To think Keir Starmer holds a lot of sway?

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Former Director of Public Prosecutions. Now PM.
Following the 'civil unrest' last week, several perpetrators have been not only arrested and jailed, but publicly named and shamed, the speed of which I have never seen before.
Our PM clearly knows the right people to get things rolling quickly.
This, combined with the anti racism protestors, gives me a glimmer of hope for the future. I feel in safe(ish) hands with Keir.AIBU?

Of course the government has done something - the government runs the country, the government coordinates action during crises. More specifically, the government accelerated the additional prison places (were originally scheduled for next month) - without those, the Police and courts would not have been able to take the action they have.

Yes, justice was swift after the 2011 riots as well, and sentences were also fairly harsh, to send a message.

It happens every few years here in NI.🙈

No examples of a magistrate and crown prison then? After all they are completely distinct things.

How do you expect them to be dealt with "similarly" if they're not rioting, looting and committing arson?

Why don't you take a wee look at what happened in the justice system during the 2011 riots @Otherstories2002? Or go even further back to the Drumcree riots in the 90s.

Then you will understand what is happening and why. Fill those gaps in your knowledge with facts. You might enjoy it.

Not impressed

You mean when the tories were slated for what Keir is being celebrated for?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/01/courts-failed-people-caught-up-in-uk-riots-in-2011-says-ex-chief-prosecutor

I mean what is happening. Swift arrests. Swift trials. Sentencing or remanding in custody for offenders and suspects.

It's the way the UK has dealt with widespread/prolonged rioting for decades. It is not new.

Why don't you come right out with it and say you support the rioters? It's really the only explanation as to why you keep ignoring all the very reasonable & informative challenges to your faux outrage.

Maybe it's different when you already have a record.

Of those arrested, around 70% had previous convictions including weapon possession, violence and drugs offences, police said.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/metropolitan-police-mark-rowley-whitehall-police-london-b2593166.html?callback=in&code=MDLIZGNMMDGTMWYWNY0ZNDUWLTHKMMMTMGJKMZQ1MTBINGQX&state=6a1187d384d74e19abdda6299c795d64

Doesn’t mean it’s right.

But whether it is or not it’s certainly not an example of brilliance where Keir is concerned.

Odd leap. I definitely do not support the rioters at all. But I also don’t think Keir was anything to do with the reason it’s died down. They run out of steam eventually. Plus look what happened in Brighton.

It’s more than possible to think Keir is useless and be disgusted in the rioters.

Also I think you were going to add some facts to your taking the piss out of me and stating that magistrate and crown entirely separate with no cross over of prisons, policing etc. examples of prisons seems the easiest way to put me in my box. I have asked nicely 3 times now.

All hail the dear Leader!

The 2011 riots didn’t have all the footage (as we’ve all seen of the rioting) captured by smartphone and published all over SM like we have now. So convictions can be quicker (and easier to get) because of all those videos and pictures.

What lessons do you think weren't learned from the 2011 riots? How do you think things could have been improved this time?

The actual link you posted even splits it. British - drunk, American - annoyed. In England it means drunk.

Oh, is @Otherstories2002 not from here? It would explain a lot.

Or @Otherstories2002 is literally uk pissed. That might explain the nonsensical posts!

it’s called language evolving. You don’t have to be American to use American sayings. 🙄

Still not going to give me examples of prisons then?

Still not going to accept the very clear and factual explanations you have been provided with?

This is a good start. It’s the first real challenge he’s had to act on that wasn’t planned or known when they took power. You can’t blame him for historical cases .

Wow! Some people do read some crap online and seem to have no ability for rational thought.

Two tier policing isn’t a thing. If you read widely (outside social media bubbles and the tabloids) you’ll see that there have been arrests in the counter protests for inciting hatred too- I clueing a former Labour councillor who has been suspended from the party.

You would also know that these cats track trials are because of guilty pleas- the not guilty pleas will take a lot longer. If a defendant pleads not guilty then there has to be a trial with all the related evidence gathering and paperwork. The backlog is made up of these types of trials.

You’re also be able to rationalise that this was a national emergency and therefore took priority as part of the effort to stop the riots spreading.

Honestly, it’s crystal clear of you take your social media specs off.

Assaulting a member of the police should result in a jail sentence for any individual, but it doesn’t. How can that be?