Labour Corruption?

[Zebedee999]

Labour took donations from the unions pre-election and are now giving pay rises to those same union's members with limited or no negotiations. Is this corruption?

YABU = Not corruption
YANBU = Corruption of sorts

Tell me you know nothing about the history of the Labour party without telling me you know nothing about the history of the Labour party!

The unions have always been a HUGE part of the party and openly fund it - it's not secret, it's not been magically reviled post election.

As to settling the strikes - that's a good thing no? Paying people a decent wage for their work? I mean all this strike action started under the 'clap for the NHS while we party' party? They dodged the issue of COL and the post covid/Brexit impact on the NHS and refused to back down - yay for Labour I say

Labour has always been funded by the unions.

I don't justify corruption either @Zebedee999 But your assertion that the Labour Party is corrupt is simply not true.

As I said, you need to look up the meaning of corruption.

Have you considered investing in a dictionary? You seem very confused about what the word "corruption" means. And "triggered". I'm sure with the amount of money floating around Tufton St you can get the cost of it covered from petty cash.

I don't think you've read or understood the replies.

Trying to turn giving a pay rise to people in ordinary jobs as corruption is ridiculous. These jobs have been underpaid for years. They aren't going to suddenly have holidays in the Maldives and room for a fricking pony.
Corruption FFS.
Unions are great institutions and I'm a proud member.

@Zebedee999 forgot to mention that the Labour Party was founded by the trade union movement in 1900, who later formed an alliance with the cooperative movement. So the Labour Party was, (and sometimes still is) the voice of the unions and their workers.

Also in 1912 they called for full suffrage (women's right to vote) introduced the equal pay act amongst other women's rights legislation

Go educate yourself.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/now-sue-grays-son-is-in-the-firing-line/

interesting read

If you really think this is corruption, then you're simply revealing your ignorance. Or perhaps you're on a wind up. Or perhaps both? an ignorant, goady fucker!

Your simple question seems to have resulted in many people putting you straight with facts. Some justify what has happened because there were successful negotiations under Labour, unlike when we had a Tory government.

The hasty settlement with union donors has a slight whiff of sleaze, but you can't escape the fact that settlement of these disputes was a requirement, even if it means getting the money from pensioner's winter fuel allowance.

What really stinks and is straight out of the Tory sleaze playbook is:

1. Giving top civil service jobs to Labour donors (Ian Corfield at Treasury and Emily Middleton at DSIT)
2. Making first time MPs Parliamentary Private Secretaries (something not done for over 70 years) one of whom happens to be Sue Gray's son (Liam Conlon) when appointments are heavily influenced by Sue Gray.

Plus ça change.

Public sector is massively overpaid once you factor in their pensions.

Surely the unions would have got what they were asking for if it was corruption. Unless they are just really rubbish at being corrupt.

The Tories could have sorted this but they preferred to spend more money not bothering to negotiate than to negotiate and find a compromise. Although they did promise that they would be round the negotiating table ASAP if they win the election. Presumably forgetting they could have done that before the election.

If we are struggling to recruit and retain teachers and doctors then objectively they are not overpaid.

Ffs do you know anything about the establishment of the Labour Party ?????

What a load of shite

What everyone else said. Also, two of the biggest groups to be awarded pay rises and thereby have their pay disputes settled are teachers and doctors, and neither of their unions are affiliated to the Labour Party. I don't think you understand the concepts of corruption, trade unions, or anything at all related to this topic, OP.

Sssshhhh

This x a million.

Any news on Michelle Mone?

😂

Comedy at its finest. If public sector jobs are so desirable, why do we have a recruitment crisis?

A good pension is wonderful but it doesn’t pay the daily bills. You have to live long enough to claim a pension.

My dad’s friend was an oncologist, worked 40 years in the NHS. He missed so many family events due to working, he loved his job and dedicated his life to it. He died 3 years after retirement in the NHS cancer ward that he had fund raised for years to have built.

No . I am a labour supporter and don't feel remotely triggered . You just sound quite goady and tbh a bit thick as don't seem to understand the link between the Unions and the Labour Party.

Hasn’t it just. Truth hurts I suppose. YANBU

Or you could read some responses above.

I did thanks Zonder. Truth hurts eh.

Ah, so you read them but don't understand them @BionicBadger.