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To suggest a male curfew one night a week

786 replies

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

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BargingOnBy · 19/08/2024 19:09

MistyGreenAndBlue · 19/08/2024 19:05

My DD used to walk at night without fear too. Until she was attacked only a few metres from home.
It's not fear mongering. Women are at risk from violent men indoors and out! Calling our sensible precautions and vigilance fear mongering is not helpful.

Exactly. The likelihood of being attacked might be fairly low but the consequences are usually devastating and life-changing.

FrippEnos · 19/08/2024 19:09

5128gap · 19/08/2024 19:06

I guess that would be up to all the decent concerned and responsible men to organise for them, wouldn't it? Because women have their hands full enough as it is trying to use their experience to help younger women and girls. It's actually about time men stepped up to offer guidance to boys. Then maybe Andrew Tate wouldn't have found such a void to fill.

So that is a no then?

Of course if its left to the men then you are ok with them sorting out the content?

But then you run the risk of the Andrew Tate types getting in.

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 19:09

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 18:56

Luckily
This isn't happening as a matter of course anyway!

Most rape is by people known to the victim. They don't grab random women and drag them off to rape them.

It's just scaremongering

Scaremongering? This literally just happened in the city I live in. A woman was raped in the city centre on a walkway connecting a hotel and bar. By a complete stranger.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 19:10

MistyGreenAndBlue · 19/08/2024 19:05

My DD used to walk at night without fear too. Until she was attacked only a few metres from home.
It's not fear mongering. Women are at risk from violent men indoors and out! Calling our sensible precautions and vigilance fear mongering is not helpful.

It is fear mongering.

Telling girls to carry umbrellas and their keys between their fingers and not wear a ponytail and hide if a man happens to walk near by...

Women are at risk from violent men and women anywhere, at any time. Recent events have once again shown that even in the day there is risk.

FrippEnos · 19/08/2024 19:10

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 19:08

I'm also pretty sure that rapists, and certainly child rapists, are considered the lowest of the low in prisons

Brothers/fathers/uncles "paying a visit" to lads who've wronged their female relatives

Men who jump in, often risking their own lives, to protect others from male violence

It is a problem that men address.

So you are ok with men being violent against men?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 19:11

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 19:09

Scaremongering? This literally just happened in the city I live in. A woman was raped in the city centre on a walkway connecting a hotel and bar. By a complete stranger.

I didn't say it didn't happen
I said MOST happens elsewhere

The stats show that most risk is from those known. Encouraging people to be terrified in the street is scaremongering

FlowerWrath · 19/08/2024 19:11

The only person with a curfew should be you

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:11

Ironically a male curfew would probably see a huge reduction in male violence against males

x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:11

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 19:09

Scaremongering? This literally just happened in the city I live in. A woman was raped in the city centre on a walkway connecting a hotel and bar. By a complete stranger.

Of course stranger rapes happen but they are very rare as the Pp was pointing out.

Againname · 19/08/2024 19:12

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

One message it would send is DV is 'less serious' than stranger attack. Which is not true.

A large proportion of VAWG happens in homes and behind closed doors. In fact, I think, although I might be misremembering figures, women are at more risk of that than from stranger attack.

What do you suggest to tackle ongoing male violence?

For both DV and stranger attacks. Well-funded and effective public services:

Social care
Mental health services
DV services
Probation
CPS
Police
Substance issues services
More (social) housing
Non punitive benefits system
Job, education, and training opportunities.

That's what is needed for a safer and more cohesive society. Will it be done? I don't expect it will but it should be.

GoadyMcBigot · 19/08/2024 19:12

Mymanyellow · 19/08/2024 17:51

The men who are a risk to you and your daughters wouldn’t respect a curfew anyway.

Well I’m the mother of two sons (and no daughters) and I think the concept and discussion is needed

yes I know that NAMALT but ONLY men commit that kind of crime against women (stalking, raping, stabbing, abusing, murdering etc)

it should be all the NAMALTS that are leading the charge against the men that are. But they are not, it’s up to us women to raise the issue.

exaltedwombat · 19/08/2024 19:13

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:09

To their new job mending the roads which they had to be drafted into to make up for the shortfall of labour one night a week.

