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To feel so upset about the government censorship?

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Utterlydisillusioned · 17/08/2024 20:12

This has just appeared in my news feed and I feel so upset and disillusioned. I was a labour voter, thinking we voted the bad guys out but I'm now really scared about what we've let in...what on earth have we done...? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/08/17/education-secretary-bridget-phillipson-private-school-tax-r/

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Bluepiano · 17/08/2024 21:17

safetyfreak · 17/08/2024 20:15

Yes, they do appear to be censoring free speech.

I voted in Labour but I will take my vote away, as will many others if they go to the extreme left.

Considering how far to the right Labour have gone under Keir Starmer, there is little chance of that happening.

Nadeed · 17/08/2024 21:18

God the elite really are not used to not getting their own way.

Prawncow · 17/08/2024 21:18

One of those many Telegraph reading Labour voters.

DevotedSisterBelovedCunt · 17/08/2024 21:18

rayofsunshine86 · 17/08/2024 21:13

Comments that are repeatedly reported get removed automatically, but I'm guessing these are deleted by administrators.

It's wild what's happened in the past month. A man near me was given a 2 year suspended sentence for drink driving and causing life altering injuries, but a bloke who posted something on Facebook got almost 3 years.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Are you referring to the man who encouraged people to burn down a building with people inside, arranged and publicised a time and place for it to happen, advised them on how to avoid detection, and then a crowd of people actually did turn up and try to burn the building down with people inside it?

CeruleanBelt · 17/08/2024 21:19

Isn't this just the epitome of what's wrong with society though? Some muppet has an opinion and they put it on Facebook and then they get upset that their comment is deleted?

Since when is leaving Facebook comments a valid methodology of challenging government policy?

nextdoorconundrum · 17/08/2024 21:19

Sorry but won't take ANYTHING the TORYGRAPH says as gospel.

I'm a civil servant from a true blue (still) Tory constituency... and would vote labour again ten thousand times .

Clarabella77 · 17/08/2024 21:19

coastingcoffee · 17/08/2024 21:05

@Clarabella77 that's literally what she's doing.

No her team is deleting comments on her OWN page.

We are all free to discuss the policy anywhere else.

blackpear · 17/08/2024 21:20

It’s her own FB page, so it’s not really censoring free speech. I was routinely blocked from Tory MPs’ pages for disagreeing with them. I’d find it better if she let criticism stand, but am not inclined to trust the Telegraph for a dispassionate account.

Clingfilm · 17/08/2024 21:20

Facebook is not a quality outlet for official PR. It's a free app that's riddled with bugs, bots and thick people.
I work in social media, I sensor comments, bots, general negativity. You'd be surprised how emboldened people become hiding behind a keyboard, things they'd never say face to face.

NAndJIsLockingDown · 17/08/2024 21:20

BeachParty · 17/08/2024 20:53

Same.

I hope you still feel the same way when a bloke in a frock is standing next to you in the changing rooms.

CeruleanBelt · 17/08/2024 21:21

coastingcoffee · 17/08/2024 20:16

She's removed my comments asking politely what reassurances she is giving to parents who cannot get their children placed into local schools.

I didn't vote Labour. You were warned. There will never be 6500 new teachers. It's all lies.

I don't think anyone thinks the 6500 new teachers is being wholly funded by this tax, do they?

But it's going to raise 1.8billion for the coffers that we didn't have before.

jellycatandkittens · 17/08/2024 21:21

NAndJIsLockingDown · 17/08/2024 20:16

Yep - they're curtailing free speech and denouncing those who didn't vote for them as "far-right thugs".

Who are they denouncing as "far right thugs"? By any chance is it those behaving like far right thugs?!
Twitter is quite unbelievable at the moment, claiming the end of free speech and that we're becoming like 1984 because people are being put in prison for writing "burn down the mosques" on Facebook.
I think we probably are fucked as a country, but it won't be the fault of Keir Starmer or the labour government.

scalt · 17/08/2024 21:22

Were the Conservatives champions of free speech? Nobody was allowed to so much as hint that lockdowns caused any damage at all.

Dibblydoodahdah · 17/08/2024 21:22

nextdoorconundrum · 17/08/2024 21:19

Sorry but won't take ANYTHING the TORYGRAPH says as gospel.

