To think having dogs in Saltdean lido is utterly disgusting?

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They let dogs into the lido with people on weekends 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

https://www.saltdeanlido.co.uk/dogtember

What a great idea. My dog is not a swimmer (greyhound), but plenty of dogs are and love stuff like this.

I see OP is just trying to rile people up though. It is not like random dogs will be jumping in whist your kids are in there. It is a bookable event and takes place before the pool is drained and cleaned.

All this anger over nothing.

I know! Saltdean Lido also invites all the local cows in each lunchtime, and then people go and swim in there after!!!!!

Are you familiar with a RAM?
The risks I am particularly concerned about would fall under the high severity, low probability category.

The usual approach by lidos has been to accept the risk and transfer it to the dog owners by making them responsible by accepting liability in lieu of the lido.
It is a roll of the dice each time. Eventually the luck will run out.

There will be an owner with a dangerously out of control dog or a serious illness will affect more than a handful of owners causing an investigation.

It’s also not a recommended measure to transfer risk for that category of risk to the public to mitigate. Especially when dog owners aren’t known for being more responsible than average.

Doesn’t make it ethical to knowingly put dog owners at risk so you can get your hands on their money. Charities should be ethical.

That looks brilliant

I love this thread. There are properly bonkers posts on it, no grips to be had anywhere, it's about a minor civic matter so not in any way depressing or scary... just painfully, beautifully English. This whole thread could be a sitcom argument. Dad's Army for the 21st century.

Mumsnet, I love you so. You have put a spring in my step today.

Though I would love it more if someone located a parking concern. Or queues? But mostly parking.

I have not said that the lido could make £250k from kayak lessons- that is bullshit twisting of my actual suggestion

If they really do make £250k from these 8 days, then yes, that is what they would need to be looking at from other activities in order to do right by the Lido’s overall finances.

Is it really that much that they make? If so, I can see why they stick with it!

Not an issue is it given it's drained and cleaned
But then I swim in a reservoir and a river, often with dogs there so...

I’ve now refreshed the page and seen that the amazingly high £250k is over 6 years. So averaged out, that’s £41k a year (probably less when the event was new, more now)

8 bookable dates - around £5k a day; 5 sessions a day £1k per session

Much more plausible!

Are there enough local kayaking clubs and lifeguard training organisations to buy the same number of sessions? I’m not local, so have no idea what the demand would be

*Are you familiar with a RAM?
The risks I am particularly concerned about would fall under the high severity, low probability category.

The usual approach by lidos has been to accept the risk and transfer it to the dog owners by making them responsible by accepting liability in lieu of the lido.
It is a roll of the dice each time. Eventually the luck will run out.

There will be an owner with a dangerously out of control dog or a serious illness will affect more than a handful of owners causing an investigation.

It’s also not a recommended measure to transfer risk for that category of risk to the public to mitigate. Especially when dog owners aren’t known for being more responsible than average.

Doesn’t make it ethical to knowingly put dog owners at risk so you can get your hands on their money. Charities should be ethical.*

I presume you're writing to your MP about all these Lidos.

Have you ever watched a dog decide where to shit? They aint gonna be doing it in a pool 😂

I don't know... my own dog has had a shit in the sea.. but the water was only up to her ankles.

People are happy to be in the same body of water with babies in swim nappies, and older kids (and probably adults) who just pee in the pool. Swimming and putting their face in the water. People swim and put their face in the water in rivers and the sea, which are not filtered and consisting of chemicals.
It looks like people are just sitting/standing in the water with their dogs during these sessions.

It's an out door pool that isn't that busy in September. I guess it's a way to bring in a bit of money after the main season has passed before it shuts for the winter.

Where I live a floating bouncy castle/ adventure playground affair is open in the dubious waters of the bay. It is heaving. And very popular.

And similarly you sign a liability waiver before entering.

Similarily trampoline parks, quasar zones, adventure play parks etc etc .

But keep on about dog swims.

Write to your MP! These Lidos "rolling the dice "!

I still think you've just got the hump because kyaks.

@LoremIpsumCici

He lives the life he knows he deserves…..he has us well trained to meet his many needs😂

As far as I am concerned they can have elephants swimming in there if it keeps the Lido running

If I remember correctly it was closed for some time and needed a lot to get it up and running.

*As far as I am concerned they can have elephants swimming in there if it keeps the Lido running

If I remember correctly it was closed for some time and needed a lot to get it up and running.*

Same with the one I visit in Penzance.

Bit misleading though...

The infection rate of C. canimorsus is between 0.5 and 0.67 cases per million ...

Toxaocara canis - those worms need to hatch from eggs that have sat at a constant temperature and humidity for several days. Thats hard to achieve even when the eggs are sitting in a turd on the ground... it isn't going to happen in a Lido. You would typically need to consume (yes, consume) quite a quantity of larva laden poo to get an infection and whilst it is in theory possible to pick it up from the saliva of a dog who has VERY recently eaten some old, larvae laden poo... it is vanishingly unlikely.

The reality is, the actual risks of picking something nasty up from a swimming pool come from the other humans using it.

These dog swims (and several Lidos do them) are end of season events before pools close for a full clean out, not general swims where non-dog owners would attend.

More blind hysteria than bit misleading but thanks @WiddlinDiddlin

Love a bit of plain common sense.

It’s quite interesting that they drain and refill it so often. Many pools are drained much less frequently.

It sounds like once per year?
Not unreasonable at all.

My mum used to work in a leisure centre, and she took photos of a pool that had been emptied. Was very unsettling.

In what sense?

Not my idea of fun, but I used to swim in the river with my dog, and it was lovely, difference was I'd swim with Ddog on the down stream side of me!

What breaches? Genuinely curious. It's a private event that you can't attend without a ticket, so, not a 'public' swimming session. I'm not sure what the rules are. Are you?

Ignore them. Probably coming from the same place as the so called "hygiene breaches" for allowing dogs in cafes.