To think Keir Starmer holds a lot of sway?

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Former Director of Public Prosecutions. Now PM.
Following the 'civil unrest' last week, several perpetrators have been not only arrested and jailed, but publicly named and shamed, the speed of which I have never seen before.
Our PM clearly knows the right people to get things rolling quickly.
This, combined with the anti racism protestors, gives me a glimmer of hope for the future. I feel in safe(ish) hands with Keir.AIBU?

He is.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/08/labour-pledges-80-new-courts-in-bid-to-tackle-backlog-crisis#:~:text=Labour%20leader%20Keir%20Starmer%20has,his%20%E2%80%9Cmissions%E2%80%9D%20for%20government.

I’ve developed a massive crush on him 😳 Wouldn’t admit that IRL.

The speed is linked to guilty pleas. The defendants are not choosing to go to trial and therefore can be dealt with quickly (and receive a reduced sentence for doing so).

And of course the justice system want to discourage rioters from repeat offences and to dissuade others from rioting.

@MarisCapri I think 500(?) prison places have been found but I imagine before investigations have concluded that numbers will exceed that.

Each to their own 😁

Can you imagine how vanilla it would be.

Isn’t this the bullocks that in part caused the riots. Where has this idea of two tier policing come from? What’s the actual evidence?

I too am looking forward to the specialist rape courts planned by PM Starmer. I hope the rioters haven't delayed them.

He just seems so calm and together and wise. A proper grown up.

It's standard practice for ongoing rioting.

The rape trial delays are terrible, and badly need fixing, but even if/when they're brought down to reasonable time frames, these kind of public order crises will still be prioritised for obvious reasons.

You know exactly the bonkers right wing rabbit holes people are getting their opinions from when they parrot the 'two tier Kier' trope. Not even the Mail/Express/Sun/Torygraph are pushing that.

They ignore anything that doesn't fit - like the ex Labour councillor that's been charged with incitement.

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints

"Is that not racist? You can't decide where someone's politics lie based on their name"

Fair point but you can sometimes say where someone's politics lie by reading what they have been charged with:

news.sky.com/story/the-men-who-have-been-jailed-for-rioting-so-far-13193109

I say sometimes because a number of people that have been prosecuted have been for simple theft (Guy Sullivan, 43) or for attacking police officers (Derek Drummond,) and it is unclear where their politics lie.

@HonestMistake

"The rape trial delays are terrible, and badly need fixing, but even if/when they're brought down to reasonable time frames, these kind of public order crises will still be prioritised for obvious reasons."

Yes and the obvious reason is that it politically benefits the Government to be seen to be doing something rather than rape cases that don't.

I would prefer justice to be handed out on based on either when the crime took place or the seriousness of the crime.

So I struggle to see why Guy Sullivan, 43 who was sentenced to 16 months for violent disorder and burglary at a Tesco's gets priority in prosecution over a rape case.

No, it's because it's an ongoing crisis and a message needs to be sent immediately to stop anyone who's thinking about going out to do the same tonight.

Rape cases are immensely serious, and the current multi-year delays are a scandal and a blot on the face of British justice and women's rights, but there's not the same need to get them processed within hours rather than weeks.

Violent disorder and civil unrest has to be tackled at high speed to deter wider rioting.

In addition you can't prosecute all crimes on the same timescales because of the varied needs for evidence, statements, investigation etc.

Not excusing the increased delays in rape prosecutions we have seen in recent years, but they are entirely different types of cases.

Yes and the obvious reason is that it politically benefits the Government to be seen to be doing something rather than rape cases that don't.

No, the obvious reason is to stop a public disorder emergency. It's like medical triage for law and order. Learn about your laws and history instead of spouting nonsense.

Saggytoot · Today 19:02
Dosomethingdifferent · Today 19:00
I’ve developed a massive crush on him 😳 Wouldn’t admit that IRL.

Can you imagine how vanilla it would be

The (rather gorgeous) Lady Victoria always looks happy.

I agree, I live in a part of the UK where I wasn't able to vote for Labour. He comes across as being a 'bit boring' but he does seem to be able to get things done unlike the last lot. Can you image Boris bumbling his way through the current crisis!

I’m frankly pissed. The entire judicial system is back logged with victims of crime waiting years.

Something impacted Keir and bang. Fast tracks. Just another privileged white man doing things for himself.

Probably fast tracked to try and put an end to casuals turning out to smash the police. All this full force bollocks seeing people locked up for daft sentences when any other time they'd just get a slapped wrist.

Is it? OK, I apologise. I am simply making a suggestion based on the list of charges. They are the only people with affray charges as opposed to GBH and robbery.

Otherstories2002 · Today 19:33
I’m frankly pissed. The entire judicial system is back logged with victims of crime waiting years.
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Something impacted Keir and bang. Fast tracks. Just another privileged white man doing things for himself.

It was a national emergency. A strong message had to be put out, fast.

My guess is that there's a lot of women of colour who are really quite keen to have a lid put on these riots ASAP.

If he hadn’t I imagine we’d be seeing far worse stories in the news. I think you are being a bit over cynical

The riots impacted the public. The public and the police were the people in danger, not the PM.

I am impressed at the speed of these convictions. I now hope that he will deal similarly with the anti-Semites that show up at the Palestine protests.

Racism and calls for violence against Jewish people is also abhorrent and should be dealt with.