I'm a civil servant from a true blue (still) Tory constituency... and would vote labour again ten thousand times .

Well I’ve seen screenshots of many of the deleted comments.

BeachParty · 17/08/2024 21:22

NAndJIsLockingDown · 17/08/2024 21:20

I hope you still feel the same way when a bloke in a frock is standing next to you in the changing rooms.

🙄😂 Biscuit

DevotedSisterBelovedCunt · 17/08/2024 21:22

NAndJIsLockingDown · 17/08/2024 21:20

I hope you still feel the same way when a bloke in a frock is standing next to you in the changing rooms.

Thank goodness the government that was in charge until last month were so hot on preventing that.

Dibblydoodahdah · 17/08/2024 21:22

CeruleanBelt · 17/08/2024 21:21

I don't think anyone thinks the 6500 new teachers is being wholly funded by this tax, do they?

But it's going to raise 1.8billion for the coffers that we didn't have before.

No it’s not going to raise 1.8 billion.

Utterlydisillusioned · 17/08/2024 21:23

Anonymous54 · 17/08/2024 21:15

Get real! Even local councillors do this sort of thing. I don’t particularly approve either but it’s quite a stretch to then claim
this government is worse than the bloody Tories, who have left the country is the worst state since the 1940’s!
Female politicians get horribly trolled and are under significant threat, countering this on social media in this light is forgivable, if it’s even true. You don’t imagine that the Telegraph of all papers might have another agenda?
You all have very short memories !

Why is her being female even relevant? I'm female. I didn't see this article as any attack on gender equality? And noone is saying that this government is worse but they did claim to be better, more honest, more open. They are not. Female or not female. Please don't detail the topic

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BeachParty · 17/08/2024 21:24

jellycatandkittens · 17/08/2024 21:21

Who are they denouncing as "far right thugs"? By any chance is it those behaving like far right thugs?!
Twitter is quite unbelievable at the moment, claiming the end of free speech and that we're becoming like 1984 because people are being put in prison for writing "burn down the mosques" on Facebook.
I think we probably are fucked as a country, but it won't be the fault of Keir Starmer or the labour government.

Who are they denouncing as "far right thugs"? By any chance is it those behaving like far right thugs?!

This.

jellycatandkittens · 17/08/2024 21:24

rayofsunshine86 · 17/08/2024 21:13

Comments that are repeatedly reported get removed automatically, but I'm guessing these are deleted by administrators.

It's wild what's happened in the past month. A man near me was given a 2 year suspended sentence for drink driving and causing life altering injuries, but a bloke who posted something on Facebook got almost 3 years.

Absolutely ridiculous.

And what was that "something" that he posted on FB, then?

Dymaxion · 17/08/2024 21:24

I am sure I heard something on R4 today about the age people start voting Conservative has moved up to 63. There was a young Conservative bemoaning the fact that the current lot seem to be still pitching to the older voter whilst completely ignoring the concerns of the younger voter, especially in regards to housing, starting a family, childcare etc.
The problem with focusing on a fringe issue like public schools, is that the vast majority of the electorate don't use them, and believe that those who do are relatively well off, as in earn two incomes above minimum wage. I appreciate that there are those who's children have managed to secure a scholarship/bursary who are going to find it difficult when fee's go up again as they are apt to do, and tend to do every year if the truth be told ! I suppose Public schools could support those students by increasing the fee's for the parents who do pay the full amount ?

Prawncow · 17/08/2024 21:25

Don’t detail the delulu!

urbanbuddha · 17/08/2024 21:25

Seriously what’s Facebook got to do with free speech?

Utterlydisillusioned · 17/08/2024 21:25

Prawncow · 17/08/2024 21:18

One of those many Telegraph reading Labour voters.

I read all media actually as I'm in the media sector. I read The Telegraph, The Guardian, The Mail, The Express, The Sun. All of them. It's my job. This is why I know this article is not about nothing and they would never be able to publish it without hard evidence

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ilovesooty · 17/08/2024 21:25

NAndJIsLockingDown · 17/08/2024 21:20

I hope you still feel the same way when a bloke in a frock is standing next to you in the changing rooms.

Whereas the Tories did a lot to address that. Oh I forgot - the sainted Kemi was mulling.