's really not funny to be frightened of walking home on your own from a station or a city centre late at night when there are no taxis or lifts available. A woman's quality of life is affected and restricted because of men being on the streets.

actually we're talking about male curfews to protect women, so yes what that poster said about violence against men is relevant, as is the fact that violence is less likely to be called out when it's against men

several posters have in fact tried to explain to you that it would punitive to women to curfew men , but also what that poster is alluding to is the fact that a curfew would reduce violence against men

so basically you're suggesting we punish DV victims while reducing violence against men, which doesn't really have any relation to reducing VAWG