To suggest a male curfew one night a week

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when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

So the men that go out to rape and pray on vulnerable women are going to be deterred by a fucking curfew?

So what will be the punishment for a man being out after curfew? Will it be more than the sentence for rape or murder?

For the millions of men who walk the streets who are not a risk to women this is offensive and discriminatory, but for the few that are a risk will not give two hoots about a curfew.

In all honesty if there was a curfew for men one day a week where women could wander around without any worries this would be the day that there are more attacks on women, both in their own homes and also out on the streets it would be akin to shooting fish in a barrel.

It’s due to all of those violent women roaming the streets at night.

No its an ridiculous idea, I have an partner, brothers and other male family members who would not hurt an fly not to mention when i used to go night clubbing, I sew plenty of fights between women and last year my mate had an bottle smashed over her head by an female who was an stranger to her so what you want the whole country to get an curfew and what about all our Emergency workers and night staff, I dont think you have thought this through.

women would attack more women. That is what happens.

Always going to be people who ignore it. And it gives people a false sense of security. If some people would not wear masks for covid, I doubt they would stay in .

Men are in charge. They're over represented in government, the judiciary, the police, at the highest levels of pretty much every single thing you can name, in every country in the world. They have power. Lots and lots of it. If they wanted to control this allegedly tiny minority that's hurting women, they could.

So, whilst all the men have to be inside at night, who will be patrolling the streets checking they aren’t out?

When my DD was in sixth form they had a visit from the police warning girls that the number of broken glass/broken bottle attacks by women on other women were very high and they were shown photos of young women who needed plastic surgery to repair the damage. This was happening in the local nightclubs. They were advised to avoid women who were being aggressive/picking fights.

mugged by a woman ? Or a man?
But I hope he has recovered now.

Those posters who are saying the OP’s idea is unkind to men, unworkable, doesn’t take account of domestic violence at home, etc etc are ignoring the fact that woman CANNOT walk alone safely in the same way that men can.

Why is DV being dismissed? It's one of the biggest risks for women when it comes to VAWG. Often higher risk than stranger attack.

(It's also true that male violence against men is important to tackle too. I'm not a man, and I actually know women who've been victims of VAWG both from strangers and DV, but I still think all violence needs to be tackled - in sensible and effective ways).

This thread highlights one of the reasons why DV is such a big problem. Too many subconscious victim blaming attitudes that "those women aren't like me" and "DV isn't as serious" as stranger attack.

Ideas like curfews for all men, including non violent innocent men, don't help (and would probably make things worse due to increasing resentment and division, as well as increase DV incidents).

What would help is tackling root causes of increased breakdown in society and increased violent crime. That requires tackling poverty and the lack of well-funded (and good) public services.

Yep, and that went well didn’t it ? All dictatorships start with a curfew on one section or other, depending on who they see as the perpetrators of the evil blighting society - then more and more extreme punishment is introduced for perceived transgressions of the many rules and regulations which will inevitably follow the introduction of the curfew. You only have to look at some of the posts following the OP’s to know with certainty that this will happen.

What comes next is a campaign to paint the perpetrators of these evils as all out of the same mould, so that there is little public opposition to what’s happening. And before you know it we have concentration camps in the countryside and crematoria belching out the remains of the victims into the air. Sound far fetched ? It did during the Second World War too. Even Roosevelt didn’t believe what was happening until he saw the evidence. This thread is dreadful and should be deleted.

Men with a special government issued lanyard, and a high viz jacket with 'keyworker' on the back?

Oooh, WDIT. Well done you.

It’s akin to white people calling out racist comments by other white people - the impact is greater for the transgressor than if a black person were to do it.

It’s also not laughing along with locker room jokes, walking along the same side of the road as a lone woman. All the microaggressions as well as the overt ones

Presumably female police officers?? Along with the female prison officers staffing the male prisons by themselves. Sounds ...... ideal. 👍🏻🙄

A bit like the Jewish Kapos in the Nazi concentration camps.

Im sorry to say this but have you considered going to therapy? Because that’s just not healthy.

As others have said you’re more likely to be attacked in your own home and by someone you know.

What would help is tackling root causes of increased breakdown in society and increased violent crime. That requires tackling poverty and the lack of well-funded (and good) public services

Agree that this needs to be done but how long do we need to wait for this to happen and then take effect?

My first thought was ‘But the law breaking, violent men, won’t heed it anyway’.
My second thought was ‘But at least they’d be easier to spot’

Is anyone else old enough to remember that women were told to self curfew during the Yorkshire Ripper attacks, and the resulting Reclaim The Night marches? Might be nice for it to be men who are censored instead of women having to self curfew as a matter of course, for fear of their safety.

No one is grouping all men in the same way but 98% of all prisoners in jail for physical and sexual assaults are male. Male violence is a huge problem in every ruddy country on earth. Here in the UK rates of sexual and physical assault by men against women are rising:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/aug/14/violence-against-women-on-uk-trains-rises-by-50-in-two-years

It's really about time that decent men, men with wives and daughters and mothers, stood up for women and didn't stand back and 'I'm not one of those bad men, this is nothing to do with me.' It is. It's to do with us all. Women have been protesting and trying ti influence governments for hundreds of years. It's time men started supporting women. Though given how many women here don't support women, I'm not going to hold my breath.

I’m not a man. I used it. Because that’s what it is. If someone had posted something even half as misogynistic as this thread is misandrist it would have been taken down by now

explain really simply how this thread - the original post and subsequent discussion is misandrist? I can’t see any way it could be construed as so.

4 MILLION MEN are perpetrators of VAwG in the UK.

15% of men.

Of course that means 85% aren’t but I wouldn’t say it’s a tiny minority that engage in it.

However 85% majority should be able to stamp out VAWG from their current positions of power if they put their minds to it.

Why would your lovely sons and husbands not support staying in one night a week so women can feel safe?

That’s not suggesting they’re evil - rather the opposite really

Yes, although statistically male violence against women (and against men) is higher than female violence, there is an issue of female violence against women. Maybe less common but it still shouldn't ignored because it being less common is of no help or consolation for any victims of it.

All violence needs to be tackled - but in effective and sensible ways. That costs money but imo a safer society is worth it (and longer term it saves money because violent crime has massive financial cost on society).

Violence to women creases at times like Xmas when men are at home more . Not sure locking them in with women is the solution.

I do remember reading something that a university had a high number of sexual assaults the solution was to recommend women stay in after 6pm. A group of women suggested men stay in. This was rejected as it infringed on men's human rights

Well said.

I have a theory that if a man knows not to say something in front of his wife/daughter/mother then he knows it's inappropriate. Throwaway comments that make a woman feel uncomfortable are of course very different from sexual violence. However, the good and decent men still do it even though they know it's not on. Just because we don't witness our male relatives doing it doesn't mean they don't.

here's another thought experiment for you

would there be more resources to solve societal problems if

people kept posting pointless thought experiments on forums
people did useful things