JKR being uncharacteristically quiet

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Anyone else noticed since the news that JKR is being sued by Imane Khelif she's been very quiet, unless I'm mistaken she's hasn't tweeted at all in about a week.

and hasn't responded at all to the legal action being taken against her. This is very unlike her, I'm thinking she's been advised by her lawyers to keep quiet. Anyone else think she might have put her foot in it this time?

True. It's beginning to look like a pattern isn't it?

Not believing that people can change sex is a protected belief, as per the Forstater judgment. That's a Court decision. You don't get to discriminate against a WORIADS belief.

Are you talking about me or the poster on the other thread

Indeed!

‘Asigned female at birth’ is not always the same thing as ‘female’

As mentioned earlier, there is a prize if you can prove that JKR is transphobic.

www.thedistancemag.com/p/we-will-award-steve-wardlaw-1-million?r=uglk

What else do you possibly think Dr Georges Cazorla (from IKs medical advisory team) meant by “Imane is indeed a woman, despite her karyotype and testosterone level”.

Because the only logical conclusion apart from a male DSD, would be just a plain old male. But that doesn’t tally with the passport and algerias legal stance on trans, so… 🤷🏼‍♀️

The interpretation of the First Amendment is a complex issue and whether calling Imane Khelif a man or male is protected by the First Amendment may come down to whether such a statement can be considered defamation and/or harassment (which are not protected by freedom of speech in the US).

(Irrespective of what Kamala Harris' stance on "misgendering" might be if she is elected in November, to claim that she is on the side of compelled speech re: pronouns may lead some to think she believes "misgendering" should be legally or socially punished; as former prosecutor she would be well aware of how legally thorny that kind of proposal would be, and thus has not said anything to that effect.)

Back to the Khelif case -- Khelif's legal team might try to argue that Khelif is female in the eyes of the law and thus calling Khelif a man or male constitutes defamation and/or harassment if they are to litigate in the US.

"Misgendering", if the legal system finds Khelif to be "legally" female, is not a hate crime in the US -- the claim seems to have been filed in France, so if the investigation does go ahead we'll see how the French prosecutors would deal with it.

and to be fair, its also..erm...REALITY.
You know reality, that place where we all used to live.

Once again the rules shift when it becomes convenient to the gender critical argument. I thought the concept of birth sex not aligning with identity was one usually treated with derision, along with the suggestion men can have vaginas? Until you find someone you have a burning need to misgender then suddenly the rules change.

The poster on the other thread

Step into it, bitten more than she can chew? Really?

I'll offer you another idea to consider. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

I'd say that targeting Rowling is the best way how Imane can keep attention on themselves and lack of clarity about their sex status. If Imane wants to be sure everyone will know they are (potentially) male, suing JKR is definitely the way forward.

Ahh, does anyone else remember the good old days.

When violence against women and children was bad, genocide was bad, science and facts were good and being open minded was a virtue?

Anyone else remember that? how far we've come.

Nothing says progressive like smashing a woman's scull in.

IK & the other boxer both failed sex tests performed by accredited, respected professional laboratories. A well known and respected sports reporter has seen the results and reported that they unambiguously show both had XY chromosomes. IK’s own coach has said (see attached) that this prompted IK’s team to repeat the test at a highly reputable hospital in Paris which also showed ‘a problem’ with IK’s chromosomes and testosterone in the male range. IK is now having treatment to reduce testosterone to female levels which has caused significant muscle loss. There is only one DSD which causes this combination. Also, and nobody ever addresses this. IK and their team have not denied any of this.

So, that'll be a no, you don't have anything?
What an absolute shocker. I did not see that coming. At all 😂

And yet notably, as the original post pointed out, far from standing up for her beliefs and reiterating her point, JKR has gone noticably quiet on the subject

You see, comparing trans women to the Taliban is horribly transphobic. Even you must know that.

Taylor Swift is a solid supporter of trans rights. She’s not being attacked from the left for bigotry.

Most people dislike Moldemort because she is a transphobic bigot. She absolutely does not deserve the horrible threats prominent women get regardless of their views, but she can at least enjoy the support of prominent neo-Nazis, Vladimir Putin and Matt Walsh.

@Tandora is here to school everyon in what is right again I see😂

Well said @Rymeswithpunt

JKR has also been mysteriously silent about 14th century pottery - particularly the Tewksbury kiln

She has tweeted nothing that I've seen about a potential Dalek invasion

Nor has she said anything about the Defenestration of Prague in 1848

Terrible isn't it?

At the end of the day both Khelif and Lin could have challenged the IBA when it ruled them out of women's competitions in 2023 because they were men. They didn't. Khelif started an appeal then withdrew.

Given that we know of Caster Semenya's DSD details because of his appeal it seems likely that this was the reason. If Khelif were indeed a biological woman she would have been stupid not to appeal. Ditto Lin.

No of course it isn't their fault they have DSDs. However, as grown ass adults, it is certainly their fault that they choose to enter women's sporting competitions despite being male and having all the advantages of male puberty, male bodies etc etc.

How would we feel if an able bodied young man entered the paralympics and won? How would we feel if he injured Paralympic athletes on the way? Categories exist for a reason.

I think the thread kind of got away from us here 😅

Smashing a woman's skull in

She's a boxer.

It's fascinating how much misogyny there is in the arguments against Khelif - not least the multiple people who want to imply there's something suspiciously unwomanly about wanting to be a boxer at all.

Why not just come out and say it if you think woman shouldn't box?

Sporting competitors however are required to have evidence of sex. This is not new, it was the case when I was competing as a junior back in the dark ages - I had to have medical certs of fitness to compete including confirmation of sex. Its a major public event where the competition division is rightly based on sex where sex is a proven advantage - the commercial rewards for success are substantial.

Khelif's trainer was reported as making public the failure of the IBA sex tests - decisions which were not appealed by Kehlif's team. The boxer cannot help their condition or its effect on them but they are an adult and responisible for what they do whilst having a male sex advantage. Its been no secret in women's sport that since drug testing became more effective dodgy trainers seek out athletes with DSDs, often from developing countries - there is a lot of money in being a trainer/coach with Olympic successes behind you. Its abuse of people with DSDs.

The IOC have been too cowardly and dishonest to address women's safety in sport as confirmed by Starmer's chum Adams, hiding behind "documents" which they know well do not provide evidence of biological sex. I'd have been laughed out of competition if I'd tried to evidence sex with a document which doesn't physically confirm sex.

As for the OP - loving the notion that the brand new/NCd OP claims to be neutral whilst making snide comments about JKR's house and because they didn't see her comment about a completely separate issue. Yes totally believe this thread was started in good faith😂

I’ve given you everything you need - read her Twitter feed. I don’t want to play the gender critical “nothing is transphobic” game.

And, of course, you notably avoided my question.

Well, yeah, that too. But that seems to have passed a number of people by! 🙄

Uff.
That's exactly what the the part of my post about "not interrupting the enemy while he is making the mistake" covered - letting Imane& team to contradict themselves.

Edit: fixed autocorrect