Want to work out exactly what you’re trying to say and have another go? :-)

BallerinaArm · 19/08/2024 19:14

Haven’t bother3d to RTfT but I would love this

FiddlyDiddlyDee · 19/08/2024 19:14

Newbutoldfather · 19/08/2024 18:59

How about if you changed ‘men’ to a particular ethnicity based on percentage convicted of violent crime? How would that thread go?

We have a really fundamental and, I believe, valid concept that everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty, as individuals.

Punishments due to belonging to a certain class or group are quite common in some parts of the world. I believe Hitler tried one based on his mistaken beliefs about people like me (I think curfews were involved in the beginning).

Even as a thought experiment, this is pretty vile.

I'm not sure what the difference is between this and any other form of hate speech is and I hope the people on here who are obviously radicalised are only representative of people hiding behind a screen and not the wider public.

DonnaDonna0 · 19/08/2024 19:14

😂😂😂 Is this just click bait?
What a ludicrous idea, it wouldn’t be followed by the very ones you need saved from, impossible to police and you might as well wander round with a big sign saying “take me, no one to stop you.”

JabbaTheBeachHut · 19/08/2024 19:15

exaltedwombat · 19/08/2024 19:13

Want to work out exactly what you’re trying to say and have another go? :-)

Why would she want to do that when her post was perfectly clear? 😳

Errors · 19/08/2024 19:15

I would like cars to be banned one day a week so I can head out without fear of being run over

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 19:17

noworklifebalance · 19/08/2024 17:59

Ha! I knew there would a string of NAMALT and the predictable “what about my son”
(and I say this as a mother of a lovely son, sister of a lovely brother and wife of a lovely husband).
Of course it is about all men.

Of course it is about all men.

Funny how sweeping generalisations are frowned upon. Except when it comes to men.

tuvamoodyson · 19/08/2024 19:17

ExtraOnions · 19/08/2024 17:58

Violent Criminals are mostly men, as are sexual criminals, drug dealers, gang members, thieves, dangerous drivers etc etc etc.

Men seem to be in no hurray to solve the problems caused by thier sex - all you get is a load of wet “It’s not all men” apologists.

Men need to own the behaviour of thier sex, and acknowledge that they are part of the problem.

“but my son’s not like that” .. in front of you maybe, get him with his mates, drunk, or worse .. then see how it is.

I think a male curfew would be blissful

But it isn’t all men! Were apologists because we disagree with men having a curfew??

pinkfleece · 19/08/2024 19:18

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:50

It isn't bait, actually. I'm serious. I'd like to walk at night without fear. For my DDs to go out without fear.

Something has to change. It would be a gesture and wake up call.

What do we do, nothing?

I walk all the time without fear.

FiddlyDiddlyDee · 19/08/2024 19:18

GoadyMcBigot · 19/08/2024 19:12

Well I’m the mother of two sons (and no daughters) and I think the concept and discussion is needed

yes I know that NAMALT but ONLY men commit that kind of crime against women (stalking, raping, stabbing, abusing, murdering etc)

it should be all the NAMALTS that are leading the charge against the men that are. But they are not, it’s up to us women to raise the issue.

just to clarify you're saying no woman has:

"committed that kind of crime against a woman (stalking, raping, stabbing, abusing, murdering etc)"

?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 19:18

BargingOnBy · 19/08/2024 19:09

Exactly. The likelihood of being attacked might be fairly low but the consequences are usually devastating and life-changing.

Just like the liklihood of being hit by a car is low but the consequences being life changing and devastating?

Or your house catching fire?

Or you slipping on ice?

Or playing sport?

Of we judge risk ONLY by the consequences then we wouldn't do anything

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 19:19

Errors · 19/08/2024 19:15

I would like cars to be banned one day a week so I can head out without fear of being run over

Which impacts all those disabled people who need to use their cars for work, leisure etc, and have no alternative. Nothing is without consequence.

FiddlyDiddlyDee · 19/08/2024 19:19

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 19:17

Of course it is about all men.

Funny how sweeping generalisations are frowned upon. Except when it comes to men.

Men aren't human apparently

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:20

Accident

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