Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

Anyone who beat people up because they are "not white", who demand that people who were born and bred in this country go home because they are not white - I hope they face the full force of the law.

I guess some people assume that "not white" = Muslim and not born here and taking "our jobs"

We live in a fairly affluent, middle class part of the country and even here I can see there’s a problem with illegal immigration. Hotels tucked away stuffed with migrants and horror stories from friends about their teenagers being harassed and followed by male migrants when they have walked home from school past one of these migrant hotels.

Some police and crime commissioner said we are treating the symptoms not the cause by arresting these protesters. I totally agree but even Now idiots are trying to shut down debate and get her fired.

Yes the -violent protesters should be arrested but until the pm stands up and says what he’s going to do to tackle illegal immigration and protect the young women of this country who are suffering because of this - and I’m not talking about the recent attack I’m talking about the daily harassment- he just comes across as clueless and lacking in leadership skills and the ability to see what’s really wrong.

The Schrödingers immigrant. ‘Taking ar jobs whilst getting ar benefits.’

@Leniriefenstahl

Did I?

What worries me about all this rhetoric around immigration is that it's pretty similar to what we heard prior to and during the Brexit referendum.

Remember Farage's famous "breaking point" poster? The people pictured in that poster were almost all dark skinned, and didn't resemble the kind of people who came to the UK from EU countries in any way.

Leaving the EU has obviously had zero impact on illegal immigration, because everyone who came to the UK from the EU was in the UK legally. Now free movement has ended, people from Germany and Spain and Romania are not getting on boats to travel to the UK illegally. Why would they? They already live in the EU, they have no need to. This was entirely foreseeable.

The only impact that leaving the EU could possibly have on stopping the kind of people Farage is now whipping up fear about is if we withdrew from the European Convention on Human Rights. Even the Tories made no serious move towards doing that in the 8 years since Brexit, and Labour certainly will not do it.

So what's the objective, for Farage? What's the ultimate goal here? Is it about money? It is about power? Is he just a troublemaker who wants to cause unrest? Is he doing all of this because he's on Putin's payroll? If he is, there will be no evidence of that which is accessible to the UK authorities. It'll all be funnelled through top secret bank accounts in Switzerland and shell companies in the Cayman Islands.

But Farage is nearly 70. If he's doing it for money then surely at some point he'll want to retire and spend the rest of his days eating caviar off a lap dancer's breasts for breakfast (or whatever floats his boat). He's too old to be the next Hitler.

I'm struggling to make sense of the end game.

But you have to be thick and brainwashed to equate setting fire to buildings and looting from Lush with justice for those little girls who were murdered.

How will this solve anything?

It's not "people coming over here" that are the problem. It's the ones who are here already. They're certainly the ones I find terrifying.

And just to add, I deal with the public, both with refugees and indigenous people. The ones that cause trouble are never the refugees.

Women and girls are targeted and harassed daily by white British men too and nothing gets done. I would love to have protests against male violence against women, I would love for women to be heard and for the government to do something about rampant misogyny but the blokes out there this weekend shouting racist abuse and setting fire to everything don't give a shit about women and girls. Hatred of women is alive and well across cultures and skin colours and we've got plenty of home-grown rapists and creeps and harassers. Probably a lot of them were out there this weekend.

Most migrants are legal.

Exactly!!

And how these stupid rioting thugs (who have no idea what they are rioting about) think burning down a Community Library and a Citizens Advice that doubles as a food bank... helps their 'cause' god alone knows.
They are damaging the people they supposedly care about.

"We're doing it for the kiddies" .....yeah right

They're clearly in the minority full stop. Had they not been then there would have been thousands of people in each town and city causing mayhem, instead of which most people have just wanted to get on with their lives peacefully and not use a tragic set of murders to start having a go at Muslim people and refugees.

As for the attack on Starmer - the man has been in charge for a matter of weeks - maybe he will turn out to be the worst prime minister ever but given the extremely low bar we have set over the last 14 years, I highly doubt it.

Farage is great at self promotion and self aggrandising but I'm certainly glad that he's not my MP.

He won’t stand up and say what he will do though for fear of being branded a racist. His desire to remain politically correct means he’s going to fan the flames and oversee Britain decending into anarchy. It’s ironic as he is alienating his core voters. I’m not sure how long he’s going to last in power.

They wait in hotels because they're not allowed to claim benefits or work until they've been processed. Once given leave to remain, they do become useful by working and paying taxes.

I don't live in the Rotherham constituency. It is a bit of a white bubble where I live, but Rotherham isn't far away and I have friends who live there.

Clearly you have a view on what he should do.

What should he do?

This, exactly. Come down on them harsh. Why should Starmer speak soft kind words to them while POC especially WOMEN in headscarves walk around now feeling under extreme threat of being assaulted or abused on public transport, near mosques and the streets?

There are Asian men organising as we speak to make sure their women are not walking the streets alone because they are terrified. And not just Muslims anyone who is brown or even black. These racists were shown to beat up what looked like a black British guy from Manchester. Most don’t give a crap where you were born or how you get in.

That video from Hull where they shouted it’s P—— (insert racist slur)in the car! and then rushed over to attack the people in the car, you think they were going to check the persons passport or hear they had a British accent and then say aw you’re alright mate?

Yes the -violent protesters should be arrested but until the pm stands up and says what he’s going to do to tackle illegal immigration and protect the young women of this country who are suffering because of this - and I’m not talking about the recent attack I’m talking about the daily harassment- he just comes across as clueless and lacking in leadership skills and the ability to see what’s really wrong

What did Johnson, Truss and Sunak do? 14 years of Tories and they did
Nothing except chant Rwanda Rwanda

Taking about unfettered immigration from cultures different to ours is the language used by by folk very much in favour of Brexit. It isn’t ‘unfettered’.

It's the power and it's a game to him. He was apparently a contrarian who enjoyed baiting left wing teachers even at school.

...and how exactly would you stop men or anyone else crossing the channel? and if they aren't put in hotels etc where would you place them?

Sink the dinghies? tow them back to France?

oh and plenty of women and children cross the channel too.

Starmer has incited nothing, he is trying to address the lack of Police numbers, court places and the division caused by the previous Govt.

I'm watching 10 or 12 Police officers, trying to control a mob of at least 100 men armed with bricks etc etc the Police are being driven back....

The violence is continuing because the Police cannot cope and will continue to do so until the authorities have the means to deal with the mobs instead of "containment"

Its basic discipline.

I live close to one and we've not had any issues at all. Not from the refugees, or from people protesting over it

I'm hoping that MNHQ will pass on the names of posters on MN that have been inciting racial hatred to the police, so that they can assist with the police investigations into the online activity that is behind these riots.

There should be zero tolerance, and the fact that this is an anonymous forum need not mean that people can't be tracked down.

Don't be silly. The day you tell rioters that you'll listen to them is the day that every aggrieved group in the uk starts rioting.

I grew up in Hemsworth and have lots of family in former mining communities near there. I’m certain non of them vote for labour anymore. Massive volte face right I suspect going off Facebook posts.

He should introduce a decent points system where we bring in the skills we need for any labour shortages and vastly reduce the number of unskilled workers, along with turning back illegals. They can stop in France which is a safe country or numerous others but don’t. That needs to stop.