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To suggest a male curfew one night a week

786 replies

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

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Everyoneesleistheproblem · 19/08/2024 19:49

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 18:28

Even if we had gender equality across all workforces - which obviously we don't- it would still mean the workforce dropping by half for a night every week. It would either be carnage - emergency services stretched too thin, taxis and public transport services halved, impossible to actually have a good night out because everywhere is short-staffed. Or no women would actually get to enjoy their one night a week because they'd all have to take on second jobs.

But there's only half the population out and about.

The culture if all those "male" jobs would have to change because women would be required in larger numbers. Loads of women work nights but these are minimum wage jobs. They would command a premium on Female Thursday.

The domestic violence in the home is a massive problem currently. It's debatable to understand how it would get worse on the night women only have the right to be outside.

Younger men would soon learn their needs don't top women's.

nocoolnamesleft · 19/08/2024 19:50

HelloMiss · 19/08/2024 19:24

No male paramedics out? No male workers anywhere?

What's amazing about it?

Being able to walk the streets confident in safety.

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 19:51

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 19:48

What this thread has highlighted is that there are actually a fair few men on Mumsnet.

And as somewhat of an aside, the only people I hear using the word misandry are a certain subset of society who shall not be named, but if you know, you know.

I’m not a man. I used it. Because that’s what it is. If someone had posted something even half as misogynistic as this thread is misandrist it would have been taken down by now.

Alucard55 · 19/08/2024 19:51

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:47

Shouldn't that be men's issue to solve? They're the ones doing this. They should be teaching each other how to behave properly.

Exactly this.

We know not all men are sexual predators and nobody is saying they are. But 98% of those crimes are committed by men. It is very much a male problem.

listsandbudgets · 19/08/2024 19:52

I'm much happier if I know my DD is out with a mixed group of friends.

I do not want my son tarnished eoth the "nasty" brush.

If you're that keen segregating the sexes OP then join a convent

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 19/08/2024 19:52

Didimum · 19/08/2024 19:39

How ridiculous. Who on earth would think men willing to break the law with violence would be willing to abide by the law of a curfew? It would also be against the civil liberties of honest and decent men.

Clearly some will give it a go. But they wouldn't have the patriarchy on their side. They are in the wrong just by being out. Same as someone with a gun or knife is now. Only difference is it's much easier to spot a man than a concealed weapon.

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 19:53

OoodlesofNoodles · 19/08/2024 17:42

And punish the majority for the actions of the minority?

Exactly!

noworklifebalance · 19/08/2024 19:53

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:47

Shouldn't that be men's issue to solve? They're the ones doing this. They should be teaching each other how to behave properly.

Exactly and why the fuck does anyone need teaching this?
And how long will it bloody take given that it is already freaking obvious that any form of sexual assault is wrong?

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:53

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:49

It’s all of society that should be teaching men how to behave. Males aren’t always aware of the ways in which the behave that can cause alarm and distress, therefore women need to be involved in that conversation.

Not all men are stupid though right? There are good ones out there. They should be role models and teach the others. They should hold other men accountable for their actions. They should be raising their sons to be good people.

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 19:53

lazzapazza · 19/08/2024 17:45

Disgusting idea to tarnish all men with the same brush. Give Your head a wobble op.

Yes sorry if you've had bad experiences or know horrible men but there's no need to group all men in the same way.

x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:54

nocoolnamesleft · 19/08/2024 19:50

Being able to walk the streets confident in safety.

Well.you would have to walk the streets at least in my area as there are very few female bus drivers/taxi drivers.

Samcro · 19/08/2024 19:55

HelloMiss · 19/08/2024 19:24

What will be the punishment for breaking this little curfew?

There won’t be one, as there won’t be enough police to police it as all the male officers will be at home.

noworklifebalance · 19/08/2024 19:55

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:53

Not all men are stupid though right? There are good ones out there. They should be role models and teach the others. They should hold other men accountable for their actions. They should be raising their sons to be good people.

Quite and this is where “it’s about ALL men” comes in.

Nothing to with men not being human or sweeping generalisations that PPs are getting worked up about

Jacopo · 19/08/2024 19:55

I can’t believe the naïveté of some posters saying that all we have to do is raise our sons in the right way. Near me there lived a son who was raised by a social worker who specialised in mental health care. As a teenager this boy stabbed a female stranger to death in a frenzied attack. Many years later he was released from prison on temporary licence into the care of his mother. Within days he attacked a random female who was walking her dog and bludgeoned her almost to death.
Those posters who are saying the OP’s idea is unkind to men, unworkable, doesn’t take account of domestic violence at home, etc etc are ignoring the fact that woman CANNOT walk alone safely in the same way that men can. And actually a night time curfew isn’t enough. The attacks I describe above took place in broad daylight.
As has been said many times before, women have no idea how much some men hate them.

Alucard55 · 19/08/2024 19:56

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 19:53

Yes sorry if you've had bad experiences or know horrible men but there's no need to group all men in the same way.

The point is we can't tell the decent and good men from the predators just by looking at them. Every sexual predator and murderer is someone's son/husband/father/brother.

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 19/08/2024 19:57

Crazycatlady79 · 19/08/2024 18:09

I've never gone out at night and felt afraid of the possible threat of male violence, as learnt to handle myself at a young age, but I can appreciate that it must be daunting for some women.
Your idea is fucking stupid, though, as it solves nothing.

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How exactly did you 'learn to handle yourself at a young age'? There's sometimes no handling yourself against a man that is bigger and more powerful than you.

whatisgoingonadviceplease · 19/08/2024 19:57

@nocoolnamesleft
My DH's female colleagues would feel the exact opposite of safe working a night shift in a dangerously understaffed male prison with only female colleagues (and not enough of them either). Which is exactly what the situation would be if my DH and his male colleagues weren't permitted to go to their jobs.

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 19:57

Op I hope you don't have a father, son , husband or brother. They are all awful and evil so hopefully you have no men in your life.

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 19/08/2024 19:58

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 19:53

Yes sorry if you've had bad experiences or know horrible men but there's no need to group all men in the same way.

So why aren't the nice men doing more?
The endless conflicts around the world aren't wars started by women. We still think of wars as good guys against bad guys, whilst the women and children on either side have no choice but to go along with whichever side they find themselves.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 19/08/2024 19:59

listsandbudgets · 19/08/2024 19:52

I'm much happier if I know my DD is out with a mixed group of friends.

I do not want my son tarnished eoth the "nasty" brush.

If you're that keen segregating the sexes OP then join a convent

You think Nuns are safe from male violence?

noworklifebalance · 19/08/2024 20:00

Crazycatlady79 · 19/08/2024 18:09

I've never gone out at night and felt afraid of the possible threat of male violence, as learnt to handle myself at a young age, but I can appreciate that it must be daunting for some women.
Your idea is fucking stupid, though, as it solves nothing.

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What is fucking appalling is that you had to learn to handle yourself at night at all - why is that even considered normal or ok?

Tonight37 · 19/08/2024 20:01

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

I’ve reported this thread for sex discrimination and hope it gets taken down.

x2boys · 19/08/2024 20:01

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 19/08/2024 19:59

You think Nuns are safe from male violence?

Tbf the nuns that taught me were pretty fucking violent themselves .

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 20:02

@Everyoneesleistheproblem what do you think the nice men should do about it?
I find that absolutely ridiculous that decent good men need to fight the battle for those rotten ones. What exactly do you think they should do? Provide some realistic example?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 19/08/2024 20:02

I don’t want my son, brothers & DH being assumed as abusers. Let’s just adopt a zero tolerance approach to dangerous males and rethink the justice system.